Macbook Pro Retina 13" late 2013 (Haswell) UI Lag

My config: 2.6/16/256, 10.9 (Mavericks)


NOTE: Outside of the issues mentioned, this computer has been great. Awesome build quality, perfect size and weight, Retina screen is outstanding, CPU is snappy, boot and wake from sleep is blazing, it makes ZERO noise, even under heavy usage it only gets mildy warm and it gets great battery life.


Here's my problem: While the machine is wonderful in many aspects, it is far from the smooth experience we have come to expect from Apple products. As mentioned in the title, the UI is a step behind and the smooth transitions of non-retina models are stuttery a jerky on the retina.


Some examples of UI issues that I've replicated on floor models at the Apple store are:

1. Putting certain stock apps in fullscreen show choppy animation (Finder, Safari, Chrome, Maps) while others are buttery smooth (iPhoto).

2. Mission control stutters occasionally (usually when one of the above offenders are open).

3. Preview of any large .jpg or RAW image will cause significant lag when putting it into fullscreen. It literally trips the entire way.

4. Swiping between full screen apps will cause light animation stutter.


To troubleshoot it, I've done a few things.


1. Brought it to the genius bar. They checked all of the harware and ran a number of other diagnostics (including resetting the PRAM). While they confirmed the issues I have mentioned, they told me to wait for a software update that will resolve them.

2. Tried things that others have reportedly worked for them: Deleting windowservers in Library, etc.

3. Downloaded "Display Menu" from the App Store so that I can manipulate resolution settings. Interestingly enough, Display Menu hasn't optimized all of their settings for Retina and choosing any stock settings (including best for retina 1280x800) lowers the overall image quality. When in Display Menu's version of 1280x800, all of the problems (outide of the preview issue) dissapeared. Animations were back to being buttery smooth. This leads me to belive that Iris isn't quite up the the task of Retina.


I'm hoping that Apple didn't purposely release these Pro's without considering the GPU's ability to offer a "smooth ride". Has anyone else experienced this? If it is indeed a driver issue, I hope that Apple addresses this sooner than later. Based off of forums from early 2013 rMBP owners, it doesn't look like that will be the case.


Are you experiencing this also and have you found any true solutions?

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9), 13-inch 2.6/16/256

Posted on Nov 10, 2013 9:30 PM

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Apr 20, 2014 4:09 PM in response to JovZun

The problem has to be with powermanagement (AGPM) because Apple want to preserve battery life. When I connect the HDMI cable there is no laggnes in the retina display, maybe because the GPU load a powerstate that can drive the display resolution easily (but consome more energy). Maybe the solution is to delete the profile of macbook retina (macbookPro 11,1) in AppleGraphicsPowermanegement.kext or edit it (there is tutorial in the web - google it!).

Apr 24, 2014 2:28 PM in response to JovZun

Hmm, I'm also having the same UI lag issue on Retina 13". This is my first MacBook so the issue just disappoints me a bit.


I remember that I used to see OS X running very smooth on previous models with great performance and many other things. Because of these facts, I decided to get the latest release to be my best buddy laptop. And now the issue is quite annoying (besides this issue, it's really a great one).


So, well, hope this is just a software or driver issue and Apple could fix it very soon!

Apr 24, 2014 5:20 PM in response to zyenite

Just so you know, I have the older versio of the Retina.. Works great, and the lag issues are not what you guys seem to be experiencing. And I have the HD4000, not the Iris! xD So have hope! It's not a problem with the hardware, and it's definitely fixable in future software updates.


ps, what exactly were the lag issues you were having? Same as OP?

Apr 26, 2014 8:03 PM in response to Wayne Chin

That actually improved my scrolling a lot!! It doesn't lag any more in the certain apps, and I actually like the faster animation. It makes me feel like I'm getting more done, except I'm not. I will say that it's still choppy in iTunes and Evernote where I was having problems.. But as for the timing, it's now actually usable in the certain Evernote note that was giving me issues! 🙂

May 16, 2014 9:55 PM in response to tv1717

Hey,

I have an MPB Pro Retina (Late 2013). Having installed the update since yesterday I must say it has been definitely improved. The UI feels much faster and smoother now. It's not 100% perfect and there's still some little occasional slightly-noticeable issues with it though but overall it's much better now. For example, before the update going to full screen mode, say in Notes, was terribly laggy. Now it's going way much smoother. So I have no idea why some users can't tell the difference.

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