findik
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Q: mavericks serious memory leak increase

ok, this is my first post here. I checked other posts but issue is not resolved it seems.

 

I upgraded to mavericks only because it was saying like "speed things up" "optimized memory usage" etc. and I am using macbook pro 15 inch 2012 retina display with 16gb ram and thouht any optimized memory and speed things would be very beneficial especially for retina computers.

 

Problem: memory usage inctreases in a day from 6gb ram (yesterday evening) 11.66gb (this morning), mainly mac was "sleeping" only. I see batery usage also decreased. This is really a serious issue since I noticed this issue when I was writing my grant 2 days ago and computer started very slow and at the critical time of submission process, thought computer is gonna crash. Then I saw memory usage was whole 16gb, then I restarted the computer with the option that reopen the all programs that I am using (nothing was saveable), then everthing is back to normal and memory usage was about 6gb, although I was using exactly the same programs, apps, number of windows etc. If you know the solution would you please post back.

 

thoughts (maybe apple reads, you dont need to comment or pls suggest where to post)

what's going on with the technology? I am a professor and even windows XP with 3 gb ram was doing much better than this computer, even up until 1 year ago. The only reason I moved to mac was the retina display (and crappy display thinkpads are having after that Chinese company). Retina is really worth it for your eyes if you are all the time reading writing through monitors, and that microsoft is killing the best os with "respect to productivity": win xp (please dont comment on this) and some weird win 8 (like a joke). All tech is moving to teenage level satisfaction, nothing much productivity, scientists/professional level. All I want from a computer is to be speedy and efficient, good keyboard and monitor (ibm thinkpad had this by 2005). Now 16 gb is not enough to these new stuff? All the focus on this mavericks (except memory, speed things they said that hooked me):  all about unnecessary things, either color change in dock, or dot indicator becomes rectangle, or on much focus on look, to be thin etc). Well if you make it thin, then it will get hotter, fan needs to work harder, and keybord space becomes less available then you end up with unconfurtable keyboard (ceck out thinkpads). I want a computer robust, handling task well without too much warm up, looking solid (not sexy or for teenagers), strong (sorry this reminded me ibm thinkpads earlier than 2005 again)... 

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Nov 20, 2013 4:23 AM

by Tommy Moore,Solvedanswer
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Just an FYI...

I have found the TWITTER desktop app has a memory leak. If I leave it open over night, RAM resource is in the yellow. Close app and RAM compression drops way back down in green.

Posted on Sep 19, 2014 10:52 AM

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  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Nov 20, 2013 4:31 AM in response to findik
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    Nov 20, 2013 4:31 AM in response to findik

    Mavericks works under the philosophy that free RAM is wasted RAM, more so than previous versions of the system. You should not assume that there is a problem if all your RAM is in use... That is how Mavericks speeds thing up, by caching data that may be reused in the future. If you have low memory issues, the memory pressure graph will run high.

     

    As for your performance issues, see:

     

    http://www.thesafemac.com/mpg

  • by findik,

    findik findik Nov 20, 2013 11:15 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Nov 20, 2013 11:15 AM in response to thomas_r.

    First, thanks for the reply.

     

    I read about the changes in mavericks about the memory stuff.

     

    I think it is still a problem since it is not about numbers, practically I started seeing spinning circle and slowliness after mavericks. After I reboot things get normal memory usage number reduces and computer is more functional. I never experienced this before with mountain lion for the whole year.

     

    I see that many people seeing some sort of memory and slow mac issues after switching to mavericks. Stg is wrong but could not understand. About once per month I let macbook on battery, and amazingly in 4-5 hours whole battery is almosty gone, even without internet connection. Maybe apple is optimizing software on a most recent hardware (haswell), but ignorant to test for other hardware. Not sure but this is really weird.

  • by thomas_r.,Helpful

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Nov 20, 2013 11:27 AM in response to findik
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    Nov 20, 2013 11:27 AM in response to findik

    Do not make the mistake of thinking that the fact that memory is full means that your problems are due to memory. Since Mavericks does its best to keep memory full, that's not a useful observation. It's rather like noticing that a person with a cold has ears, and assuming that the ears are related to the cold. Because many other people make the same error, you will find many people claiming to have memory problems when they actually are not.

     

    As I said, take a look at my Mac Performance Guide, which I gave you a link to earlier. That will help you with your performance problems, or will at least give you more information to come back here with for further assistance.

  • by findik,Helpful

    findik findik Nov 20, 2013 3:15 PM in response to thomas_r.
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    Nov 20, 2013 3:15 PM in response to thomas_r.

    OK, thanks for the link! Very useful.

  • by tjekov38-BG,

    tjekov38-BG tjekov38-BG Dec 22, 2013 4:33 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Dec 22, 2013 4:33 AM in response to thomas_r.

