IIe card in a LC/Performa 575 computer

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IIe card in a LC/Performa 575 computer

Hi,

I just read this article in Apple database:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=8458

Is there a way to make a 575 uses the IIe card and the COMM slot (with Ethernet) work together, or it is really incompatible all the way?

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PB 12" 1.33 768meg RAM, Beige G3 266 768meg, Mac OS X (10.4.6), iLife 06

Posted on Jul 9, 2006 5:09 PM

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Answer 1

Jul 9, 2006 7:30 PM in response to Steve-Mac-

Steve@Mac,

Sorry, only one card works at a time. What is your destination for the ethernet? Could you work around that by using AppleTalk?

Ji˜m

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Steve-Mac- Author

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Jul 9, 2006 7:48 PM in response to Appaloosa mac man

You mean that only one of the slots are working at a time in this system, or that simply the IIe PDS card cannot work with an Ethernet Adaptor?

In fact, as for now, I'm looking to buy an old Mac that could run the IIe card and still get ethernet for Internet or file exchange. So, that was looking as a good candidate, but it look to be doomed...

Does upgrading the CPu to a real 68040 could help? In other world, is it the 68LC040 that is the problem? Or it is simply a hardware limitation?

Thanks

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Jul 9, 2006 11:03 PM in response to Steve-Mac-

Steve@Mac,

My son runs IIe emulation on his G5. Do you have to use the card to run your software?

Tomorrow I can look at a dozen of those models and see if some options come to mind. The LC was meant to be a low cost computer and multi tasking was not part of the design.

Jim

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Denis Eddy

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Jul 10, 2006 6:24 AM in response to Steve-Mac-

Steve@Mac
Although the original Apple IIe Card Owner's Guide (030-4562-A) was all about the Mac LC and System 6.0.8, it became clear in due course that the card had wider support than that. Your link lists the possibilities. There are, however, caveats to consider when choosing a machine from that list. There are two at the foot of the Table in article 8458, one of which Jim cited to you.

You need to be aware that there are other hindrances than obligatory 32-bit operation in the 'host' computer. The LC 575 restriction is a hardware limitation. The Apple IIe Card is a 65C02 Apple IIe within a Mac, working analogously to a DOS compatibility card in a Mac. You will be best off with a 68030 LC machine: any one in the first seven listed; or a CC, or a Performa. Any suitable 680x0 machine is there to provide support for the Apple IIe Card's processor to be itself, but not to provide services that the 65C02 cannot use.

If you intended to have simultaneous use of the Apple IIe card and ethernet for transfer of ProDOS files, Jim's other suggestion (the use of AppleShare) for file transfer, by selecting a notional and optional card in 'Slot 7' from within the Macintosh environment, is the preferable choice, especially if you have previously partitioned the Mac's HDD with a ProDOS partition (up to 10MB) for the purpose.

Apple IIe; 68K: 11DT + 4PB; PPC: 5DT + 3PB; G3: 6DT System 6.0.8 to OS 10.4.x

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Steve-Mac- Author

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Jul 10, 2006 5:12 PM in response to Denis Eddy

Hi,

Thanks for your input.

I understand that the 530 using the COMM slot and the IIe card is limited because of the hardware in this machine, so there is no workarround.

But with earlier machines, there is no way to get an Ethercard card and the IIe card as there is no other mean of extention (no more slots available). That would mean transfert only with the localtalk network, which should prove to be slower. Shure that IIe programs are lighter than new OS X software...

You will be best off with a 68030 LC machine: any one in the first seven listed

In the first seven you mention, there is a few 68LC040 CPU's as well, they are not all 68030. And not all the performas are compatible as well.

Steve

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