Palatino superscript doesn't work right

I have the same problem. Since installing Mavericks, Word 2011 renders both superscripts and subscripts disproportionately small. For example:

The problem is limited to Word, Palatino, fonts 15 and smaller. If I log out and log in as a different user I cannot reproduce the problem. Trashing the Office Font Cache (buried in ~/Library/Application Support) does not fix the problem. Using Font Book to enable both the old font (/Library/Fonts/Palatino, 2007 v3.8) and the new font (/System/Library/Fonts/Palatino, 2013 v9.0d1e1) makes the problem go away, but triggers caution symbols in Font Book (duplicate fonts) and creates new problems in other apps. For the time being, I'm going to live with the problem in other apps (e.g. arrows rendered as boxes in iTunes), at least until I hit serious problems.

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011), OS X Mavericks (10.9)

I am having the same problem. Haven't done any serious writing since installing Mavericks so this just came up. Bummer.

I have this same problem and it is driving me to distraction! I am a professional editor and edit *everything* in Palatino because it's so easy to read. I have hundreds of styles using this font set up over dozens of templates for my various projects and clients, and it is a nightmare to change everything over to a font I don't like nearly as much.

Please fix this bug.

It appears to be a flaw with the Mavericks installed version of Palatino. Two fixes:

1) Remove the Palatino font from the /System/Library/Fonts/ folder and use the same named font installed by Mountain Lion or Lion. Both work correctly.

2) Use Palatino Linotype, which is supplied with Office 2011, which also works correctly.

Okay, found the real problem. The Palatino font supplied with Mavericks is junk. I was testing every version of the Palatino font I had (Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Office 2011).

To see how Palatino acted in other apps, not just Word, I also tested all of them in InDesign CC. With the Mavericks version, Palatino Regular is broken. It shows in your font manager as having all four typefaces (regular, bold, italic, bold italic), and Word also shows all four. But InDesign must be able to see that the regular font in the .ttc TrueType Collection is no good and only shows bold, italic and bold italic as available choices.

End result. Delete the Mavericks installed version and use a different Palatino font.

Thank you for the help. I just pulled out the Mavericks version of Palatino, and after som effort, found the Mountain Lion version and replaced it in /System/Library/Fonts. My superscript Palatino is working in Word again.

For anyone else who has this problem, if you have the Mountain Lion installer downloaded from the App Store, you can use a shareware program called Pacifist to open the installer file and extract just the file, "Palatino.ttc" from the Mountain Lion installer.

I extracted it to a folder on my desktop, then used the terminal to move the Mavericks version out and put the Mountain Lion version in. The Finder doesn't want to let you take files out of /System/ so you have to use "sudo mv /System/Libraray/Fonts/Palatino.ttc ~/Desktop/WhateverFolder" to get it out.

Now that I think of it, I suppose I could have used Font Book to do the same. I just didn't want to delete the Mavericks version in case it is needed for some other purpose in the future.

I was having the same problem. I believe the issues arises because old, incompatible fonts are brought along when upgrading to Mavericks. Here is a fix that seems to be working. Open Font Book. Under File, select Restore Standard Fonts... This will kick out the duplicates, non-standards, poorly behaving, etc. This fixed Palatino subscripts/superscripts for me. I don't have much in the way of non-standards, so I haven't encountered any problems, yet. I believe all fonts removed are place in ~/Library/Fonts (Removed), so nothing is lost.

No guarantees -- try at your own risk.

HTH

Restore Standard Fonts worked because it must have kicked out the Mavericks version of the font.

I did my testing on both my normal Mavericks install where I have all of my daily use apps, and a separate partition that was erased, and then installed Mavericks to fresh. The bad font is from Mavericks itself. Replace Palatino with any older version and the problem is solved.

I think folks are looking for a solution. Do you agree that Restore Standard Fonts... works, with the capability of reinstalling special fonts by bringing them back from the ~/Library/Fonts (Removed) folder? Yes? No? If No, would be good to know now so that font options aren't wrecked. The other solutions seem more complicated, especially if one does not have access to a previous font file for Palatino.

I think folks are looking for a solution.

And I have given one. The Palatino font supplied with Mavericks is no good. The only fix is to replace it with an older version. If you don't have one, you can't fix it.

Do you agree that Restore Standard Fonts...works ... Yes? No?

No. That option only attempts to remove fonts from the System and root Library folders that are included with OS X. It doesn't give you an option to restore OS X supplied fonts that are missing.

I have to presume you installed Mavericks over Mountain Lion. In Mavericks, Palatino is installed to the /System/Library/Fonts/ folder. In ML, that same (correctly working) font is installed to the /Library/Fonts/ folder.

Presuming this scenario is correct, the working version of Palatino in the /Library/Fonts/ folder was already active. When resolving conflicts in Font Book, the active font is always the one left active. Which would mean it removed the broken, Mavericks installed version.

As noted above, I fully tested and have proven the Mavericks version of Palatino is bad. I have multiple versions of this font. They are from:

OS 9

MS Office 2011

Lion

Mountain Lion

Mavericks

Adobe Type 1 PostScript

Adobe OpenType PostScript

I used Suitcase Fusion to activate one version at a time. Testing in Word, InDesign and other apps, they all behaved as expected until using the Mavericks supplied version.

I have to presume you installed Mavericks over Mountain Lion. In Mavericks, Palatino is installed to the /System/Library/Fonts/ folder. In ML, that same (correctly working) font is installed to the /Library/Fonts/ folder.

This is helpful. Thank you.

Typo in my previous post.

That option only attempts to remove fonts from the System and root Library folders that are included with OS X.

Should be

That option only attempts to remove fonts from the System and root Library folders that are not included with OS X.

Kurt Lang's solution to use Palatino Linotype is an incredibly easy solution. Just go to Applications > Font Book and make sure it's turned on.

Thank you , Kurt. It's a lifesaver.

Just to clarify tester1781's post for others, Palatino Linotype is the version supplied with Microsoft Office 2011.

The OS X supplied version of Palatino in 10.9.2 is also no good. There was no change to the date, size or anything else compared to 10.9.0 or 10.9.1, so it wasn't much of a surprise.