Joe Seidler

Q: How Can I Improve Mavericks Performance (much slower than 10.8)?

When I upgraded to OS 10.9, I immediately saw a significant slower performance than with 10.8 or 10.7 (which I had been using for about two years). One big difference was a delay with the boot disc thrashing a lot when I started the computer and when I launched any app. That is, after starting my Mac Pro (2008), once the windows are all visible, there is a 30+ second delay (with the boot disc thrashing a lot) before it responds. A very similar thing happens when I launch any app. For example, when I launch iPhoto, after the photos appear, it takes 30+ seconds before it reponds to any mouse clicks. Under 10.7 and 10.8, there was about a 5 second delay (which I always thought was Faces doing its thing). This disc thrashing and delay before the app will respond happens with every app (Word, iMovie, Disc Utility, etc.) These delays never occured under 10.7 or 10.8.

 

A few people on the Apple Support forum suggested I run EtreCheck and remove various apps that they said could cause a problem with the OS. I removed every app they suggested, but I do not see any difference in performance. In my opinion, OS 10.9 has implemented something new that is causing my Mac Pro to run much slower.

 

I just ran a Safe Boot (using shift key while starting). I don't see any difference.

 

I would appreciate any advice.

 

EtreCheck Results:

 

Hardware Information:

          Mac Pro (Early 2008)

          Mac Pro - model: MacPro3,1

          2 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon CPUs: 8 cores

          8 GB RAM

 

Video Information:

          NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT - VRAM: 512 MB

 

Audio Plug-ins:

          BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0

          AirPlay: Version: 1.9

          AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0

          iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3

 

System Software:

          OS X 10.9 (13A603) - Uptime: 0 days 1:57:13

 

Disk Information:

          ST3750640AS P disk0 : (750.16 GB)

                    EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                    Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 749.3 GB (299.96 GB free)

                    Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

 

          ST31000340AS disk2 : (1 TB)

                    EFI (disk2s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                    Movies&DVDs (disk2s2) /Volumes/Movies&DVDs: 999.86 GB (140.99 GB free)

 

          ST31000340AS disk1 : (1 TB)

                    EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                    OS10.6 (disk1s2) /Volumes/OS10.6: 999.86 GB (882.64 GB free)

 

USB Information:

          Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

                    Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard

 

          NEC Corporation USB2.0 Hub Controller

                    Canon MX850 series

 

 

 

 

          Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

 

FireWire Information:

          Apple Computer, Inc. iSight 200mbit - 400mbit max

 

Thunderbolt Information:

 

Kernel Extensions:

 

Problem System Launch Daemons:

 

Problem System Launch Agents:

 

Launch Daemons:

          [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist

          [loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist

 

Launch Agents:

 

User Launch Agents:

          [loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist

          [loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

          [loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

 

User Login Items:

          iTunes

          Mail

 

3rd Party Preference Panes:

          Flash Player

          Flip4Mac WMV

          Growl

          Java

          Perian

 

Internet Plug-ins:

          AdobePDFViewer.plugin

          AdobePDFViewerNPAPI.plugin

          Default Browser.plugin

          Flash Player.plugin

          FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin

          Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin

          googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin

          JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

          npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin

          o1dbrowserplugin.plugin

          QuickTime Plugin.plugin

          RealPlayer Plugin.plugin

          Silverlight.plugin

 

User Internet Plug-ins:

          CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin.plugin

 

Bad Fonts:

          None

 

Time Machine:

          Skip System Files: NO

          Auto backup: YES

          Volumes being backed up:

                    Macintosh HD: Disk size: 749.3 GB Disk used: 449.33 GB

                    Movies&DVDs: Disk size: 999.86 GB Disk used: 858.87 GB

          Destinations:

                    Data [Network] (Last used)

                    Total size: 3 TB

                    Total number of backups: 79

                    Oldest backup: 2012-12-18 07:58:20 +0000

                    Last backup: 2013-11-30 01:06:05 +0000

                    Size of backup disk: Too small

                              Backup size 3 TB < (Disk used 1.31 TB X 3)

 

Top Processes by CPU:

