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If I buy an ipad mini for ATT, can I use it with T-mobile?

I want to buy a refurbished ipad mini with cellular so I can get the 200MB free monthly data from t-mobile.


I found a refurbished ipad mini "for AT&T". There isn't any marked as "for t-mobile" at this time.

My understanding about ipads are they are not carrier locked. So what does it mean it is "for AT&T", other than it is GSM?


http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD537LL/A/refurbished-ipad-mini-with-wi-fi-cel lular-for-att-16gb-white-silver


Can I use this with t-mobile?

Mini, Mac OS X (10.6)

Posted on Nov 13, 2013 8:57 AM

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Nov 13, 2013 1:36 PM in response to Gala_Apple

You read my mind. I did a chat session with a tmobile rep. Here you go:


T-Mobile: We have received your information and will connect you with a T-Mobile Chat Specialist soon.

Luluvel F: Hi Donald! Thank you for chatting with us. I will be more than happy to help you by answering all of your inquiries for today.

Luluvel F: Do you already have an account with us?

You: Hi...I am interested in bringing a tablet to tmobile for a data-only 500mb account

You: no

Luluvel F: Thank you for that information.

You: If I purchase a refurbished ipad mini from apple that says at&t, will it work on tmo's network?

Luluvel F: Yes, it will work as long as the tablet is completely unlocked from AT&T.

You: Ahh...but that would mean I will need to activate with them first?

Luluvel F: That I cannot guarantee you for each service provider has it's own policies in unlocking the device.

You: I know they offer 2 unlocks per year to customers and I have an iphone with them

Luluvel F: Thank you for that information. For us to be sure of the AT&T's unlocking process, I would recommend that you contact AT&T, Donald.

You: Fair enough...thank you for confirming that it will work otherwise

Luluvel F: Do you have any other questions at the moment?

You: No sir that was it

Luluvel F: Alright, Donald. It's my pleasure to answer all of your inquires for today. I'm Luluvel and you can always count on us. Bye for now and have an amazing day!

You: Thanks you too

Dec 21, 2013 7:16 AM in response to Gala_Apple

Apparently yes, you can use the AT&T iPad mini on T-Mobile. If you're getting a non-Retina, just make sure you're that getting the iPad mini A1454 or A1455 (which I think is either cellular model, which surprised me).


Double check here:


http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-9700


Eligible phones, tablets, and internet devices

You get 200MB of free 4G LTE data each month for as long as you own your tablet. On certain HP devices, you get 200 MB of data every 30 days for 24 months (see list of HP devices below this table).


Brand Device Model
Apple iPad 1

A1337

iPad 2 A1396
iPad 3rd Gen w/ Retina display A1403
A1430
iPad 4th Gen w/ Retina display A1459
A1460
iPad Air A1475
iPad mini A1454
A1455
iPad mini w/ Retina display A1517


Although strangely it's got the 1 on there, which doesn't have LTE, correct? So I'm not sure what that means, exactly. Probably worth calling and asking if the model number you're getting will work with LTE.

Dec 21, 2013 8:55 AM in response to ruffin

AT&T model will work with every carrier including T-Mobiile and Verizon although Verizon will say they won't be able to activate it, it will work with an already activated Verizon sim.


The AT&T Retina model will work perfectly with T-Mobiles LTE system.


I bought the Retina iPad Mini Verizon model and am using it on T-Mobile and get faster speeds than I ever could with AT&T and Verizon combined.


Even the AT&T original Mini will work on T-Mobiles LTE network but it will not get the coverage that the Retina Mini will get. I found that when I used the orginal Mini on T-Mobile, it was good on LTE as long as I was at home. When out driving, it spent more time on edge then on LTE.


The Retina Mini in my area spends more time on LTE on T-Mobile and now only has one small area where I get edge.

Jan 12, 2014 3:16 PM in response to Gala_Apple

Hi Gala_Apple...


Well, if you are to believe the (stunningly-not-very-helpful) "Genius Bar" staff at the Apple Store in Portland, Maine the Ipad Mini CANNOT connect to T-mobile's connection because it was not designed with the correct antenna to connect to T-Mobile's LTE or 4G frequencies.


There must have been a change in the design since Apple is now advertising T-Mobile as a carrier for the ipad mini (both the G1 and the G2 (retina display)).


The same problem happened with the very first batch of iPhone5 phones but with them Apple is at least honoring its AppleCare warranty and replacing the devices with ones that have the updated antenna so users aren't trapped with AT&T but, apparently, the same does not apply with the IPad Mini. If the Genius Bar staff are to be considered as being Apple's official spokespeople on the matter users are being told to sell their devices on Craiglist and repurchase new ones if they want to be on T-Mobile.


Frankly, this appears to breach Apple's own warranty but I haven't yet had time to go through it line-by-line, as a manufacturing fault (because I haven't seen anywhere that says that you're forced to remain with the carrier). Even if it isn't a breach (and they've managed to fine-print around it) its still a pretty abysmal customer-service response for something that, ultimately, is an oversight in design and manufacturing on their part (and one that they apparently have a fix for).


So, in my case, I'm stuck with a brand new ipad mini (because the replacement ipad mini they just presented me under the AppleCare warrenty also cannot connect with the network) that can't connect with T-Mobile so I'm forced to buy AT&T's service.


Shame on you Apple.

Jan 12, 2014 10:02 PM in response to DrDMesq

could you please post more information about this antenna problem?


the iphone 5 and ipad mini was not able to connect to tmobole's 4g LTE network because it doesnt have the updated LTE chipset that is in the 5c or 5s. what your basically saying is that people who bought the original iphone 5 can suddenly trade it in to get more lte channels ???


this is the same deal as the ipad air / ipad mini retina vs last years model. last years model did not support as many lte channels as the new models do. if you want LTE speed on tmobile you have to own a ipad air, ipad mini retina, iphone 5c or iphone 5s. anything less then those models may be limited to either 3G on or 4G depending on your tmovile area


iphone 5, last years ipad and ipad mini

  • GSM model A1428*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 4 and 17)
  • CDMA model A1429*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 13, 25)
  • GSM model A1429*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5)

iphone 5s, 5c , ipad air, ipad mini retina


(GSM)*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25)

(CDMA)*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 19, 20, 25)


cdma CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26)

If I buy an ipad mini for ATT, can I use it with T-mobile?

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