FCP 6 and Mavericks

The issue is that FCP 6 needs Rosetta to install, but 10.7/8/9 do not include it.

I installed 10.6, than installed FCP 6, than upgraded my system.

I am currently running 10.8 with FCP, I have not yet upgraded to 10.9 - but I have read that it works just the same. (a few minor bugs)

I upgraded to FCP X last summer. I had been loving it until last November whan I upgraded to Mavericks and F-ed everything up - but that's another story. My FCP 6 has worked perfectly right along. But now Mavericks has so deeply compromised my computer that everyone in recommending a completely clean install of a new system on a clean drive. I have come to terms with the week or more it will take to get everything re-installed, but I still don't know how to install FCP 6 from my original DVD in Mavericks. Some posts above alluded to a process using the Termminal - THAT is what I need to know. If I can find those instructions before I wipe clean and start over, it would help me a lot.

Please advise.

Thanks

You will have much difficulty with installing FCP 6 and Mavericks. It can be done, but...

Why not keep the current drive to run FCP 6 in Mavericks and do a clean install of Mavericks for everything else in the new hard drive; and "dual-boot" as needed?

Then once you are able to freshly install FCP 6 in Mavericks, you can wipe the old Mavericks drive. You will have continued access to FCP 6 as needed until you are successful with its new installation.

The current drive has to go. It's just too compromised by generations of upgrades and unknown ghosts. I have an old system on on of my other internal drives that I can use for FCP 6 in a pinch. But that's a super inconvenient workaround, not a sustainable working mode. I just need the instructions to install FCP6 in Mavericks.

Later on I will find it and post it, but if you need it now:

Search for Jeremy Johnstone's blogpost on Final Cut Pro either on this forum or Google...

Here it is:

http://www.jeremyjohnstone.com/blog/2012-03-11-installing-final-cut-pro-studio-2 -0-on-mac-os-x-10-7-lion.html

Ignore the comments about attempting to install Rosetta on Lion (nee Mavericks)...

Look for a comment in summer 2012 that details installation of the remaining discs of FCS2.

I highly suggest that if you want to use FCP 6, you run it on an OS that supports it. Mavericks does not. FCP 6 is 6 years old, nearly 7 years old. That's ancient in computer years. Old software like that, and new OS like Mavericks, that was written with zero consideration taken for FCP 7, much less FCP 6, don't mix.

There are reasons that many companies stick to running old OS versions on their computers and servers...because the software they rely on most won't work on the new OS versions. So you'll fine machines still running Windows 7...Vista...heck, even Windows XP! A lot of companies aren't upgrading to Windows 8...and companies like HP are even starting to offer machines with older Windows 7 installed, instead of 8...because of the demand for the older versions. Apple never does this...never looks back. And doesn't care that software that's 7 years old will work or not...they want you to use FCX.

So if you want to use FCP 6 on your computer...run an older OS. One that was released closer to when it came out. Snow Leopard, for example. Trying to hack your way to installing software on the new OS, when it might not even work properly, is a waste of time...IMHO. Talk about a super-inconvenient work around. It's VERY easy to either partition your internal drive into multiple boot drives, each with a different OS, or separate drives if you have a MacPro...than it is trying to get old software to function properly on unsupported OS versions.

Shane, you expound upon an interesting proposition. I am curious how much of it is theory and how much of it is practice?

Of the 100% of the time that you use Final Cut Pro, what percentage of the time since YOU upgraded to Mavericks have you used FCP 6 and what percentage of the time have you used FCP X (the sum of these two numbers does not have to equal 100% if you use other versions)?

Your second paragraph is mostly an analogy to Microsoft's Windows operating system: a completely different operating system based upon different theories of operation by a completely different company. It is kind of like comparing Oranges with Apples, don't you think?

While it seems logical to state that:

Apple never does this...never looks back. And doesn't care that software that's 7 years old will work or not...they want you to use FCX.

The fact of the matter is that many examples of Universal software written for Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 or Leopard 10.5 continues to work in Mavericks as can be seen be reviewing this chart:

http://roaringapps.com/apps?index=a

The problem is that you try to answer a specific with a generalization: Yes, of course, it is always best to upgrade any software to its most recent version (so long as it continues to support those features that you need) and always best to run older versions of software in the version of the operating system that existed when the older version of the software was released. But that begs the question for mwgray!

He notes that he uses both FCP X and FCP 6. Obviously he has determined that he must continue to utilize a dual track of operating FCP based upon HIS needs!

So really, the only relevant question for him, is how well FCP 6 works in Mavericks. Entering "final cut studio pro 2 mavericks" into Google, this thread was the first link to come up:

http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1179121

Interestingly, the following post was submitted in answer to the OP's question: "Good day. I'm curious if anyone's tried running FCS6 in Mavericks. I haven't upgraded yet, but am holding off to see if I should. Thanks for your help!"

Hi Shane,

I have just updated my ageing 2009 Mac Book Pro to Mavericks.

As it goes i have an old install of Final Cut Studio 2 on there.

I am pleased to tell you that FCP6 does in fact work fine although some of the plug ins did not.