              13%          mds

               1%          WindowServer

               1%          EtreCheck

               0%          ocspd

               0%          fontd

               0%          syncdefaultsd

               0%          aosnotifyd

 

Top Processes by Memory:

          549 MB             iTunes

          385 MB             mds_stores

          319 MB             com.apple.MediaLibraryService

          139 MB             com.apple.IconServicesAgent

          131 MB             Mail

          106 MB             com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

          82 MB              soagent

          82 MB              Safari

          74 MB              PhotoStreamAgent

          74 MB              WindowServer

 

Virtual Memory Statistics:

          3.56 GB            Free RAM

          3.38 GB            Active RAM

          265 MB             Inactive RAM

          821 MB             Wired RAM

          433 MB             Page-ins

          0 B                Page-outs

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Nov 29, 2013 6:25 PM

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Q: How Can I Improve Mavericks Performance (much slower than 10.8)?

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  • by Lanny,

    Lanny Lanny Nov 29, 2013 6:41 PM in response to Joe Seidler
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    Desktops
    Nov 29, 2013 6:41 PM in response to Joe Seidler

    Try turning off Time Machine as it appears your backup disk is too small.

     

    Your 13% mds seems to suggest that Spotlight indexing hasn't completed. Mine is 0.0%

  • by Joe Seidler,

    Joe Seidler Joe Seidler Nov 29, 2013 7:30 PM in response to Lanny
    Level 1 (85 points)
    Nov 29, 2013 7:30 PM in response to Lanny

    I'm skeptical the Time Machine warning matters. The disc is over half empty and it's been running for over a year.

     

    I unclicked every item for Spotlight in System Preferences over a month ago. Is there anything else I can do?

  • by Lanny,Helpful

    Lanny Lanny Nov 29, 2013 7:40 PM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 6 (8,041 points)
    Desktops
    Nov 29, 2013 7:40 PM in response to Joe Seidler

    Destinations:

                        Data [Network] (Last used)

                        Total size: 3 TB

                        Total number of backups: 79

                        Oldest backup: 2012-12-18 07:58:20 +0000

                        Last backup: 2013-11-30 01:06:05 +0000

                        Size of backup disk: Too small

     

    Try turning TM off, you can always turn it back on.

     

     

     

    Unclicking stuff is not turning off Spotlight, just removing the items from your search results. Click on the Privacy tab and use the + sign to add your hard drive. Then restart your Mac.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 29, 2013 8:03 PM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 5 (7,813 points)
    Notebooks
    Nov 29, 2013 8:03 PM in response to Joe Seidler

    Your system looks fine, I expect the launchd jobs are all up to date, since that is the role of those ones. I would remove one of the duplicate Adobe jobs - [loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist It should be in the hidden ~/Library/LaunchAgents (use the Finders 'Go menu > Go to folder' to open it).

     

    It's worth checking the pref panes & related software are up to date.

     

    As Lanny said, it looks like spotlight is rebuilding index(s). Make sure it stays awake for that to complete (I find 10.9 will sleep at the drop of a hat).

     

    I'd also shutdown & remove the non essential HD's to see if it behaves better with just the boot disk. If that is the case back them up & run Disk Utility to verify & repair any errors.

     

    I'd also open the side door & try to hear or feel which disk is actually thrashing.

     

    Also see if any messages appear as the thrashing takes place, it's difficult to pick out relevant messages, but try to grab a few samples, too many log lines will just prevent people from interpreting them.

  • by Joe Seidler,

    Joe Seidler Joe Seidler Nov 29, 2013 8:31 PM in response to Drew Reece
    Level 1 (85 points)
    Nov 29, 2013 8:31 PM in response to Drew Reece

    Here is my new EtreCheck. What is com.apple.MediaLibraryService ?

