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Apple TV 3 Bad Streaming Quality

I have been streaming Netflix with my Apple TV 3 and, more often then not, the quality is horrible and blurry. I have checked my Wifi signal streangth in the Apple TV's setting and I have full bars. Then I checked my internet speed using both my Macbook and my iPhone (www.speedtest.net) while standing next to the Apple TV I consistenly get [>20Mbps Down] and [>4Mbps Up] and [~17ms Ping]. When I stream Netflix with my Macbook Pro I stream in HD without any problems.


As far as I know I have no way of running a speed test directly with my Apple TV so I have to assume that since my laptop and phone are getting sufficient bandwidth for HD streaming and the Apple TV has full signal strength, that there is some other problem here that I am not experienced enough to see.


Any suggestions? Are there any network settings that could be contributing to this that only affect Apple TVs and not Apple's Laptops or Phones?



Possibly relevant information:

Comcast internet with wireless N combo modem/router

Apple TV runnnig at most current update (as of 11/20/2013)

Speed Tests done using Macbook Pro Retina (late 2013 model)

Speed Test done using iPhone 5S

Apple TV (3rd generation)

Posted on Nov 20, 2013 8:31 AM

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Posted on Nov 23, 2013 3:10 PM

Hey jc - I have the same problem. A little history here. I recently as two months ago I watched every episode of Breaking Bad on Netflix on my Apple TV 3. No hickups, beautiful (which I would call HD) quality no problems every episode perfect. Same with Battlestar Galactica a month or two prior to that.


Now since last couple to three weeks I cannot stream ANYTHING in any decent quality.


So for me what has changed - Comcast upgraded my old Cable modem from a DOCSIS 2 to a DOCSIS 3 modem with built in Wifi (which I dont use) and doubling my speed to 57Mb download. This is the only major change to my environment which EXACTLY coincides with the drop in quality on my Apple TV 3.


Interestingly my Apple TV 2 works perfect. All my devices are hard wired on Gig network links usually to a hub/swicth then off to the cable modem which has 4 ports built in.

I tested by direct connecting my Apple TV 3 to the back of my cable modem and still had horrible quality.

I ran the streaming test movie and it started out at 5800kb for 5 seconds looked awesome - then it kicked down to 275kb and looked like garbage. Very frustrating.


I got the Apple TV 3 to use in my home theater thinking it would be better than the verison 2. And it has been. Until now.


Not sure where to go with this but sure seems to me like it MAY be a comcast issue / cable modem issue. Seeing your post you may also have the same modem - mine is a TC8305C (Technicolor).


Everything else on my network is screaming fast. So maybe its something with Apple TV 3 communication through this particular cable modem/router. Firmware update?


I may try to turn off the router portion of the cable modem and revert that function back to my old router and see if that does anything interesting.


Let me know if you have found anything.

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Dec 14, 2013 10:35 AM in response to CoryArdilio

CoryArdilio wrote:


Someone mentioned setting the resolution to 720p on the ATV3, that did not do the trick for me. Someone else mentioned going to the Netflix website and adjusting the bandwidth or resolution there to high, that did not do the trick for me....


These suggestions don't fix anything. Netflix alone can provide a fix by updating their Apple TV app (yes, they write it, not Apple).


In the meantime - there are temporary solutions that sometimes work. If you get bad picture quality, try clicking out of Netflix and then back into the movie/show you wanted to watch. Sometimes you get lucky and HD "locks in". You may have to do this serveral times. You may even have to restart the Apple TV and that may temporarily lead to a high quality stream.


Yesterday, an episode of Mad Men started off terribly blurry (despite my 50 down internet). I clicked out of it, back in, nothing. I even had a "Netflix not available" error message serveral times. Then I restarted the Apple TV and then - miraculously - I got HD. Did this "fix" the problem? No. But at least I was able to watch 2 episodes in HD.

