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Nov 6, 2013 8:10 PM in response to applejedi1by PeterBreis0807,★HelpfulGo to the App Store and give Pages 5 one star and say why so both new users and Apple get the message.
Peter
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Nov 6, 2013 10:03 PM in response to applejedi1by enteecee,Yeah, functionality has been gutted.
Pages 4 is still in an iWork folder within your Applications folder. You can use that to get work done.
First, if you don't have a backup of the files you were working with, use "Export as.. Pages 4.3" to make the file compatible with the odler version.
And, yeah- it's appalling. Please also let Apple know at:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/pages.html
That's where they're really listening, though App Store reviews are good, too.
On the upsdie, they do seem to know that this is NOT good, and has affected users.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6049?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
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Nov 8, 2013 7:39 PM in response to applejedi1by VikingOSX,According to Apple, Pages v5 is a full rewrite. It isn't a case of Apple removing features. They simply haven't been engineered into the Application yet. Apple has conceded this, and have stated in a press release that missing and new functionality will be restored through application updates.
Either use Pages ’09 v4.3, if you already have it, or another available DTP solution. Outside of Apple, there is no telling how long it will take them to update Pages v5 to usable features and functionality.
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Nov 8, 2013 9:21 PM in response to VikingOSXby PeterBreis0807,I don't think even Apple knows when, or if.
They'll devote whatever resources they have for as long and on whatever occassions Apple spares them.
Given the iWork Apps no longer earn income for Apple, we shall see at what point Apple loses interest.
Peter
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Nov 9, 2013 6:37 AM in response to PeterBreis0807by VikingOSX,So, in other words, it rates less than an Apple “hobby.”
The true paradox is that even if Apple focused the resources and made Pages v5+ into a functionally excellent product, it would likely force a collateral resource increase mirroring the new features into IOS Pages. Wag the dog.
Have a relaxing weekend, Peter.
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Nov 9, 2013 7:56 AM in response to PeterBreis0807by applejedi1,I put a critique and a one star rating in. Viking - I've been around the game a long time. If you re-engineer the same product, you keep the feature set and expand upon it. You don't gut it like a fish and then stick parts back in. Disaffecting users is not a wise idea, and if it's that radically different of a product, you phase out Pages and put out something new so there is an expectation level reset. This is Apple 101 and it's amazing to watch the company's common sense unwravel again. I was around for the 1990s version after they let Mr. Jobs go, and it was not pretty. The product lacks cohesive vision, and is back in the hands of engineers bickering over nuance without seeing the forest for the trees.
In that department, this product is very much a profit center for Apple, even if it doesn't make them a nickel, and at least Jobs knew that. When you provide a powerful, cheap easy tool to get core functional work done using the machine, whether it's a PowerBook or an iPad or your iPhone, you are selling the HARDWARE, not the software. If you want to be at the mercy of Microsoft which held Word and Excel over Apple's corporate head like the sword of Damocles for the longest while, then you hamstring the hardware side of the company.
That is why gaffes like these are starting to become increasingly worrisome.
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Nov 9, 2013 8:01 AM in response to applejedi1by PeterBreis0807,Agreed. With bells on!
What exactly is the point of buying a Mac now?
You enjoy the prospect of having files rendered unusable and productivity progressively stripped away?
Peter