     

     

    Hardware Information:

              Mac Pro (Early 2008)

              Mac Pro - model: MacPro3,1

              2 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon CPUs: 8 cores

              8 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT - VRAM: 512 MB

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0

              AirPlay: Version: 1.9

              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0

              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.9 (13A603) - Uptime: 0 days 0:2:34

     

    Disk Information:

              ST3750640AS P disk0 : (750.16 GB)

                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 749.3 GB (301.21 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              ST31000340AS disk1 : (1 TB)

                        EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Movies&DVDs (disk1s2) /Volumes/Movies&DVDs: 999.86 GB (141 GB free)

     

              ST31000340AS disk2 : (1 TB)

                        EFI (disk2s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        OS10.6 (disk2s2) /Volumes/OS10.6: 999.86 GB (883.39 GB free)

     

    USB Information:

              Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

                        Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard

     

              NEC Corporation USB2.0 Hub Controller

                        Canon MX850 series

     

     

              Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

     

     

    FireWire Information:

              Apple Computer, Inc. iSight 200mbit - 400mbit max

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

     

    Kernel Extensions:

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons:

     

    Problem System Launch Agents:

     

    Launch Daemons:

              [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist

              [loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist

     

    Launch Agents:

     

    User Launch Agents:

              [loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist

              [loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

     

    User Login Items:

              iTunes

              Mail

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              Flash Player

              Flip4Mac WMV

              Growl

              Java

              Perian

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

              AdobePDFViewer.plugin

              AdobePDFViewerNPAPI.plugin

              Default Browser.plugin

              Flash Player.plugin

              FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin

              Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin

              googletalkbrowserplugin.plugin

              JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

              npgtpo3dautoplugin.plugin

              o1dbrowserplugin.plugin

              QuickTime Plugin.plugin

              RealPlayer Plugin.plugin

              Silverlight.plugin

     

    User Internet Plug-ins:

              CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin.plugin

     

    Bad Fonts:

              None

     

    Time Machine:

              Skip System Files: NO

              Auto backup: YES

              Volumes being backed up:

                        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 749.3 GB Disk used: 448.09 GB

                        Movies&DVDs: Disk size: 999.86 GB Disk used: 858.87 GB

              Destinations:

                        Data [Network] (Last used)

                        Total size: 3 TB

                        Total number of backups: 79

                        Oldest backup: 2012-12-18 07:58:20 +0000

                        Last backup: 2013-11-30 03:24:35 +0000

                        Size of backup disk: Too small

                                  Backup size 3 TB < (Disk used 1.31 TB X 3)

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                  47%          com.apple.MediaLibraryService

                   1%          WindowServer

                   1%          EtreCheck

                   0%          fontd

                   0%          notifyd

                   0%          dpd

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              180 MB             iTunes

              179 MB             com.apple.MediaLibraryService

              115 MB             Mail

              82 MB              soagent

              74 MB              Finder

              74 MB              com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

              66 MB              com.apple.quicklook.satellite

              66 MB              CalendarAgent

              57 MB              SystemUIServer

              57 MB              WindowServer

     

    Virtual Memory Statistics:

              4.98 GB            Free RAM

              2.17 GB            Active RAM

              252 MB             Inactive RAM

              618 MB             Wired RAM

              155 MB             Page-ins

              0 B                Page-outs

  • by Lanny,

    Lanny Lanny Nov 29, 2013 8:45 PM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 6 (8,041 points)
    Desktops
    Nov 29, 2013 8:45 PM in response to Joe Seidler

    What is com.apple.MediaLibraryService ?

    It seems to be related to some kind of iTunes synching process, suggest you quit iTunes to see if the process stops.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 29, 2013 8:47 PM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 5 (7,813 points)
    Notebooks
    Nov 29, 2013 8:47 PM in response to Joe Seidler

    Seems to be an indexer for photos?

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/23636152#23636152

     

    I should have been more specific, look in Console in the all messages section. It's in Applications/Utilities.

     

    The fsusage command in that thread may help you too.

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Nov 29, 2013 9:03 PM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 6 (17,700 points)
    Nov 29, 2013 9:03 PM in response to Joe Seidler

    Joe Seidler wrote:

    I'm skeptical the Time Machine warning matters. The disc is over half empty and it's been running for over a year.

    You are right to be skeptical about that. Etresoft has said elsewhere that this is just intended as a rough guide for sizing Time Machine backup drives & the whole Time Machine section of the report is mostly just meant to show if a Time Machine backup is in use, which can help with suggestions for fixing some kinds of problems.