Dec 14, 2013 11:20 AM in response to jacenK

jacenK wrote:


"I'm" not the one having the problem- thus the whole reason of this discussion. If "I" was the one with the problem then 60 posts of other people having the same issues would not be within this stream. This issues seems to be with Netflix, SuperHD, and their Open Connect network.


You said "i ruled out it being a Apple TV3 issue". It's well established that the problem is not with Netflix or superHD. I don't know why you're talking about Open Connect.


I'm not on an Open Connect network but I can get Netflix superHD whenever I want, as long as I'm not using my ATV.

Dec 14, 2013 1:31 PM in response to jacenK

jacenK wrote:


http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28820834-Speed-Netflix-Comcast-does-not-support -HD-streaming~start=30


read away

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

In the first post the OP says there's a problem. In the sixth post the problem is resolved. Much of the rest of thread is a mixture of conspiracy theory and misinformation about network transit.


Read away:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5565870?start=0&tstart=0

Dec 14, 2013 2:17 PM in response to jacenK

Earlier in this thread, right after your Comcast assertion:


Hugh Kremer wrote:


IMHO, I can't see how it's a Netflix/Comcast issue. I have Comcast, and get Netflix in HD on my BluRay player and my SmarTV. But not on AppleTV.


Pretend I just said "In the first post the OP says there's a problem. In the sixth post the problem is resolved."


Ignoring my humourous asides regarding the thread what's your point in bringing it to our attention?

Dec 14, 2013 3:05 PM in response to jc1118

Same issue here. ATV3 using comcast wired directly to the router. Did video chat wi three Netflix reps, various restarts and such taking over an hour. Netflix blames my ISP and was desperate to convince me that since netflix is "different" that it is more demanding so the quality goes down. Sounds like malarkey. I get 15mbps download and 2mbps upload and all video quality from other sources is full hd. Using the sample video described only got 520 resolution. Btw, this only started about a month ago. Btw, Daniel at netflix was condescending and rude. Have been a netflix subscriber since the beginning. Likely to cancel now.

Dec 14, 2013 4:41 PM in response to bodosom

Hi bodosom,


I am the OP so I've been following this issue for a while. You say that by the 6th post the issue is resolved? I must have missed it, can you tell my how to fix the issue. Im getting sick up people posting that its not an ATV problem. Clearly these people just arent having the same issue, but are having some issue related to their internet connection or some other thing if they are seeing crapy streaming quality on all their devices. This thread is resereved for this partifucluar problem where only ATV3 seems to be affected. And from what I can tell there are a lot of us.

bodosom wrote:


I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

In the first post the OP says there's a problem. In the sixth post the problem is resolved. Much of the rest of thread is a mixture of conspiracy theory and misinformation about network transit.


Dec 14, 2013 5:36 PM in response to jc1118

jc1118 wrote:


Hi bodosom,


I am the OP so I've been following this issue for a while. You say that by the 6th post the issue is resolved?

jacenK posted a link to a dslreports thread about Netflix issues on Comcast. In the sixth post of that thread the OP said Comcast came out and eventually things were resolved. There was no mention of the ATV. Most of that thread was about various unrelated Comcast vs. Netflix issues.


It's almost a complete certainty at this point that the last update to the ATV Netflix client is responsible for the recent performance problems. We all hope it's fixed in the next release or perhaps a "hotfix". Those of us with alternate devices are using those (I use my TiVo) while some (many, most) others are having sucess using AirPlay which often sources the stream from a different CDN. In my case Limelight rather than Netflix. This can increase the bit-rate to HD or 4300 superHD.

Dec 14, 2013 6:32 PM in response to bodosom

Just to confirm that for me and my girlfriend, who both have Comcast and ATV3, and live in two different cities, ATV3 Netflix app only works in low quality steaming. In my case a quick switch to PS3 Netflix app or AirPlay using my iPhone reverted to HD. At my girlfriend place, who does't have a PS3, we just used AirPlay on her iPhone 4 (I have a 5s) and streaming was HD again. Note that in both cases we tried immediately after ATV3 + Netflix was having issues. That pretty much rules out Comcast. Again the culprit seems to be Netflix on ATV3, which prior to latest update was working fine.

