Scott Finlayson

Q: Mavericks Mail not sync'ing IMAP act. (Not GMail)

I have been waiting silently to see if a fix would come on its own, but none yet. Ever since upgrading to Mavericks, Mail.app does NOT sync my IMAP accounts correctly. I have gone so far as to remove and re-add the accounts numerous times... no change. The recent "update" that was supposed to address Gmail issues had no affect on my sync'ing issues either. As others have posted, I basically have to quit and re-launch mail for it to correctly show what is on the mail server. All of my iDevices are working just fine - I can read or move an email, and all my iDevices show it correctly... but when I return to my Mac - some show as unread - some messages that I moved or deleted are still THERE (unread), etc.

 

Once I quit and relaunch, the inbox displays correctly - but there is no way (that I can find) to force the inbox to "refresh" correctly while the app is open. "Getting new" messages does nothing to help. Has anyone found a solution or work-around...? or is this just a "sit back and wait for Apple to fix" kind of problem...?

 

Thanks,

SF

Posted on Nov 13, 2013 5:16 AM

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  • by bob4aplz1,

    bob4aplz1 bob4aplz1 Jan 9, 2014 11:12 AM in response to hab1
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    Jan 9, 2014 11:12 AM in response to hab1

    hab1,

     

    That is exactly what happened (the short term working upon deletion of Flip4Mac) and the same syncing issue.

     

    Here is what I did to hopefully put my two cents in with Apple...to no avail at this point. I emailed Tim Cook and basically said this: I've been a loyal and mostly happy Mac user/fan since the SE, but if you don't fix Mail, it really doesn't matter to me what new software/hardware/cool stuff you come up with. Mail is my main business software, both for communication and for storing information. The fact it is broken and your fix did not fix it causes me untold loss of time/revenue every day. That's all that matters to me. So fix it!

     

    <Email Edited by Host>

  • by hab1,

    hab1 hab1 Jan 9, 2014 11:20 AM in response to bob4aplz1
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    Jan 9, 2014 11:20 AM in response to bob4aplz1

    Well said, Bob. I'll write something similar. I've been a user a little shorter than you, just going back to the 2SI days … but when I saw how productive it  made my people, I moved the entire 50 person company (at the time) to Macs.

     

    It's a real shame that so much of their traditional software seems to be starved for attention.

     

    Please post any answers you might get (Ha!).

  • by Gina Tallman,

    Gina Tallman Gina Tallman Jan 10, 2014 4:58 PM in response to Scott Finlayson
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    Jan 10, 2014 4:58 PM in response to Scott Finlayson

    Yeah, nevermind.  Mine went back to not syncing properly too. 

  • by Scott Finlayson,

    Scott Finlayson Scott Finlayson Jan 11, 2014 4:06 AM in response to Scott Finlayson
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    Jan 11, 2014 4:06 AM in response to Scott Finlayson

    I just submitted *ANOTHER* bug report to Apple. I had (wrongly) assumed that something like this... something that breaks the core functionality that ALL Mail applications should be able to do in their most-basic form... would be squashed immediately with the next update. I/We shouldn't have to go purchase a 3rd-party application to get basic sync'ing functionality back again. Either Apple really just does not have enough users having this problem... or enough people TELLING them that they are having this problem.

     

    If you are experiencing this Non-Sync'ing issue - PLEASE:

     

    • Launch the Mail.app
    • In the menu bar, go to Mail > Provide Mail Feedback... and click it
    • It's your choice to uncheck or leave-checked the option to send your Mail info
    • Click Continue
    • A new browser page will open on Apple's site with a form
    • Fill out the feedback submission form explaining this problem and submit it.

     

    Yes, I know there are larger problems in this world. This is not life-threatening. But for a minor annoyance, it would be helpful to those of us having the issue to let Apple know. Please submit a bug report if you haven't already.

    Thanks.

  • by bob4aplz1,

    bob4aplz1 bob4aplz1 Jan 11, 2014 8:22 AM in response to Scott Finlayson
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    Jan 11, 2014 8:22 AM in response to Scott Finlayson

    Scott,

     

    Done. Someone at the local Apple Store suggested the feedback page to me yesterday.

  • by mumbles2701,

    mumbles2701 mumbles2701 Jan 11, 2014 1:27 PM in response to bob4aplz1
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    Jan 11, 2014 1:27 PM in response to bob4aplz1

    ive tried loads of things. interesting these things happen but i dont know why or if thats noteworthy:

     

    i have the same versions of mail on my Mini and MBP, but Mini doesnt behave, it doesnt save things i do, changes i make, rukes i change, emails i delete or tag. i have turned off the Mini Mail and the sync between MBP and iPhone behaves.

     

    i have no idea what thats telling me. Maybe that:

     

    iphone mail could be the problem?

     

    my Mini Mail is corrupt?

  • by Zoot42,

    Zoot42 Zoot42 Jan 12, 2014 2:20 AM in response to Scott Finlayson
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    Jan 12, 2014 2:20 AM in response to Scott Finlayson

    I bought my Macbook Pro on Jan 4th, have done all the software updates and hav a minimal amount of new apps added. Mail doesn't sync when I first log in. There is a work round I use which is a slight pain but at least it is workable:

     

    Double-click on Inbox - that is the word Inbox which has a drop down menu containing a list of your mail account inboxes (you may have just one - I have several).

