findik
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Q: mavericks serious memory leak increase

ok, this is my first post here. I checked other posts but issue is not resolved it seems.

 

I upgraded to mavericks only because it was saying like "speed things up" "optimized memory usage" etc. and I am using macbook pro 15 inch 2012 retina display with 16gb ram and thouht any optimized memory and speed things would be very beneficial especially for retina computers.

 

Problem: memory usage inctreases in a day from 6gb ram (yesterday evening) 11.66gb (this morning), mainly mac was "sleeping" only. I see batery usage also decreased. This is really a serious issue since I noticed this issue when I was writing my grant 2 days ago and computer started very slow and at the critical time of submission process, thought computer is gonna crash. Then I saw memory usage was whole 16gb, then I restarted the computer with the option that reopen the all programs that I am using (nothing was saveable), then everthing is back to normal and memory usage was about 6gb, although I was using exactly the same programs, apps, number of windows etc. If you know the solution would you please post back.

 

thoughts (maybe apple reads, you dont need to comment or pls suggest where to post)

what's going on with the technology? I am a professor and even windows XP with 3 gb ram was doing much better than this computer, even up until 1 year ago. The only reason I moved to mac was the retina display (and crappy display thinkpads are having after that Chinese company). Retina is really worth it for your eyes if you are all the time reading writing through monitors, and that microsoft is killing the best os with "respect to productivity": win xp (please dont comment on this) and some weird win 8 (like a joke). All tech is moving to teenage level satisfaction, nothing much productivity, scientists/professional level. All I want from a computer is to be speedy and efficient, good keyboard and monitor (ibm thinkpad had this by 2005). Now 16 gb is not enough to these new stuff? All the focus on this mavericks (except memory, speed things they said that hooked me):  all about unnecessary things, either color change in dock, or dot indicator becomes rectangle, or on much focus on look, to be thin etc). Well if you make it thin, then it will get hotter, fan needs to work harder, and keybord space becomes less available then you end up with unconfurtable keyboard (ceck out thinkpads). I want a computer robust, handling task well without too much warm up, looking solid (not sexy or for teenagers), strong (sorry this reminded me ibm thinkpads earlier than 2005 again)... 

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Nov 20, 2013 4:23 AM

by Tommy Moore,Solvedanswer
Tommy Moore Tommy Moore
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Just an FYI...

I have found the TWITTER desktop app has a memory leak. If I leave it open over night, RAM resource is in the yellow. Close app and RAM compression drops way back down in green.

Posted on Sep 19, 2014 10:52 AM

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  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jan 30, 2014 11:08 AM in response to findik
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    Jan 30, 2014 11:08 AM in response to findik

    Not sure I want to reinstall, is there a way to reinstall software that came with it?

     

    If you legitimately own the software that came with it, then you have been given an original install disk or a serial number that can be used with a re-downloaded copy. If you do not have these things, you don't own the software. It was included on the computer illegally by the seller... unfortunately, an all too common occurrence. If the seller actually did provide you with those things, then you shouldn't have any trouble reinstalling after erasing the hard drive.

  • by findik,

    findik findik Jan 30, 2014 11:15 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Jan 30, 2014 11:15 AM in response to thomas_r.

    I erased all adobe, by using AppCleaner, it was saying ~15GB tookm but after restart I see that software erased but machd is still the same size? Any idea?

     

    I looked at your link for the fresh install, well, maverick install can be downloaded, am I supposed to make a disk or can I just go ahead by clickin on it?

  • by findik,

    findik findik Jan 30, 2014 11:32 AM in response to findik
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    Jan 30, 2014 11:32 AM in response to findik

    please do not bother about size, I emptied recycle bin and got my space. Also for fresh install what would you suggest, I may do it in a month. Apple allows downloading mavericks. From that point what needs to be done?

     

    thank you,

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jan 30, 2014 12:06 PM in response to findik
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    Jan 30, 2014 12:06 PM in response to findik

    I erased all adobe, by using AppCleaner

     

    AppCleaner (and all other apps of its ilk) is worthless. They are very unreliable, either not removing everything they should or removing more than they should. The only appropriate method for uninstalling software that requires an installer is to use the uninstaller provided by the developer of that software.

     

    I looked at your link for the fresh install, well, maverick install can be downloaded, am I supposed to make a disk or can I just go ahead by clickin on it?

     

    Since it's a used machine, you need to install the system it originally came with. If it was upgraded to Lion or later by the previous owner, that system is associated with their Apple ID, and you will be unable to reinstall it without their password.

     

    For more info on figuring out what system to install, see:

     

    How to prepare your Mac for sale

  • by Network 23,

    Network 23 Network 23 Jan 30, 2014 2:12 PM in response to thomas_r.
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    Jan 30, 2014 2:12 PM in response to thomas_r.

    thomas_r. wrote:

     

    I erased all adobe, by using AppCleaner

     

    AppCleaner (and all other apps of its ilk) is worthless. They are very unreliable, either not removing everything they should or removing more than they should. The only appropriate method for uninstalling software that requires an installer is to use the uninstaller provided by the developer of that software.

    I agree, especially in the case of Adobe. Adobe provides its own uninstallers in the Utilities folder, and those uninstallers know exactly all files that need to be removed. I guess it might be worth trying to run one if they're still there, in case it can clean up anything still left over by AppCleaner.

  • by ResoluteSystems,

    ResoluteSystems ResoluteSystems Apr 13, 2014 2:37 AM in response to findik
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    Apr 13, 2014 2:37 AM in response to findik

    Is there a Parallels connection with these memory problems?