     

    Also, he has just released a new version (1.9.1) that tries to gather info about older apps on the machine, also intended to help with suggestions for fixing some kinds of problems.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Nov 29, 2013 9:11 PM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 10 (208,044 points)
    Applications
    Nov 29, 2013 9:11 PM in response to Joe Seidler

    First, back up all data immediately unless you already have a current backup. If you can't back up, stop here. Do not take any of the steps below.

     

    Step 1

     

    This diagnostic procedure will query the log for messages that may indicate a system issue. It changes nothing, and therefore will not, in itself, solve your problem.

     

    If you have more than one user account, these instructions must be carried out as an administrator.

     

    Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

    syslog -k Sender kernel -k Message CReq 'GPU |hfs: Ru|I/O e|find tok|n Cause: -|NVDA\(|pagin|timed? ?o' | tail | open -ef

    Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.

     

    Launch the Terminal application in any of the following ways:

     

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

     

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

     

    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.

     

    Paste into the Terminal window (command-V). I've tested these instructions only with the Safari web browser. If you use another browser, you may have to press the return key.

     

    The command may take a noticeable amount of time to run. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign (“$”) to appear.

     

    A TextEdit window will open with the output of the command. Normally the command will produce no output, and the window will be empty. If the TextEdit window (not the Terminal window) has anything in it, stop here and post it — the text, please, not a screenshot. The title of the TextEdit window doesn't matter, and you don't need to post that.

     

    Step 2

     

    There are a few other possible causes of generalized slow performance that you can rule out easily.

     

    • Disconnect all non-essential wired peripherals and remove aftermarket expansion cards, if any.
    • Reset the System Management Controller.
    • Run Software Update. If there's a firmware update, install it.
    • If you're booting from an aftermarket SSD, see whether there's a firmware update for it.
    • If you have a portable computer, check the cycle count of the battery. It may be due for replacement.
    • If you have many image or video files on the Desktop with preview icons, move them to another folder.
    • If applicable, uncheck all boxes in the iCloud preference pane. See whether there's any change.
    • Check your keychains in Keychain Access for excessively duplicated items.
    • Boot into Recovery mode, launch Disk Utility, and run Repair Disk.
    • If you have a MacBook Pro with dual graphics, disable automatic graphics switching in the Energy Saverpreference pane for better performance at the cost of shorter battery life.

    Step 3

     

    When you notice the problem, launch the Activity Monitor application in any of the following ways:

     

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

     

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

     

    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Activity Monitor in the icon grid.

     

    Select the CPU tab of the Activity Monitor window.

     

    Select All Processes from the View menu or the menu in the toolbar, if not already selected.

     

    Click the heading of the % CPU column in the process table to sort the entries by CPU usage. You may have to click it twice to get the highest value at the top. What is it, and what is the process? Also post the values for User, System, and Idle at the bottom of the window.

     

    Select the Memory tab. What value is shown in the bottom part of the window for Swap used?

     

    Next, select the Disk tab. Post the approximate values shown for Reads in/sec and Writes out/sec (not Reads in andWrites out.)

     

    Step 4

     

    If you have more than one user account, you must be logged in as an administrator to carry out this step.

     

    Launch the Console application in the same way you launched Activity Monitor. Make sure the title of the Console window is All Messages. If it isn't, select All Messages from the SYSTEM LOG QUERIES menu on the left. If you don't see that menu, select

    View â–¹ Show Log List

    from the menu bar.

     

    Select the 50 or so most recent entries in the log. Copy them to the Clipboard by pressing the key combinationcommand-C. Paste into a reply to this message (command-V). You're looking for entries at the end of the log, not at the beginning.

     

    When posting a log extract, be selective. Don't post more than is requested.

    Please do not indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.

    Important: Some personal information, such as your name, may appear in the log. Anonymize before posting. That should be easy to do if your extract is not too long.

  • by Joe Seidler,

    Joe Seidler Joe Seidler Nov 29, 2013 10:20 PM in response to R C-R
    Level 1 (85 points)
    Nov 29, 2013 10:20 PM in response to R C-R

    I updated to EtreCheck 1.9.1. Here are my new results.

