Kenny Wiess

Q: Sleep/wake crash OSX Mavericks, Macbook Air 2013

Hi there,

 

Since the upgrade to Mavericks my 2013 Macbook Air had a few sleep wake crashes. The problem occurs when my air turns to sleep, and I try to wake it with the keyboard within a very short time.(1-3 seconds I think) Happened a few times when I was typing and accidently pressed the on/off button while typing(which is a really stupid feature in the new OSX if you ask me) and a few times when I tried to safe my laptop from going to sleep because it was idle for to long, and just got there to late. What happens is that the Macbook just gives a black screen, but is still on. I cant let it sleep by closing the lid, and the only way to get it running again is by restarting.(holding down the on/off button)

 

Couldnt find anything similar to this. So i'm hoping if this is a common problem with Mavericks and is on the list to be fixed with the new patch.

 

I hope you guys have some info.

MacBook Air, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Nov 11, 2013 5:37 AM

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  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Apr 16, 2014 3:33 PM in response to max_volume
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    Apr 16, 2014 3:33 PM in response to max_volume

    max_volume wrote:

     

    Come on Apple!

    There's almost certainly nobody from Apple reading this, so you need to find another way of communicating your feedback: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookair.html

  • by bonneville77,

    bonneville77 bonneville77 Apr 19, 2014 1:48 AM in response to Shaun7777
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    Apr 19, 2014 1:48 AM in response to Shaun7777

    Hi Shaun7777,

     

    how did you removed the airparrots kexts? A kext is a kernel extension and i read the howto in https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/Manpages/ man8/kextunload.8.html#//apple_ref/doc/man/8/kextunload but i dont know how to use it.

    I used your hint "kextstat | grep -v apple" and found 2 kext that i would remove: se.coolbook.driver2 and com.ncp-e.vpn.driver.ncplbmac

     

    Do you know foo.tun and foo.tap kext?

     

    Thanks, Markus

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Apr 19, 2014 2:03 AM in response to bonneville77
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    Apr 19, 2014 2:03 AM in response to bonneville77

    bonneville77 wrote:

     

    how did you removed the airparrots kexts?

    As he said he went to the developers web site and followed the instructions there for removing all of airparrots, not just the kext files. That's always the best way to un-install any software, assuming the developer will provide you with an un-installer or at least instructions.  You could simply delete those two .kext files and reboot, but chances are there is additional software installed and perhaps still active and looking for those files.

    Do you know foo.tun and foo.tap kext?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUN/TAP Commonly used by VPN services.

  • by bonneville77,

    bonneville77 bonneville77 Apr 21, 2014 12:48 PM in response to MadMacs0
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    Apr 21, 2014 12:48 PM in response to MadMacs0

    You could simply delete those two .kext files and reboot, but chances are there is additional software installed and perhaps still active and looking for those files.

    Do you know foo.tun and foo.tap kext?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUN/TAP Commonly used by VPN services.

     

    I think i've got it! No crashes and no sleep wake failures since fixing:

    Look for non-apple kernel extensions:

    kextstat | grep -v apple

     

    To delete a kext:

    cd /system/library/extensions

    sudo mv kextname.kext ~/.

     

    foo.tun and foo.tap are from an Install of "Tunnelblick", a third party VPN Client. I think this the reason, why it crashes..

    To remove:

    sudo kextunload -b foo.tun

    sudo kextunload -b foo.tab

     

    Greetings from Germany..

    Markus

  • by jkbull,

    jkbull jkbull Apr 22, 2014 4:40 AM in response to bonneville77
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    Apr 22, 2014 4:40 AM in response to bonneville77

    foo.tun and foo.tap are from an Install of "Tunnelblick", a third party VPN Client. I think this the reason, why it crashes.

     

    You may still have crashes after you restart your computer or log out and then back in again.

     

    Although "sudo kextunload" may have removed the kexts from the computer's memory, they will be reloaded the next time you launch a very old version of Tunnelblick (which may automatically launch when you log in). If they are from a program other than Tunnelblick (other VPN software also  installed foo.tun and foo.tap), they may be set up to load when you restart your computer.

     

    Versions of Tunnelblick more than about four years old loaded the two kexts when the program launched, and unloaded them when  it quit, so such an old version of Tunnelblick would have to have been running at the time of the crash. Newer versions of Tunnelblick load and unload kexts only as needed, and name them "net.tunnelblick.tun" and "net.tunnelblick.tap". Newer versions also load different versions of the kexts depending on which version of OS X you are running.

