Comments GONE from Get Info window: what gives?

I went to a lot of trouble to put comments into the Get Info windows of some jpgs. For some reason, they are now "Spotlight" comments and not just "Comments." Every last one of the comments has vanished. I entered each comment from the Finder's Get Info window for that particular jpg. Is this just another example of Spotlight's non-marvelousness (with apologies to those who love Spotlight!), or did I do something wrong? This is work I am doing for my thesis, so I totally do not appreciate the loss.

The information I put into Comments was all the stuff written on the backs of photos I am scanning. There must be thousands of these photos, and I wanted some place to keep this information, rather than having to also scan the back of each one (then having to try to keep the front and back together!). Comments seemed like the ideal and obvious solution, but I am apparently mistaken. What alternatives are there?

TIA for any advice/help etc!

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Posted on Jul 17, 2006 11:11 AM

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Jul 17, 2006 12:05 PM in response to Kogiah

I don't know what may have happened to your "comments" and any issues with Spotlight. I've never experienced such behavior and still have comments on files made using OS 7.
Image formats (like JPEG) allow you to store this "extra" data within the file so it can be viewed and travels with the file.
I've been a happy user of GraphicConverter since 1998. It allows you to add this data to the file.
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I wonder if iPhoto also does the same with "comments"?

Jul 17, 2006 1:16 PM in response to QuickTimeKirk

A file's "Comments" in OS X are stored in the copy of the invisible ".DS_Store" file that resides in the same folder as the commented file - I believe the change from "Comments" to "Spotlight Comments" is a change in name only. I think many of the problems with comments in "OS X" can be blamed on the "Finder" - like a lot of its other tasks, the "Finder" is lazy and doesn't get around to updating the ".DS_Store" files until it feels like it - maybe there is a reason for this, but I can't think of one. So if a new comment is added, or a file with an old comment is moved and the "Finder" crashes before the ".DS_Store" file is updated, the comments will be lost. In my opinion, this is just bad design - how much sympathy do you have for someone that complains that they lost data because the power went out and they hadn't saved any changes? Unfortunately, this is how the "Finder" treats your data, and not only do you lose changes, but you lose the original as well.

There are a few things that seem to encourage the "Finder" to update the ".DS_Store" files, such as duplicating something in the folder containing the commented item. Another is to "quit" the "Finder" - don't use "Force Quit" or "relaunch" from the "Dock", or ' kill' from the command line - these are the equivalent of crashing the "Finder" in that changes to preferences, etc. aren't saved. Use "Quit" in "Activity Monitor.app", or AppleScript, or enable the Finder's "Quit" menu item to quit. Even "quitting" nicely, sometimes the "Finder" may crash in the process, in which case comments may be lost. Either way, these are just workarounds for the problem that "Finder" doesn't update ".DS_Store" files immediately.

The other problem is that if anything other than "Finder" is used to move a file to a different folder, it is likely that the comments won't be transferred - for example, the unix tools wouldn't have a clue about "comments", and even if they did, I don't think the format of ".DS_Store" files is publicly known so that they could be updated.

If the contents of the comments are important, it would probably be best to either back up frequently, or else don't rely on "Finder" comments to store them. For example, "iPhoto" comments are also stored in a separate file, but the file seems to updated more quickly and more predictably than Finder's ".DS_Store" files.

Jul 17, 2006 3:50 PM in response to biovizier

If you want the comments stored with the file itself use a program such as Photoshop or Photoshop Elements. Those comments are stored in the file's resource fork, so as long as you don't strip the resource fork by transferring the file over the Internet or something you'll be fine. I would not use the Finder's Spotlight Comments to save anything I really cared about.
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