     

    What is this Internet Plugin? It is shown in red:

    npgtpo3dautoplugin: Version: 0.1.44.29 - SDK 10.5


     

    Hardware Information:

              Mac Pro (Early 2008)

              Mac Pro - model: MacPro3,1

              2 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon CPUs: 8 cores

              8 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT - VRAM: 512 MB

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

              AirPlay: Version: 1.9 - SDK 10.9

              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0 - SDK 10.9

              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.9 (13A603) - Uptime: 0 days 1:35:46

     

    Disk Information:

              ST3750640AS P disk0 : (750.16 GB)

                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 749.3 GB (301.29 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              ST31000340AS disk1 : (1 TB)

                        EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Movies&DVDs (disk1s2) /Volumes/Movies&DVDs: 999.86 GB (141 GB free)

     

              ST31000340AS disk2 : (1 TB)

                        EFI (disk2s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        OS10.6 (disk2s2) /Volumes/OS10.6: 999.86 GB (883.44 GB free)

     

    USB Information:

              Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

                        Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard

     

              NEC Corporation USB2.0 Hub Controller

                        Canon MX850 series

     

              Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

     

     

     

    FireWire Information:

              Apple Computer, Inc. iSight 200mbit - 400mbit max

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

     

    Kernel Extensions:

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons:

     

    Problem System Launch Agents:

     

    Launch Daemons:

              [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist

              [loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist

              [loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist

     

    Launch Agents:

              [loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist

     

    User Launch Agents:

              [loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist

              [loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist

     

    User Login Items:

              Mail

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              Flash Player

              Flip4Mac WMV

              Growl

              Java

              Perian

     

    Internet Plug-ins::

              o1dbrowserplugin: Version: 4.9.1.16010

              Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

              Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 3.2.0.16   - SDK 10.8

              RealPlayer Plugin: Version: (null)

              AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 10.1.8

              FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 11.9.900.152 - SDK 10.6

              Silverlight: Version: 5.1.10411.0 - SDK 10.6

              Flash Player: Version: 11.9.900.152 - SDK 10.6

              QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

              googletalkbrowserplugin: Version: 4.9.1.16010

              npgtpo3dautoplugin: Version: 0.1.44.29 - SDK 10.5

              AdobePDFViewer: Version: 10.1.8

              JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 45

     

    User Internet Plug-ins::

              CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin: Version: 1.0.92

     

    Bad Fonts:

              None

     

    Old applications:

              None

     

    Time Machine:

              Skip System Files: NO

              Auto backup: YES

              Volumes being backed up:

                        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 749.3 GB Disk used: 448 GB

                        Movies&DVDs: Disk size: 999.86 GB Disk used: 858.87 GB

              Destinations:

                        Data [Network] (Last used)

                        Total size: 3 TB

                        Total number of backups: 78

                        Oldest backup: 2012-12-18 07:58:20 +0000

                        Last backup: 2013-11-30 04:56:01 +0000

                        Size of backup disk: Too small

                                  Backup size 3 TB < (Disk used 1.31 TB X 3)

              Time Machine details may not be accurate.

              All volumes being backed up may not be listed.

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                   2%          diskimages-helper

                   1%          WindowServer

                   1%          backupd

                   1%          EtreCheck

                   0%          mds

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              147 MB             com.apple.IconServicesAgent

              139 MB             Mail

              106 MB             Finder

              90 MB              com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

              82 MB              soagent

     

    Virtual Memory Statistics:

              4.71 GB            Free RAM

              2.22 GB            Active RAM

              292 MB             Inactive RAM

              804 MB             Wired RAM

              272 MB             Page-ins

              0 B                Page-outs

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 29, 2013 10:57 PM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 5 (7,813 points)
    Notebooks
    Nov 29, 2013 10:57 PM in response to Joe Seidler

    npgtpo3dautoplugin + the search field = https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4974705 :)

    Your Mac looks clean enough (unless you want to lose the Internet plugins). See what Linc's help turns up.

