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dfmamea Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I have a bunch of DVDs (okay, a couple hundred) with files on them — these are my current backup/archive. These were burned by a Powerbook G4, using Toast in Mac/Windoze–friendly file format, over a number of years.

 

I have bought a 2TB RAID that takes a heap less space than the DVDs. The RAID is Mac–formatted.

 

I thought all I had to do was throw the DVDs (one at a time, of course) into either/both the same Powerbook's slot-loading drive and/or a Firewire–connected Lacie Slim DVD +/- RW, and either drag–and–drop or copy–and–paste files from the DVDs to the RAID.

 

No such luck. When I try a drag–and–drop, the won't–allow symbol appears when I hover the files over either the Desktop or the destination drive. When I try a copy–and–paste to either the Desktop or the destination drive, I get the following message: “The items on the Clipboard cannot be pasted to this location. One or more of the items may have been deleted or are no longer available.”

 

I have so far:

  • repaired permissions via Disk Utility
  • rebooted, FSCK -FY–ed, and repaired permissions via Disk Utility
  • rebooted in Safe Mode
  • run Onyx
  • relaunched Finder
  • recreated the /tmp directory as per http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21161 (I had to follow the 10.2.8 Terminal instructions)
  • created a new Admin account to test if system–wide (it was)
  • repaired the disk via Disk Utility (using Target Disk mode and a Macbook) (no errors picked up)
  • run DiskWarrior (using Target Disk mode and a Macbook) (no errors picked up but rebuilt anyway)
  • done a full install of 10.4.11 (the Powerbook's previous OS — I upgraded to Leopard earlier this year)
  • done a full (re–)install of 10.5.8

 

After each of the above steps (and some of them have been done at least twice), the copy–paste problem has persisted.

 

Please can someone advise what else I can do.


PowerBook, Mac OS X (10.5.8), 1Gb
  • 1. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,465 points)

    Whew, good extensive work so far.

     

    Do you have both Read & Write permissions on the 2TB RAID?

     

    As a test, in Disk Utility, highlight the DVD, create a new DMG from the DVD... does that work? Does the DMG mount?

  • 2. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    dfmamea Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for your suggestions, BDAqua.

     

    Read & Write permissions for the 2TB RAID and the Desktop were already set to Read & Write for [user]. I have also tried copy–and–pasting (and drag–and–dropping) with permissions for “Everyone” and “Staff” also set to Read & Write. Problem persisted.

     

    I have used Disk Utility to create multiple New Images of the source DVDs with image formats set to ‘compressed’, ‘read/write‘ or ‘read–only‘… and yes, the DMGs mounted successfully, their contents were readable — however problem persists.

  • 3. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,465 points)

    Very strange!???

     

    Once the dmg is mounted, can you then copy them to that Hard Drive?

  • 4. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    dfmamea Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    You say “strange”, I say #@$%ing machines!

     

    DMGs were created via Disk Utility:

    • they mounted successfully
    • their contents could be read
    • but their contents could not be copy–pasted or drag–dropped anywhere.
  • 5. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,465 points)

    And the /tmp direcrory is there & an Alias to /private/tmp ?

  • 6. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    dfmamea Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I don't know how to look for those directories, so I did a Terminal —

     

    ls -la / | grep tmp

     

    — and got this:

     

    lrwxr-xr-x@  1 rootadmin    11 17 Nov 18:11 tmp -> private/tmp

     

    Since this was not the expected reply (per http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21161), I did —

     

    sudo ln -s /private/tmp /tmp

     

    — and entered the administrator password with no problems or error messages experienced.

     

    In the same session, I did another

     

    ls -la / | grep tmp

     

    — and (still) got this:

     

    lrwxr-xr-x@  1 rootadmin   11 17 Nov 18:11 tmp -> private/tmp

     

    For the heck of it, I ran a Disk Utility Repair Permissions, then replicated the above Terminal commands.

  • 7. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,465 points)

    Those are the same as I get here...

     

    ls -la / | grep tmp

    lrwxr-xr-x@   1 root  admin          11 Mar 21  2013 tmp -> private/tmp

     

    Show hidden files in OSX Finder

     

    Open the Terminal and type or copy/paste:

     

    defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles -bool true

     

    Reverting to the default of NOT showing hidden files:

     

    defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles -bool false

     

    *Restart or Force Quit Finder required to take effect.*

     

    http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/developer/hiddenfiles.html

     

    http://www.burobjorn.nl/blog/?p=96

     

    Finder Force Quit, or restart required to take effect.

     

    Can you create a new folder in the Finder & copy files there?