After updating and on first launching the application it would hang while attempting to load Boris Continuum Shaders making it then "Quit Suddenly" while still on the loading splash screen.

After uninstalling BCS plug ins however it all now works fine.

I haven't tested it thoroughly as i don't really use it anymore, however just for you and in the name of science i opened up a pre existing project, made a new sequence, set in and out points on some footage, dragged it to the timeline. Bladed it, trimmed it, added a cross dissolve, rendered some colour correction and exported a ProRes 422 Quicktime successfully, all of which is fairly conclusive i would say.

There you go!

Steve.

It seems that "Steve" is responding to YOU and virtually the same theoretical concerns you posted back in October, 2013! Of all of the follow-up posters to Steve and others, none of them was YOU!

So, the relevant question remains, Shane, what is your experience with working with FCP 6 in Mavericks; or do you just continue to restate your theoretical concerns even the face of the experience of others, who have responded directly to you, that it works fine (absent some plug-in problems that are enumerated)?

I would not normally go to such lengths in this thread, except for the fact that mwgrayhas specifically reiterated that he is just looking for the Terminal instructions on how to install FCP6 in Mavericks. He has made it clear that he wants to run FCP6 in Mavericks and your reposting of old concerns will only serve to confuse others who read this thread. He really has rendered the totality of your post moot for his wants and needs...

Otherwise, your post is well written and you should be continued to be thanked for speaking up on the various FCP issues that I have seen you post on this forum in other threads!

There you go!

Michael 😉

I have an old version of Photoshop CS that won't install on my new computer. I have kid art programs that won't install on the new iMac that I got for them. They were released when Leopard came out, worked on the older computer, won't work on the one running Lion.

I have hacked various other apps in order to get them to work on later OS versions, and they've never worked 100%. Do I specifically use FCP 6? No. Am I running Mavericks...no. Do I see lots of people on this and other forums who have issues installing FCP 6/7 on Mavericks, and do they also report all sorts of issues? Yes. Does EVERYONE that attempts this have issues? No....and that can be for a variety of factors. What other software/system utilities do they have installed that might interfere with this? What aspect of the app do they use that no longer works...that the people who have no issues don't use, therefor they don't see the issues?

Are there older apps that don't work on newer versions of OSX? Yup. Windows? Yup.

Are there hacks that allow them to work? Sure...are they 100% foolproof? Hardly.

I'm just offering the best solution for the situation...stick to older OS versions that are designed for your software. This means that you might need to continue to use your old machine with that old app. There'll be little to no benefit to using that old app on the new computer, other than only needing to have one computer on your desk.

I am offering a solution to those who are frustrated with trying to get the software to install...and who can't. Or when it is installed, it doesn't work properly. People have tried the hack that you link to and have not gotten it to work (posts on the Creative Cow...no, I am not going to search for them).

And "back in Oct 2013" isn't that long ago. The same OS and same computers were around then...

Instead of using the Terminal, would it not be a lot easier to use Pacifist?

http://www.charlessoft.com

Shane Ross wrote:

Do I specifically use FCP 6? No. Am I running Mavericks...no.

Hence the rest of your post is irrelevant to the current discussion for mwgray!

Shane Ross wrote:

And "back in Oct 2013" isn't that long ago. The same OS and same computers were around then...

How long ago is that in "computer years!?"

MlchaelLAX wrote:

Shane Ross wrote:

Do I specifically use FCP 6? No. Am I running Mavericks...no.

Hence the rest of your post is irrelevant to the current discussion for mwgray!

Michael...do YOU use FCP 6 under Mavericks? How about FCP 7. Do you use FCP at all?

I am not the one recommending to mwgray! that he ONLY use FCP 6 in Snow Leopard and not in Mavericks...

I am very experienced with using FCP, and what versions work with what OS. I've been using it since FCP 2. You have not. You haven't used FCP at all...nor do you currently. So you have zero experience with the software, and how it handles under any OS, must less under unsupported OS's. I do have past experience in trying to get older FCP working on newer OS versions, because of computers I bought only came with the new OS. And I have experience trying to get friend's computers and older versions working.

Practical experience.

You have a great knowledge of the OS...I'll give you that. But that knowledge doesn't mean much when you don't have any real experience with the applications you are trying to help with. You deal in theory, I deal in reality. Sure, I haven't had specific experience with FCP 6 and Mavericks...but I have with FCP 6 and Mountain Lion. And previous versions.

If people want good, solid, working software, it is best to use it on computers and OS versions that it was designed for. Tell me I'm wrong.

And do you offer any of your OWN solutions? Nope...you point to a blog that someone else wrote about this. Yes, that hack does work for many things, but it isn't fool-proof.

I use editing applications for a living...I still use FCP to earn a buck. Because of that, I don't "hack" anything and hope it will work. I use it on supported systems and OS versions, and will continue to recommend that others do as well, especially on the offical Apple forums. It's the professional solution.

Although I to know that many FCP users might not be "professional," using FCP to earn a buck. Still, I offer solutions I know to be solid. Always have, always will.