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Can a Powerbook G4 have internal alterations?

I have a powerbook g4 10.5.8 (17") 1.67 GhZ and 1.5 GB DDR SDRAM

I want to know if the entire internal guts can be replaced so it can eventually accept Mavericks? I would like to keep the body but replace the internal organs...so to speak. I would like to increase memory too. Can this be done?

PowerBook, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Nov 26, 2013 6:28 AM

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Nov 26, 2013 10:18 AM in response to 1Prophet

You are right, I'm not a tech which is why I'm asking. Still a one word answer is not telling me why the box, which is just a housing, can't have a new board installed. I'm not asking to make it like new ... just capable of doing better than it does now. Even Mountain Lion would be an improvement. However, if it can't be done, then in can't . A bit of civility would go a long way.

Nov 26, 2013 11:07 AM in response to 1Prophet

The main reason why is heat.


Most computers these days use a variety of cooling pads and cooling gel to make sure the CPU does not overheat. Alas, the same gel that can cool the machine down can if applied too much of become an insulator, and give the machine more heat. Apple's computers are finely tuned with the firmware telling it exactly what speed to give fans, and have certain venting systems to keep their notebooks from overheating. When those breaks we see people trying to monitor the internal heat and alter fan speeds with firmware fan control software. Unfortunately they could be speeding the demise of their machine. The G4 was not much cooler than today's CPUs. Apple has never released the internal temperature requirements of its computers, so these fan control programs are actually all based on guesswork. If you burn down your home because of trying to make a computer mod, don't say you weren't warned. I've seen pictures of iMac G5s actually scorched by their own heat when they were malfunctioning.


An older MacBook or MacBook Pro Core2Duo is a good machine to have around.

Note upgrading to Intel you should pay attention to this tip.

Nov 26, 2013 11:12 PM in response to 1Prophet

1Prophet wrote:


Wow... that was short and sweet! Can you expand how you know this? Are you an Apple Tech?

The G4 is 10 years old. Think about what that means in computer years. Now, the G4 case is larger than the MacBook Pro, so on a volume basis, sure you should be able to fit the guts of a Mavericks Mac into a G4 case. But just about every component on that board has changed in that 10 years to provide the dramatic increases in battery life and CPU power.


You can probably find the right Intel CPU, but then your next step is to integrate it with everything else and somehow put the right chip on it to let Mavericks actually install. The problem is that CPU will completely outclass everything else on the motherboard by 10 years, so you'll have to replace more parts, and more parts (RAM, GPU, interconnects, etc). Also the ports are in different places, so you will have to reroute connections and cover up the ports that are no longer supported.


So yes, you can do it, it is technically possible...but you are going to have to do it yourself. That means every little bit, every last piece. By yourself. Because nobody else is going to provide a ready-to-go Intel motherboard for that G4 case. Go ahead and look around on the Internet, you won't find one. If you want to try building your own Mavericks compatible motherboard, you will need every bit of technical expertise in laptop design that you possess from your years of experience in designing laptop internals. And if you don't possess that, you're sunk. It would be much more worth your while to just lay out a few hundred for a used MacBook Pro that runs Mavericks.


I understand what you are coming from. I have a PowerBook G4 that I loved. But when I put that PowerBook G4 next to a MacBook Pro, the PowerBook G4 case seems very oversized, too thick, too heavy. Try a MacBook Pro, the design is close enough to the G4 that you might prefer it more over time.

Can a Powerbook G4 have internal alterations?

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