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Mavericks has ruined my Mac

I "upgraded" to mavericks a couple of weeks ago and like many many others have had serious problems with performance. The new OS has rendered the device virtually unusable.


Start-up - very slow to log in screen. Then very slow (5 minutes or more) to desktop. Lots of beachballs.


Click on menu in finder. Delayed drop down.


Drag a small file from the desktop to a finder window. Copy dialog!!! Like I was moving several gigs from my drive to an external.


So I throw up my hands, boot into recovery console, erase hard drive (even though I get errors saying live update not supported), then restore from Tiem Machine backup.


Result? Still very slow. I can only conlcude that this new OS is too much for my four year old Mac.


So I need to go back. The directions for doing so in this forum are ABSURD! Copy my user files and lots of other files manually to an external drive? The back up that drive? Then install Mountain Lion (from which disk? Last disk I have is a snow leopard upgrade).


I have owned Macs since 1985. Not kidding. This is unacceptable. Reminds me of why I hate Windows (machines run slowwwwlllyyy after a year or two and can't handle upgrades).


Any advice other than buy a new iMac would be appreciated!!

iMac (24-inch Mid 2007), OS X Mavericks (10.9), 4 gb ram

Posted on Nov 20, 2013 2:18 PM

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Nov 20, 2013 2:25 PM in response to geocip

Setup a genius bar appt. and they can help you roll your Imac back to your last OS.



In the future, the easy way around true easy no hassle roll-back (vs. time machine, which is involved and time consuming) is to always have an updated or week or so old CLONE of your internal HD.


You can boot from such a clone in case of HD failure or such an occurrence, or just install same (swap them) with the original HD.


using a free APP like SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner.


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Nov 20, 2013 3:50 PM in response to geocip

geocip if you are willing to perform a little troubleshooting you can probably fix what's wrong.


As you determined, restoring from a Time Machine backup will do nothing since it merely reinstalled everything that was already installed. Regressing to an earlier OS X version won't solve anything; it will just defer the effects of problems that already exist and will eventually need to be addressed. Buying a new Mac won't solve anything either, if you migrate apps and junk known to cause trouble. What's worse is that a new Mac will leave you unable to regress to an earlier version of OS X if that's what you decide to do.


If you would prefer to fix your problems now, search this forum for a place to begin troubleshooting, or reply here with your intentions.

Nov 20, 2013 4:23 PM in response to John Galt

John I am willing to do more troubleshooting. What I dont want to do is waste more of my time.


The iMac was running perfectly before the Mavericks install and was bad from the start with Mavericks. It has been so bad that any troubleshooting like opening the activity monitor or console takes minutes.


I am running a CPU monitor. With beachball spinning wildly both CPU's show less than 10%. No processes seem to be taking a lot of time or hd activity.


I've searched for solutions but most are obvious- reset PRAM, VRAM, repair disk permissions, all stuff an experienced Mac guy knows. I do not want to follow Macjacks advice (I am familiar with that post) because it sounds like a tremendous amount of work and a lot of risk for my data.


I read an Apple support page advising that restoring to a TM backup prior to Mavericks will take me back to Mountain Lion. Other posters say this doesn't work. Which is true? I can obviously try it but it takes 5 hours to restore so I'd like to know it works.


What troubleshooting steps should I take to ferret out any culprit apps?

Nov 20, 2013 4:48 PM in response to geocip

If you boot OS X Recovery and select "Restore from Time Machine Backup" it will definitely work.


Select the backup created immediately prior to upgrading and it will restore your Mac as if you never upgraded. The version number will be shown (e.g. 10.8.5 and a build number similar to the following screenshot).


User uploaded file


Connecting your Mac to the Time Capsule or LAN with an Ethernet cable will ensure the restore will complete in the minimum possible time. If you're using an external hard disk (not a Time Capsule) it will already be as fast as possible.


Once restored, you can run EtreCheck and post its results if necessary, to help determine what corrective action should be taken prior to upgrading. You can do that now, unless your Mac has already become so slow it's impractical to do so.


One step you did not mention is to perform anSMC reset. It is justified for a number of reasons including poor performance that can't be explained any other way. Don't expect a miracle but it is harmless enough to try. Be sure to read the procedure carefully and follow all the steps exactly as written, even if they seem inapplicable or trivial.

Nov 21, 2013 11:56 AM in response to John Galt

Thanks for all of your replies. Last night I tried to look for programs/apps etc that were not compatible with mavericks but the machine was unusable. Tried to rest the SMC as noted earlier and could not get past the spinning gear on the apple logo screen.


Rebooted into recovery console, checked disc for errors again, no problems found. Did need to repair a half dozen permissions. Then recovered the last TM backup prior to Mavericks. Went to bed.


Woke up to a new machine. Even though spotlight was indexing and TM was backing up the iMac was behaving normally. No beach balls. No hangs.


I will now purge my system of unneeded and incompatible software in case I am ever tempted to try the Mavericks update again!

Dec 8, 2013 1:53 PM in response to John Galt

i'm posting because I am annoyed when others don't close out issues.


After my reversion to Mountain Lion, things were fine, but I decided to run etrecheck in advance of trying Mavericks again. This time I found a couple of old unneeded daemons and agents, but more important discovered that my HD was failing (SMART test). I then ran disk utility, same result.


I made a Genius Bar appointment to replace the drive as I don't want the hassle of dismantling my 6 year old iMac. I was quite surprised when the tech scanned my bar code and informed me that my machine is "too old" for Apple to repair. I was more than a bit miffed since I had made the appointment expressly to switch the drive and gave them my system info. To his credit though he gave me the name of a local guy who does these repairs.


After replacing my drive with a 2TB WD drive, and adding 2GB ram (total now 6) this computer runs Mavericks just fine and performs as well as ever. If I had to guess, my issues were likely due to a failing drive and a resulting imperfect install.


By the way, a clean install of Mavericks followed by a TM restore through Migration Assistant worked flawlessly.


I hope those who still have problems take a close look at your hardware before giving up.


for completeness, I have a mid 2007 27" iMac, core duo processor, 2 tb drive, 6 gb ram.

Dec 8, 2013 3:39 PM in response to geocip

Thanks for the update. No one likes to learn their hard disk needs replacement, but the Apple Genius did you a favor by referring you to a repair shop. They probably charged much less than Apple would have.


Hard disks are wear items, and it's not unusual to expect replacement after six years. With a Time Machine backup, a potential disaster becomes merely an inconvenience plus a little expense.

Dec 14, 2013 4:00 PM in response to geocip

For the benifit of others experiencing this problem, - I too "upgraded" from snow leapard to Maverics and it made my ~5year old iMac unusable. Very slow doing anything. Apparently apple forgot to make Mavericks compatible with Macs. After spending some time with Apple Support Chat they had me try some things and eventually told me to re-install Maverics OSX. This did not work, so don't waste your time. Stay tuned... I'm going to try the time machine restore also. I'll report back as to results....

Mavericks has ruined my Mac

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