     

    I ran into memory problems with Safari, and Mail on Mavericks after updating a Virtual PC to Windows 8.1, running on Parallels Desktop 8. The problem seems to have gone away after upgrading Parallels to version 9.

  • by findik,

    findik findik Apr 13, 2014 6:22 AM in response to ResoluteSystems
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    Apr 13, 2014 6:22 AM in response to ResoluteSystems

    Paralllel might have that issue but it is not the only reason, there might be other programs has that issue. I see the problem when I dont use parallel too.

     

    As thomas_r usggested clean install might help to find which 3rd party app causing this. I disagree on doing install to original state. Just backup, wipe the hard drive and install fresh mavericks with usb stick, see youtube videos. Then install individuall apps to debug which one. I must add could not resove the issue in one of my machine (have not done clean install yet). The other machine not much frequently used so not sure whether it is resolved or not. Maverics itself might have bug in it too. Although they might say it is a good idea but nobody for sure it is working as it is supposed to do. They have not been able to fix even smaller bugs until now, and this might be even more serous bug, no idea.

  • by ResoluteSystems,

    ResoluteSystems ResoluteSystems Apr 13, 2014 9:39 AM in response to findik
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    Apr 13, 2014 9:39 AM in response to findik

    >  Paralllel might have that issue but it is not the only reason, there might be other programs

    >  has that issue. I see the problem when I dont use parallel too.

     

    That's my experience too. The problem started with the Windows 8.1 update and ended with the Parallels 9 upgrade and was evident whether Parallels was running or not.

  • by findik,

    findik findik Sep 5, 2014 3:30 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Sep 5, 2014 3:30 AM in response to thomas_r.

    Which OS are you using? Would you suggest going back to ML?

  • by Corey Smith3,

    Corey Smith3 Corey Smith3 Sep 19, 2014 10:00 AM in response to findik
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    Sep 19, 2014 10:00 AM in response to findik

    I have had and seen the same issues at the company i work for. We have about 15 mac book pro 13 inch with 4 to 8 gigs of ram. These machines ran great in 10.8 but as soon as 10.9 was installed all 15 users noticed that their machines were going very slow. My guess is that apple assumes that most people are using solid state drives. All the machines we have still use a 5400 RPM drive in them and when the memory fills it trys to compress and write the cache to the hard drive and the 5400 rpm drive can't keep up. Upping the ram has helped a little bit but the problem still happens. I just wish there was a way to set the memory to work like it did in 10.8, where it worked correct.

     

    I am going to purchase a solid state drive and install it in one of these laptops to see if that helps.

     

    The reason i think this is we have swapped out units for mac book air's with less memory

     

    IE we have a user who had a macbook pro 13 inch with 8 gigs of ram and gave them a mac book air with 4 gigs of ram and they noticed a big speed increase. On paper the mac book pro should be faster than the mac book air.

     

    Mac book pro has

         2.5 GHZ i5

         8 gigs memory 1600mhz DDR3

         1TB 5400 RPM drive

     

    Macbook air has

         1.3Ghz i5

         4 Gigs memory 1600Mhz DDr3

         128 GB solid state drive.

     

     

    So i totally under stand and see what your talking about findik,i am tired of hearing about how mavericks uses the memory different i can tell you that it does and when it does it does it slower.

     

    I will post to let you all know if the solid state fixes the issue.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 19, 2014 10:08 AM in response to Corey Smith3
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    Sep 19, 2014 10:08 AM in response to Corey Smith3

    The slowest component in the Mac is its hard drive, putting an SSD in place of an HDD is always much faster. You just removed the bottleneck. Compressing Ram does not involve "writing the cache to the hard drive"

     

    In my experience Maverick is faster with the same amount of Ram than Mountain Lion and Snow Leopard. I would look for common incompatible apps running on them (leftovers from ML usually)

  • by Tommy Moore,Solvedanswer

    Tommy Moore Tommy Moore Sep 19, 2014 10:52 AM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 19, 2014 10:52 AM in response to Csound1

    Just an FYI...

    I have found the TWITTER desktop app has a memory leak. If I leave it open over night, RAM resource is in the yellow. Close app and RAM compression drops way back down in green.

  • by PATRICKMELE,

    PATRICKMELE PATRICKMELE Sep 19, 2014 10:56 AM in response to Tommy Moore
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    Sep 19, 2014 10:56 AM in response to Tommy Moore

    Thanks for the Tip, good to know I had a issue also now resolved

  • by findik,

    findik findik Sep 19, 2014 11:08 AM in response to Tommy Moore
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    Sep 19, 2014 11:08 AM in response to Tommy Moore

    Yes, I never used twitter in my life but came with this laptop I purchased from ebay. I could not fully uninstall, still was never opened. After I did a clean install, of course everything is wiped. Now definitely faster mac, but this also means that I am getting new 3rd party softwares and they might also have memory leaks. It should not be this fragile. Anyhow, I am happy that I did a clean install, but still won't sure that what/why is better. If we got a virus I would expect to behave like this but still. Anyways, Apple should definitely make a warning for the clean install. I suggest you all before installing a 3rd party software, google search for memory issues. Compared to Windows, this fragility still reminds me of my bad linux experiences...  

  • by Corey Smith3,

    Corey Smith3 Corey Smith3 Sep 19, 2014 11:40 AM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 19, 2014 11:40 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 ,

     

    Im saying the mac book pro was faster than the mac book air in 10.8. As soon as 10.9 is installed on both machines the mac book air is faster. It does not make sense.

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