TwisterDC

Q: Why is my "other" space on my iPhone 5 / iOS 7 so large and always growing?

I have seen this question posted a lot but I don't believe I've ever seen Apple post a definitive response.  If there is one official definitive response on how to keep this from happening and I missed it sorry. 

 

I have the same problem it seems many are having.  I have an iPhone 5 with 16 GB running iOS 7.0.4.  As soon as I upgraded to iOS 7, I started seeing a lot of my space being taken up by "other".  It was up to about 4-5 GB as I recall, which is ridiculous especially for a phone advertised with 16 GB. 

 

The only remedy I could find that did anything was to restore my phone from scratch, which is a pain in the -ss, but I did it anyway.  Initially that seemed to work and I was in the hundreds of MB of "other" for a while. 

 

Today, about 2 weeks later, I went sync and to my amazement it was up again to 2 GB of "other".  I synced it and then it grew to 2.52 GB.  ***? 

 

I am on iTunes 11.1.3 on Mac if that makes any difference.

 

Is there a definitive fix or something different I can do for this recurrning problem?  Obviously I cannot keep restoring my iPhone once ever week or two to recapture disk space.  I hardly use my phone for the apps (use my iPad for most of that) so it's not like I am doing a bunch of complicated apps with large data sets.

 

Update: I synced it again and now it went up to 2.53 GB. 

 

Is there a fix for this?  It is getting old having to delete all my music to make room for all this.

iPhone 5, iOS 7.0.4, Recurring problem for iOS 7.0.x

Posted on Nov 25, 2013 10:46 AM

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Q: Why is my "other" space on my iPhone 5 / iOS 7 so large and always growing?

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  • by mjv45,

    mjv45 mjv45 Jul 20, 2014 7:35 AM in response to fredrik.motin
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    Jul 20, 2014 7:35 AM in response to fredrik.motin

    Try going to voice mail messages; clicking on deleted messages; clicking clear all.  I was surprised to see so many old messages still on the list.

  • by ishrocker,

    ishrocker ishrocker Jul 22, 2014 12:50 PM in response to TwisterDC
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:50 PM in response to TwisterDC

    I quite frequently have had this problem over the years.  The other portion of my phone grows with every sync of my phone to iTunes.  There comes a point where it takes up the majority of the space on my iPhone, making the device near unusable. 

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    When it grows to this extent is usually cased by an error during the syncing process.  Any information iTunes can't reconcile during the syncing process is saved out of sight, out of mind, in the 'other' section.

     

    You will never be able to see or recover this section unless you are very savvy and know how to poke around the archived iPhone back-up on your computer.  (if you are thinking of trying, stop.  It will not be worth your time and effort, or if using third party software, the money or spyware associated with it *cough* iTools *cough*).

     

    The only fix I have found that works is to back up your phone to iTunes, and preform a 'restore'.  This erases the content of your phone, and restores it to factory settings.

     

    resore.png

    That is you phone will be as if you took it fresh out of the box.  You can preform a restore from back-up through iTune, or iCloud to get your content back. 

     

     

     

    newiphone.png

    Lo and behold your have trimmed the mystery meat.

     

    mysterymeat.png

     

     

    What other posters have said is true.  The other section can have temporary files, that you can trim using various applications, or deleting iMessage and text threads, but you will never be able to find where those gigs of storage went, if your 'other' problem is due to a syncing.

  • by orangebuckeye,

    orangebuckeye orangebuckeye Jul 22, 2014 1:38 PM in response to ishrocker
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    Jul 22, 2014 1:38 PM in response to ishrocker

    Thanks for the reply ishrocker. I like the detail for which you laid out and thanks for the screenshots.

     

    However, in my experience (granted I did this awhile ago), but from what I recall, when I re-store from backup, it just puts the phone right back in the state of the backup.  So yes, I get my "good" content that I obviously want to keep, but I also get the "bad" content (all the problems) along with the backup.  So the problem is still there....

  • by ishrocker,

    ishrocker ishrocker Jul 22, 2014 1:45 PM in response to orangebuckeye
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    Jul 22, 2014 1:45 PM in response to orangebuckeye

    Thank you for the reminder.  I just had to preform a restore today.  If you do restore from a back-up where you had the 'other' problem, you will be right back where you started.  I recovered the majority of my information by Syncing and not restoring from back-up.  I will edit post to reflect this.