     

    To find out if it's system wide or user specific, try this...

     

    Open System Preferences>Accounts, unlock the lock, click on the little plus icon, make a new admin account, log out & into the new account.

     

    Does it work to dopy in the new account?

     

    Oh, is the Desktop Locked? (red arrow)

    GetInfoLoced&Lock.jpg

  • 8. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    dfmamea Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    No luck unfortunately, BDAqua.

     

    Did the following:

     

    1.  Show hidden files

     

    Did the terminal command as above.

     

    Force Relaunched Finder.

     

    All the hidden files appeared.

     

    The root directory had a /tmp shortcut which pointed to /private/tmp.

     

    Created a new folder (“untitled folder”) on the Desktop and —

     

      • could copy or move random text files already on the Powerbook's HD to the new folder;

     

      • could not copy–paste or drag–drop files from DVD to the new folder.

     

    2. Set up new user account

     

    Created a new user account (“test”) with Administrator privileges.

     

    Switched to the new user account.

     

    Created a new folder (“untitled folder”) on the Desktop and —

     

      • could copy or move newly–generated text files from the Desktop to the new folder;

     

      • could not copy–paste or drag–drop files from DVD to the new folder.

     

    3. Check Desktop info

     

    Navigated to user root directory.

     

    Selected Get Info for Desktop folder:

     

      • Desktop folder is not locked;

     

      • Sharing & Permissions privileges for [user] were already set to Read & Write;

     

      • changed the Sharing & Permissions privileges for ‘Everybody‘ from Read Only to Read & Write;

     

      • Force Relaunched Finder.

     

    Could copy or move files around HD but could not copy files from DVD to HD.

  • 9. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,465 points)

    OK, good work, seems it almost has to be rights on the DVD end... I forget, have we done a Get Info on the DVD or files/folders on it?

     

    Could the DVDs be encrypted? How exactly/with what did you burn them?

  • 10. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    dfmamea Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    The DVDs were burned with Toast as Data discs formatted to be readable by both Mac and PC. They're not encrypted.

     

    A Get Info on a sampling of the DVDs show that both the discs’ and their contents’ privileges are set to Read & Write for the ‘[user] (Me)’, and Read Only for ‘Staff’ and ‘Everyone’.

  • 11. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,465 points)

    Any chance we're dealing with a Case Sensitive<-> Case Insensitive issue here?

     

    Do you know how to try to copy files in Terminal?

  • 12. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    dfmamea Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Case Sensitive <—> Case Insensitive: I have no idea, sorry. For what it’s worth, the Powerbook's HD is formatted “Mac OS Extended (Journaled)”.

     

    I successfully copied all files from one DVD via Terminal as follows:

    1. opened Terminal window
    2. typed “cp ”
    3. drag–dropped a file on the DVD to the Terminal window (a green ‘+‘ symbol appeared!) whereupon the long path– and file–name appeared in the Terminal window
    4. drag–dropped a folder (“untitled folder”) from the Desktop to the Terminal window whereupon its corresponding path– and file–name appeared in the Terminal window
    5. pressed ‘Return’ button
    6. when the “[USER]: ~ [user]:” prompt appeared, repeated steps 2.–5. above for all remaining files on the DVD.

     

    After the above Terminal session, I tried drag–dropping and copy–pasting from the same DVD to a new Desktop folder (“untitled folder 2”) but with no success.

     

    Emboldened, I inserted another DVD and copied its contents via Terminal as follows:

    1. opened Terminal window
    2. typed “cp ”
    3. highlighted all files on DVD and drag–dropped this selection in the Terminal window
    4. drag–dropped a folder (“untitled folder 2”) to the Terminal window
    5. pressed ‘Return’ button

    — and HOT **** it worked.

     

    Because the Powerbook HD is a measly 80GB, I have also successfully cp–ed files from the DVD straight to the relevant 2TB RAID directory.

     

    I can work with this for now — thank you, BDAqua.

     

    Not to be ungrateful but… Any idea why the command line works but the upper–level–thingie doesn't? And how I could fix it? (Doing stuff in Terminal makes me nervous.)

  • 13. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (116,465 points)

    Great work, good to hear!

     

    From all my research, seems Finder has bugs in some versions, especially with some forms of ISO-9660, SMB, & other file systems.

     

    I doubt there's anything you can do, unless it's possibly some 3rd party extension involved & interfering.

     

    But the cp command in Terminal is pretty safe to use.

  • 14. Re: Unable to copy–and–paste files from DVD to anywhere
    dfmamea Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Again: thanks heaps for all your help

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