Pages 4.3 - unable to duplicate document (unavailable function)

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Pages 4.3 - unable to duplicate document (unavailable function)

Hi,

I've recently ran across a problem with Pages 4.3 after the update on Mavericks... (or at least I suppose it was the origine of the problem).

The fact is I cannot dupplicate a document any more (or save as...), the shortcut shift+cmd+s is totally unavailable, doesn't even appear in the File menu.

I have uninstalled Pages 5.0 'cause I find it unusable for the time beeing. But in Numbers and Keynote 2013, this shortcut is available. It has however disappeard in the '09 versions... And, surprisingly in Preview.app as well.

This is quite annoying and I couldn't find any answer or even a similar problem anywhere...

Thanks already for your tips or solutions :-)

iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Nov 9, 2013 4:12 AM

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Nov 9, 2013 5:46 AM in response to MarcelPahud

That is not duplicate that is Save As… and you get it by holding down the option key and clicking on the File Menu.

It was the same in previous versions of Pages in Mountain Lion.

Peter

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Nov 9, 2013 6:57 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

No, the option key doesn't make any difference and I didn't have to press it under Mountain Lion...

I just had to press cmd+shift+s and it worked and actually used to duplicate my file (even if, perhaps, the name in the menu was "save as...", which is the reason why I wrote that into brackets earlier).

So, any idea ?

Thanks :-)

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Nov 9, 2013 7:05 AM in response to MarcelPahud

Not True and Not True…

Either there is something different on your computer or you are confusing something as with the Save As… which may simply be because of the language differences.

I am currently back in Snow Leopard or I would post a screen snap of what it looks like with the English Menu.

Peter

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MarcelPahud Author

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Nov 9, 2013 7:30 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Sorry mate, but I think I know what happens on my computer...

Two weeks ago (under Mountain Lion) I could duplicate a file in Pages, Numbers or Preview using the cmd+shift+s shortcut. Now (under Mavericks) this is impossible... And I don't get why...

Here's a screenshot of my menu now in english...

You see... There's no "Save as..." option. And if I press the alt key, all I get is the possibility to "close all" as another menu option... Nothing more...

And what is disturbing is that the cmd+shift+s works in Numers 3.0 for instance but not in Numbers 2.3 (where I have the same problem as in Pages).

I really use this "duplicate" or "save as..." function all the time and it is quite annoying.

Oh and BTW this happens on two different computers... both were under 10.8.5 2 weeks ago and under 10.9 now...

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Nov 9, 2013 7:32 AM in response to MarcelPahud

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/07/29/get-save-as-back-on-mountain-lions-file-menu-easi ly-and-without/

The actual shortcut in Mountain Lion was command shift option s but many people changed it back to the older more sensible command shift s.

Peter

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MarcelPahud Author

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Nov 9, 2013 7:43 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Thanks for this document but this is NOT the problem I have... There's no way to make this "save as..." appear in the menu...

I tried what they propose in this article but it doesn't change anything...

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MarcelPahud Author

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Nov 9, 2013 7:43 AM in response to MarcelPahud

And AGAIN, in ML, my shortcut WAS cmd+shift+s

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Jeff Shenk

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Nov 9, 2013 8:55 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Peter,

Since Lion, the shortcut Marcel is talking about, Command Shift S has been assigned to File > Duplicate as he says, and since Mountain Lion, adding Option to the combination got Save as… back, as you said.

But, in either case, one of those items should show up in the File menu between Save and Revert… but his screenshots show that it has gone missing. I haven't installed Mavericks, but I also haven't read about anyone else noticing this. Maybe another localization bug?

Jeff

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fruhulda

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Nov 9, 2013 9:20 AM in response to Jeff Shenk

The images shows the File menu in Pages 4.3 on Maverick. If I press Option/Alt key I get Save as intead. I couldn get a screen shot of that example though. To me it doesn't look like that the OP's image is from the Mavericks.

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Nov 9, 2013 9:24 AM in response to Jeff Shenk

A localization bug when his second screenshot is in English?

Peter

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MarcelPahud Author

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Nov 9, 2013 9:30 AM in response to fruhulda

This is definitly Mavericks...

Proof ?

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Nov 9, 2013 9:32 AM in response to MarcelPahud

What does happen when you hold down the Option key and click on the File Menu?

Peter

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Jeff Shenk

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Nov 9, 2013 10:01 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Peter,

A defective application file might have seemed more plausible, if it hadn't manifested on two different computers.

Localization did seem unlikely, but Fruhulda has mentioned several times a helper application to switch the language for Pages without switching the system language, and the OP didn't mention how he switched the menu language. Numbers 3 has been demonstrating some serious localization problems, and some of the localization bugs in the past have had no obvious connection to the language.

Maybe a single corrupt application on an external drive is being run on both computers; maybe, to save bandwidth, a single downloaded installer was used to update the OS on both computers or a single download of the application was installed on both computers, and the download was defective. But Marcel hasn't posted anything to suggest that any of those situations apply.

Jeff

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MarcelPahud Author

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Nov 9, 2013 10:36 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Nothing happens when I press the option key... I only get the "Close" option that changes to "Close All", but nothing more.

And these to computers are my personal computers and I installed the apps separately on both computers and, again and again and again, everything was working great under 10.8.5 and after the update, there's this problem showing...

I tried to remove all prefs files but it didn't change anything...

I really don't understand...

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Answer 15

Nov 9, 2013 10:44 AM in response to MarcelPahud

Strange!

I'll go into Apple tomorrow and test it on their Macs because they have a routine that wipes the entire computer everyday and resets them back to factory default. I hope Pages 4.3 is still in their Applications folder.

Sorry Marcel. Some things are just hard to resolve without being there.

Peter

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