  • by ishrocker,

    ishrocker ishrocker Jul 22, 2014 1:47 PM in response to ishrocker
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    Jul 22, 2014 1:47 PM in response to ishrocker

    apparently the forum will no longer allow me to edit my post.  hopefully people read the whole thread

  • by jnajdzion,

    jnajdzion jnajdzion Jul 22, 2014 6:25 PM in response to ishrocker
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    Jul 22, 2014 6:25 PM in response to ishrocker

    Hello ishrocker, I was able to read your last post and I am giving this a try right now, will keep you updated, but from what I understand, do not restore from backup but rather sync the information on correct?

  • by ishrocker,

    ishrocker ishrocker Jul 22, 2014 6:40 PM in response to jnajdzion
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    Jul 22, 2014 6:40 PM in response to jnajdzion

    That is correct.  Just please be sure that you have synced you information prior to restoring the phone to factory settings.  Save any important photos through iPhoto or your photo program of choice.  Syncing your phone after the factory reset should bring back the majority of information.  Please let me know how it works out for you.

  • by jnajdzion,

    jnajdzion jnajdzion Jul 22, 2014 7:17 PM in response to jnajdzion
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    Jul 22, 2014 7:17 PM in response to jnajdzion

    Hey ishrocker, that worked like a charm, I noticed when you first restore the iphone, you have to restore from a backup but I synced up my music manually rather then from the backup, I only have 1.11 other stuff, must be a shadow of music I have downloaded before, or sometimes music that is checked off my recently added goes away after a period of time and when I sync it up again, the recently added music goes away, but maybe it is leaving a shadow? But whatever, it worked and thanks!!

  • by orangebuckeye,

    orangebuckeye orangebuckeye Jul 23, 2014 4:11 AM in response to jnajdzion
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    Jul 23, 2014 4:11 AM in response to jnajdzion

    SI you did restore from backup, not set as factory new then sync?

  • by jnajdzion,

    jnajdzion jnajdzion Jul 23, 2014 7:16 AM in response to orangebuckeye
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    Jul 23, 2014 7:16 AM in response to orangebuckeye

    So what I did was this, I unchecked the sync music under my iphone, backed up, then restored to back up, which had no music, then checked sync music and synced only the music I wanted, brought it right down to 1.11 GB

  • by RaduKnu,

    RaduKnu RaduKnu Jul 23, 2014 8:21 AM in response to AppleTVguy
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    Jul 23, 2014 8:21 AM in response to AppleTVguy

    Those 2 Gb that you actually want back are used by the iOS on your device, you will get it back if you completely restore the device without installing any software, it can be used a cutting board after...

     

    Imagine a hard drive that has 320 Gb without OS, it will have 318 with OS u need it for the thing to work...

     

    A. Why do u want the space if u barely use it?

    B. Why didn't u buy a bigger device?

  • by TwisterDC,

    TwisterDC TwisterDC Jul 24, 2014 6:23 AM in response to RaduKnu
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    Jul 24, 2014 6:23 AM in response to RaduKnu

    Since I was the original posted I wanted to make a couple of comments, updates, and a summary from where I see things:

     

    1) To your point, the OS takes up about 3 GB right off the top.  Thus, a 16 GB iPhone 5 has a capacity of 13 GB. 

    2) The "Other" is not included in the 3 GB that the OS takes up

     

    I have used a variety of tools to recapture some of the temporary memory - browsing history, texting, call history, etc.  As I pointed out in one of my earlier posts, running a tool like PhoneClean only recaptured a few kilobytes of memory.  So, this is not it.

     

    This "Other" bug seems to have started with iOS 7.  It is a wonder that Apple is incapable or unwilling to fix this.  I agree with others that it probably has something to do with being remnants of syncing.  Something Apple should fix.

     

    Case in point my son has a 16 GB iPod 5 and all he does on it is play Minecraft and watch Youtube.  Yet he has 3 GB of "other".  It is nonsense.

     

    I have done a complete device reset of my iPhone 5 several times, restarting as a new device as many have suggested.  What happens here is that initially you will be below 1 GB of "Other" but within a few days it creeps back up to 3 GB or so.  A reset is only a temporary fix.