    Select "Tall all accounts offline"

    Wait a few seconds and you will see a warning symbol appear by each inbox

    Double-click on inbox again and select "Take all accounts online"

     

    I hope Apple fix ths soon though.

     

    Grahame

  • by mumbles2701,

    mumbles2701 mumbles2701 Jan 12, 2014 1:48 PM in response to Zoot42
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    Jan 12, 2014 1:48 PM in response to Zoot42

    with the error in reading emails, syncing and the error in read e-mail count, i'm wondering if the reading of emails is the problem.

     

    i noticed, when i had the read email count error, that if i scanned through emails with a preview plane, this Mavericks version didnt tick off the email as read. i had to open it or actually click into the preview plane and wait for it to be 'read'.

     

    now i tried fixing a test email that refuses to behave. with just preview plane viewing of the email, so not a separate opened window, I apply Tags to it, close email., reopen, and those tags are not there. haven't saved.

     

    if i do the same exercise but in a window with the email opened, so its viewed in a second window, tags save.

     

    This would link the 2 major problems everyone is having.

     

    still testing this out

  • by Ali Altamimi,

    Ali Altamimi Ali Altamimi Jan 13, 2014 3:44 AM in response to Scott Finlayson
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    Jan 13, 2014 3:44 AM in response to Scott Finlayson

    here i have the same problem with mavericks, i'm wondering how long does it take apple to fix this silly problem ????????????????

  • by Scott Finlayson,

    Scott Finlayson Scott Finlayson Jan 13, 2014 8:25 AM in response to Ali Altamimi
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    Jan 13, 2014 8:25 AM in response to Ali Altamimi

    here i have the same problem with mavericks, i'm wondering how long does it take apple to fix this silly problem ????????????????

    Again, if you haven't already done so, PLEASE send a bug report to Apple via the instructions about 5 replies above this one. Apple will not fix what they don't know about - these forums are NOT a means of reporting bugs - just a way for end-users to discuss Apple topics and issues. Thanks

  • by Tonyc19v,

    Tonyc19v Tonyc19v Jan 13, 2014 9:35 AM in response to Scott Finlayson
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    Jan 13, 2014 9:35 AM in response to Scott Finlayson

    I filed an Apple bug on this (actually on a Gmail specific version of this - but effectively the same problem) on 20-November.

    Bug number: 15516430

    State:Open

    Product:Mail

    Rank:2 - Important

     

    It has been marked by Apple as 'Duplicate of 15440215 (Open)', so someone else had previously filed a bug for the same problem, and that bug is still 'open'. Thats nearly 8 weeks ago. So, how long does it take Apple to fix it - more than 8 weeks certainly.

     

    I've given up with Apple Mail now and use Airmail - which is excellent. I had one very minor problem with Airmail so filed a bug with them. I got a response the same day asking me to test a Beta version of an update to test if the bug was present in that. (In the end a 'quit' and 'restart' fixed the minor problem). Not only is the Airmail product excellent, but their customer service is outstanding - they actually communicate with you!

  • by akfromnyc,

    akfromnyc akfromnyc Jan 14, 2014 8:41 PM in response to Tonyc19v
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    Mac OS X
    Jan 14, 2014 8:41 PM in response to Tonyc19v

    Any recommendations for an alternate to Mac mail on my iMac?  I cant take this anymore. Outlook?

  • by Tonyc19v,

    Tonyc19v Tonyc19v Jan 14, 2014 11:48 PM in response to akfromnyc
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    Jan 14, 2014 11:48 PM in response to akfromnyc

    I reached the same point on Christmas Day.

     

    I thought about Outlook, which I have a copy of with Office 2011, but it doesn't integrate with iCloud, so you can use your existing Contacts list with it :( No good for me as I need Contacts stay common across MacBook, iPad and iPhone.

     

    So I bought Airmail for £1.49 (UK), $1.99 US, and it's solves all my Mavericks/Mail problems. Best Christmas present I had.

     

    I run 3 Gmail accounts all in IMAP and all stay in sync with iPad and iPhone all the time. (Note I am using Gmail - you would need to check it out for other accounts). It integrates fine with iCloud contacts. I can't speak highly enough about Airmail. And, when I had one very minor problem I filed a bug and Airmail got back to me the same day with suggestions :). (Quit and restart fixed the minor problem). Bottom line, it just works, and is an absolute bargain.

  • by akfromnyc,

    akfromnyc akfromnyc Jan 15, 2014 4:56 AM in response to Tonyc19v
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    Mac OS X
    Jan 15, 2014 4:56 AM in response to Tonyc19v

    Thanks!  Only $2 for airmail? What is the "catch"?

  • by Tonyc19v,

    Tonyc19v Tonyc19v Jan 15, 2014 5:46 AM in response to akfromnyc
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    Jan 15, 2014 5:46 AM in response to akfromnyc

    I haven't found any 'catch' yet. I've been using it for 3 weeks... very happy

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