Dec 14, 2013 6:38 PM in response to jc1118

My problems with Netflix HD streaming started the day after Thanksgiving. Before that, I had been getting extremely clear HD fron Netflix on my Apple TV 3, Sony Blu-Ray player, iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Pro.


Except for the MacBook Pro, which has an ethernet connection, all of the devices are getting Netflix over my WiFi network.


My ISP is Comcast, and I'm consistenlty getting download speeds of 55 MPS over WiFi with an AirPort Extreme router.


All other streaming video sources work fine on all my devices. These include Amazon Video on Demand, Hulu Plus, iTunes (video content I have purchased or rented but not downloaded to my computer), Smithsonian Channel, ABC, HBO Go, etc.


When I watch Amazon Video on my Blu-Ray player, it's showing connection speeds of 5 to 10 MPS and HD looks fine. But when I watch Netflix on the same Blu-Ray player, the connection speed drops to 1 MPS or lower, and the stream either freezes up, or it looks worse than standard definition and is unwatchable, or both.


On the ATV 3, I get a decent Netflix HD signal for the first 30 to 90 seconds, then it stops for a second, and the image becomes so blurry that it is not watchable. I'm not being an HD snob, either. It's worse than a really bad VHS tape made from a very old video source.


The problem seems to be a lot worse after 5:00 PM.


At first I assumed it must be my WiFi router or my cable modem, so I re-set both of them, as well as the Apple TV. It still looked terrible. Netflix even looked bad over LTE on my iPhone, which would seem to indicate that neither Comast nor my WiFi network were the cause of the problem.


So I called Netflix. The first guy I spoke with emailed me a link to their webpage with troubleshooting measures. I'd already found that page myself, and I'd tried all of the suggestions, and none of them worked. He told me that since Netflix streams their video differently than other services, it requires a consistent network speed. OK, I get that, but I have a consistent network speed that is a lot higher than Netflix requires.


I called Netflix again, and this time I was a little more persistent. The woman was polite, but her message was clear: "This is not a Netflix problem. It is either your home network or your ISP. Check your WiFi network again, and then call Comcast." I asked her how she could be so sure it wasn't a Netflix problem, and she said if it were, they would know about it from customer complaints. But of course, if they are refusing to believe the reports from customers like me and others who have commented here, they really have no way of knowing.


I called Comcast, and the support person was more helpful. He confirmed that my internet connection was fine.


One theory I have is that a lot of people bought devices that can stream Netflix during the holiday sales, and they signed up for Netflix's free trial, putting a big hit on the Netflix servers. Whatever it is, I'm convinced it's a Netflix problem.


For now, I'm using my iPhone to access Netflix. The signal still looks really bad at first, but if I move the progress bar button back and forth really fast, eventually I can get a decent HD signal. Once I have a good signal, I send it to my ATV using AirPlay.


This is not a satfisfactory fix, but it's OK for the short-term. If Netflix can't fix it fairly soon, I'll have to drop the streaming and just stick with their DVD/Blu-Ray service.

Dec 15, 2013 7:25 AM in response to bodosom

Ive been searching for a answer for this issue like everyone- i could care less if its a ATV, comcast, netflix, isp, etc issue- i just would like a honest fix and answer to why its happening. it seems everyone is just blaming everyone else.


The reason i brought attention to the outside post was for you to read more then a few posts, i started from page 1 and read through page 6. within that there are some answers (i feel) that make the most sense other then spending hours on the phone with people that act like they "have no idea why thats not working". I feel that the issue is through what is described as what Netflix is now using for their superHD singal.


Its not a ATV issue as if you restart netflix 5-9 times the HD singal holds on ATV. this is not a fix but has worked. If you could never get a HD singal- i would agree its a ATV issue. Also, watching on a hardwired internet connection that has nothing to do with ATV still does the same thing and give super super crappy singal- ONLY on netfix, not hulu, vimeo, youtube, amazon, etc

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