     

    Others have suggested "iTools" as a free tool that can give you insight into the junk that Apple is storing in your "Other" space.  I think this is interesting, and I'd like to be trusting, but I am afraid I cannot install executable freeware from China on my machine for obvious security risks.  So iTools is not an option for me as I am unable to take the risk of having malware on my laptop. 

     

    That's about all.  Clearly this is an Apple bug, and we are all wasting our time thinking and talking about it because clearly Apple does not give a $%%T.  The only options are

    1) Live with the reality that a 16 GB iPhone 5 is really a 9-10 GB iPhone 5.

    2) Buy a bigger iPhone when your contract is up. 

    3) Keep burning a half day of your life once a month, lose all your data and do a complete restore to gain back the memory on a temporary basis. Repeat.

    4) Try your luck with a competing product based on Android or (gulp) Windows. 

    5) Try your luck with iTools, taking into account the inherent security risks of installing freeware originating from the PRC. 

    6) Curse Apple. Short-sell the stock. Bang head on wall.  Pray that somewhere Steve Jobs is listening and Apple finally fixes this bug.  Bang head on wall, repeat.

  • by DJEclipselive,

    DJEclipselive DJEclipselive Jul 26, 2014 3:45 PM in response to TwisterDC
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    Jul 26, 2014 3:45 PM in response to TwisterDC

    Ok guys this is the solution the problem with other taken up to much space on iPhone after iOS update. When i did my update i saw that all my music was being transfer but when i went to check it on my phone it was not there, after checking on iTunes the storage in music was zero and the storage under other was 7 gigs this meant that the music was on the phone but not properly place for some reason. In order to solve this issue you must delete the music on the phone with a file desktop manager that gives access to your phones files ( You do not need to jailbreak). Step 1: download and install ifunbox (it is free) Step 2: click under Raw File System, Step 3: click on itunes_control (only iTunes_ might appear if the screen is not full), Step 4 click the music folder, Step 5: Deleate all the folders inside, each folder contains music. Step 6 Disconnect your iPhone and reconnect to iTunes. ****Trust me it works, after this you can delete the software if you like and continue use as usual. ****

  • by ishrocker,

    ishrocker ishrocker Jul 26, 2014 3:56 PM in response to DJEclipselive
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    Jul 26, 2014 3:56 PM in response to DJEclipselive

    I Haven't found an iPhone file management app for iPhone that doesn't have a reputation for trojans, and spyware what are malicious and hard to delete.

     

    A quick search reveals ifunbox is one of those apps.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Jul 26, 2014 5:47 PM in response to TwisterDC
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    Jul 26, 2014 5:47 PM in response to TwisterDC

    TwisterDC wrote:

     

    Since I was the original posted I wanted to make a couple of comments, updates, and a summary from where I see things:

     

    1) To your point, the OS takes up about 3 GB right off the top.  Thus, a 16 GB iPhone 5 has a capacity of 13 GB.

    2) The "Other" is not included in the 3 GB that the OS takes up

     

    This "Other" bug seems to have started with iOS 7.  It is a wonder that Apple is incapable or unwilling to fix this.  I agree with others that it probably has something to do with being remnants of syncing.  Something Apple should fix.

     

     

    1. Not quite. There is a difference between the spec of 16 GB base 10 and the way memory is reported on the phone in binary, where 1K = 1024 bytes, not 1,000 bytes. iOS takes about 1 GB, the rest of the difference is simply a different way of measuring the same capacity.

     

    2. This is true, but it DOES include iOS system data.

     

    The "Other" CHARACTERISTIC (it isn't a bug) started with iOS 1.0. If you go back 7 years in the forum you will find continuing discussions of "Other" from the very beginning. As already posted, "Other" is real data. Occasionally, Other includes data corruption, but for most people it is real data that they are using. The quiescent "Other" has grown over time as features have been added to the phone. For 1.0 it averaged around 200 MB, but then the phone didn't do much. 2.0 saw 300 MB, when it got to 3 it was around 500 MB. And so on. 7 on all of my devices (2 GB) is about the same as 6, which was only slightly larger than 5 (1.5 GB).  Other also gets larger as the capacity of the phone increases. This is because you use more of the capacity, and there is overhead with that usage. For example, each song on your phone that has cover art stores the image in Other. The music is not in Other, but the art is. And as you add songs the music catalog (database) grows, and that is in Other also.

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