     

    If you  have an old version of Tunnelblick installed on your computer, you should either

    • Update to the latest version from the Downloads page; just install a new version by double-clicking, there is no need to uninstall the old one first, or
    • Completely uninstall it using these instructions.
  • by Pieter Ratering,

    Pieter Ratering Pieter Ratering Apr 24, 2014 10:59 AM in response to Kenny Wiess
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    Apr 24, 2014 10:59 AM in response to Kenny Wiess

    Update Mavericks yesterday (security update). The first time I woke my MBP from the screensaver it locked up and I had to use the power button to shut it down get it back to life.

    So after all these months still no fix for this problem.

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Apr 24, 2014 11:51 AM in response to Pieter Ratering
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    Apr 24, 2014 11:51 AM in response to Pieter Ratering

    Have you considered joining the OS X Beta Seed Program for Mavericks?

  • by Holger Lehniger,

    Holger Lehniger Holger Lehniger Apr 25, 2014 12:26 AM in response to Kenny Wiess
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    Apr 25, 2014 12:26 AM in response to Kenny Wiess

    I seem to have the same problem and this is an iMac. so it does not seem to be restricted to Macbook Air or Macbook Pro.

    I was hoping the recent security update will solve it but did not.

     

    Has anybody found a workaround except preventing the display not to go to sleep?

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 Apr 25, 2014 12:49 AM in response to Holger Lehniger
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    Apr 25, 2014 12:49 AM in response to Holger Lehniger

    Holger Lehniger wrote:

     

    I was hoping the recent security update will solve it but did not.

    Security updates would never solve a problem like this. As I just suggested to the last "Me Too'er", consider joining the OS X Beta Seed Program for Mavericks. That's where all the fixes would be.

  • by Holger Lehniger,

    Holger Lehniger Holger Lehniger Apr 25, 2014 1:13 AM in response to MadMacs0
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    Apr 25, 2014 1:13 AM in response to MadMacs0

    I just called Apple Support and received a very competent guideline which seems to have solved the problem on my end:

    • Close all programs
    • Shutdown your computer
    • Unplug your iMac from power
    • Keeping it unplugged press the power button at least 5 seconds
    • Plug your iMac to power
    • Press the power button
    • As soon as you release the power button press the keys alt+cmd+p+r until you hear the chime the second time

     

    This includes an SMC reset (see here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964?viewlocale=en_US) and an NVRAM reset (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379?viewlocale=en_US)

     

    My display sleep issue seems to be solved by that.

  • by Floops,

    Floops Floops Apr 25, 2014 5:10 AM in response to Kenny Wiess
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    Apr 25, 2014 5:10 AM in response to Kenny Wiess

    This is a horrible problem. The problem has existed for almost half a year and it's still unresolved after three updates.

     

    <Edited by Host>

  • by todd675,

    todd675 todd675 Apr 29, 2014 9:42 AM in response to Kenny Wiess
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    Apr 29, 2014 9:42 AM in response to Kenny Wiess

    I've got a 2010 iMac and started having this problem only after I installed Mavericks.  At first the computer would not wake from sleep once or twice a week, but over the last few months it has devolved into twice a day.

     

    Anyway, I reset the PRAM and NVRAM this past Saturday, and I'm happy to report that so far it appears to have done the job: no wake up problems for 3 days now.  Here's the directions for resetting PRAM and NVRAM:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379

     

    I also did the SMC reset (which is a different process depending on whether you have a desktop or laptop).

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964

  • by andyappel,

    andyappel andyappel May 5, 2014 8:43 AM in response to Floops
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    May 5, 2014 8:43 AM in response to Floops

    My MacBook Pro Mid-2010 just started experienceing this issue this weekend.  Never experienced this issue before this weekend.  I reset the PRAM and NVRAM, formatted the HardDrive & re-installed OSX but the problem still persists.  I am switching back to a Windows 7 machines for now because my Mac is just unseable like this.  Hopefully someone (HELP APPLE) fixes this soon.

     

    -andy

  • by MadMacs0,

    MadMacs0 MadMacs0 May 5, 2014 11:22 AM in response to andyappel
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    May 5, 2014 11:22 AM in response to andyappel

    andyappel wrote:

     

    Hopefully someone (HELP APPLE) fixes this soon.

    Hopefully you know that Apple is probably not reading this, so you need to take your computer to them or contact them in some other manner to get yours fixed.

  • by andyappel,

    andyappel andyappel May 5, 2014 11:38 AM in response to MadMacs0
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    May 5, 2014 11:38 AM in response to MadMacs0

    I hear ya and agree but you would hope that Apple would at least be monitoring these channels because its in their best interest if their **** works.

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