    OK. Fine. But that's not happend !!!   Mavericks working so slowly  after 2-3 hours . My iMAC 8.1 have 8Gb RAM. After 2 hours 1,5 Gb !!! Any app working slowly ! Sorry for my bed English but You anderstand me.

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Dec 22, 2013 6:50 AM in response to tjekov38-BG
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    Dec 22, 2013 6:50 AM in response to tjekov38-BG

    If Mavericks is slow, see the Mac Performance Guide I gave a link to previously. Seeing your RAM filling up is not an indicator of memory problems. If you're having memory problems, that page will tell you how to diagnose it.

  • by Tommy Moore,

    Tommy Moore Tommy Moore Jan 25, 2014 10:14 AM in response to findik
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    Jan 25, 2014 10:14 AM in response to findik

    Having the same performance issue w/ Mavericks. 6GB used at restart, ups to 16GB and memory compression goes into yellow.... hear swap drive activity.

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jan 25, 2014 10:28 AM in response to Tommy Moore
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    Jan 25, 2014 10:28 AM in response to Tommy Moore

    Tommy Moore wrote:

     

    Having the same performance issue w/ Mavericks. 6GB used at restart, ups to 16GB and memory compression goes into yellow.... hear swap drive activity.

     

    You would be better off starting your own topic, rather than tacking onto the end of a topic that has been inactive for a month.

     

    However, the quick and easy answer is that, if your memory pressure graph is getting high and going into the yellow, you do not have sufficient physical RAM for the tasks you're trying to perform with your computer.

  • by findik,

    findik findik Jan 25, 2014 11:15 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Jan 25, 2014 11:15 AM in response to thomas_r.

    well, he says that he has 16 gb but still having issues. I appreciate your responses but and understood using all memory is not a bad thing rather than using hd etc, but at the end the computer has to perform better or at least the same as ML. This is not the case. I am still seeing, as the 16gb filles up, no memory pressure etc, but computer slows down, seeing turning wheels etc, restart everything is back to normal. So in principle yes good idea, but in practice Mavericks is not functionaning properly as it is. I dont care whatever the reason it is. And my computer is only 1 year old and the higherst end, there is no better than this laptop in the Mac series I mean.

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jan 25, 2014 1:52 PM in response to findik
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    Jan 25, 2014 1:52 PM in response to findik

    If you're not having high memory pressure, the problem isn't memory-related. I would imagine you have some third-party software installed that is not compatible with Mavericks. Did you follow all the steps in the Mac Performance Guide I referred you to, and what did you find?

  • by findik,

    findik findik Jan 29, 2014 8:51 PM in response to thomas_r.
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    Jan 29, 2014 8:51 PM in response to thomas_r.

    I did. Mainly 3 software is triggered to be opened at the start: totalfinder, hyperdock, and vitamin-r. Most recent software was totalfinder so I thought that was it. However, in another mac I open the same and there is no gradual increase, like 8 gb total, I opened word, ppt, pdf, safari, totalfinder, hyperdock, and vitamin-r , these are the only programs I use everyday, so it uses 6.6gb ram and stays same. However, this one (16gb), currently 11.90gb. Now, this one I bought from ebay from a company refurbished with lots of pre-installed company-based software like adobe etc. Company backrupted and was selling the computers. However I dont open or use this software, so I think they should not cause any problems. The software were installed under their admin rights.

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jan 30, 2014 4:23 AM in response to findik
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    Jan 30, 2014 4:23 AM in response to findik

    Now, this one I bought from ebay from a company refurbished with lots of pre-installed company-based software like adobe etc.

     

    That's likely the problem, then. There's probably all kinds of stuff left running in the background on that machine, even if you're not using the software it's associated with. When you buy a used machine, you should always erase the hard drive and reinstall a fresh new system, since you don't really know what's been done to the current system. It could have malware on it, for all you know. That's probably what I would recommend doing now... erase it and copy just your data files back from the backup. See:

     

    How to reinstall Mac OS X from scratch

  • by findik,

    findik findik Jan 30, 2014 9:56 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Jan 30, 2014 9:56 AM in response to thomas_r.

    well, it came with very good legitimate software, so I did not want to loose adobe software. Not sure I want to reinstall, is there a way to reinstall software that came with it?

  • by Network 23,

    Network 23 Network 23 Jan 30, 2014 10:42 AM in response to findik
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    Jan 30, 2014 10:42 AM in response to findik

    The best way to reinstall is always from the original discs or original downloaded installers, with your registration information/serial numbers in hand to enter when asked. You have these, right?

     

    Just having the software on the computer doesn't mean the software is yours. Typically when you buy a computer that has software on it, you must also make sure the previous owner has legally transferred the registration/ownership info for the software to you. If this hasn't happened, the previous owner still owns the software, in the eyes of the software company. If you were not provided the original media and not even provided the serial numbers, you may not have the ability to reinstall at all. And if you try to upgrade the software you "bought" along with the computer, the software company may not grant you an upgrade discount if the software serial number is still registered under the old owner's name.

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