     

    PS you asked earlier about Spotlight indexing, it's possible to exclude disks in the privacy section of Spotlights preferences. It will erase the index &amp; may not resolve anything, but it is one option.

  • by Tos Cook,

    Tos Cook Tos Cook Nov 30, 2013 1:21 AM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 1 (16 points)
    Nov 30, 2013 1:21 AM in response to Joe Seidler

    I have the same problem. Any help would be much appreciated.

    Hardware Information:

              MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009)

              MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,5

              1 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores

              4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

              AirPlay: Version: 1.9 - SDK 10.9

              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0 - SDK 10.9

              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.9 (13A603) - Uptime: 0 days 14:24:5

     

    Disk Information:

              Hitachi HTS545050B9SA02 disk0 : (500,11 GB)

                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 499,25 GB (259,12 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GS23N 

     

    USB Information:

              Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

     

              Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

     

              Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

              Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

     

    FireWire Information:

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

     

    Kernel Extensions:

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons:

              [failed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist

     

    Problem System Launch Agents:

     

    Launch Daemons:

              [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist

              [loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist

     

    Launch Agents:

              [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist

     

    User Launch Agents:

              [failed] com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist

              [loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist

     

    User Login Items:

              Mail

              Safari

              SpeechSynthesisServer

              Download

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              Flash Player

              Flip4Mac WMV

              Perian

              Shades Preferences

     

    Internet Plug-ins::

              Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.3.8.1

              FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 11.9.900.152 - SDK 10.6

              EPPEX Plugin: Version: 3.0.5.0

              Flash Player: Version: 11.9.900.152 - SDK 10.6

              Becon: Version: (null) - SDK 10.7

              Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

              JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 14.9.0 - SDK 10.7 Outdated! Update

              QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

              Silverlight: Version: 5.1.20513.0 - SDK 10.6

              iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

     

    User Internet Plug-ins::

              Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1

     

    Bad Fonts:

              None

     

    Old applications:

              None

     

    Time Machine:

              Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                   8%          iPhoto

                   2%          mtmd

                   1%          WindowServer

                   1%          EtreCheck

                   1%          hidd

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              250 MB             iPhoto

              139 MB             Safari

              78 MB              Mail

              57 MB              WindowServer

              53 MB              Finder

     

    Virtual Memory Statistics:

              24 MB              Free RAM

              874 MB             Active RAM

              859 MB             Inactive RAM

              528 MB             Wired RAM

              3.96 GB            Page-ins

              1.21 GB            Page-outs

  • by infinite vortex,Helpful

    infinite vortex infinite vortex Nov 30, 2013 3:48 AM in response to Joe Seidler
    Level 7 (21,405 points)
    Nov 30, 2013 3:48 AM in response to Joe Seidler

    One big difference was a delay with the boot disc thrashing a lot when I started the computer and when I launched any app. That is, after starting my Mac Pro (2008), once the windows are all visible, there is a 30+ second delay (with the boot disc thrashing a lot) before it responds.

     

    If you find that your boot drive to be thrashing substantially more than previously then more than likely it's not a matter of OS X Mavericks itself but the physical nature of HDDs. Thrashing, where your HDD is constantly seeking from one end of your platter(s)s to another, is more a sign of where your OS and data is on your HDD rather than what is on your HDD.

     

    My suggestion is to simply clone your boot drive to another, empty, drive (the best would be another internal drive of the same size or larger so you can directly compare) and see how well it runs. My guess is that given your disk utilisation is at 60% or so a simple clone off and clone back will mostly, if not entirely, fix your issues.

  • by infinite vortex,

    infinite vortex infinite vortex Nov 30, 2013 3:49 AM in response to Tos Cook
    Level 7 (21,405 points)
    Nov 30, 2013 3:49 AM in response to Tos Cook

    Virtual Memory Statistics:

              24 MB              Free RAM

              874 MB             Active RAM

              859 MB             Inactive RAM

              528 MB             Wired RAM

              3.96 GB            Page-ins

              1.21 GB            Page-outs

     

    Tos, you need more RAM pure and simple.

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