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surrati Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

Can I import mathML or Latex format math expressions to pages and how?


MacBook, MacBook Air
  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,500 points)

    Pages only works directly with MathType.

     

    Apple's iBooks Author app can handle latext and mathml:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5321

  • surrati Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    then is it possible to save the iBook files in pages? if yes, how?

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (75,500 points)

    surrati wrote:

     

    then is it possible to save the iBook files in pages?

     

    No, iBA only produces .books or .pdf format.  You could try copy/paste from iBA into Pages, or importing pdf into Pages, but what happens to equations you would have to test.

     

    What do you need to produce?  Perhaps iBA would work for that.

  • surrati Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    thanks, that what i am looking for.

    if i past the equation form MathML in iBA. then i export it to Pages.

    i am looking to write down my PhD defense in easy to use word editor, LATEX is wasting time and effor. defietly i need to wrire lots of mathimatical equations and formula.

     

    i feel pages is very easy to write with and can handle large documents like 200 to 300 pages, is it?

     

    is there any good reference in colaborating endnotes, with pages? because i just made few tests, and found that the bibilography is not updating wiht the citation numbers.

  • Mr.MathType Level 1 Level 1 (135 points)

    Surrati, for your PhD defense, I don't think you'll be satisfied with using MathML in iBA, then exporting to Pages. The equations will come across as images in Pages, so if you have to edit one, you'll have to do it in iBA, then copy & paste it again. Why not just use MathType? MathType supports MathML as well, and integrates into Pages such that you can double-click to edit the equations. Be aware though: Apple has a bug in Pages 5.0 and 5.0.1 such that if you do not open MathType first, you may not be able to insert equations. This article explains it: http://www.dessci.com/en/support/mathtype/tsn/tsn146.htm

  • surrati Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    thanks, that is great

  • surrati Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    do you mean that i can export directly from MathML to MathType? that mean any mathML fromat equation can be insterted in MathType?

  • surrati Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i am conerned about this, because i want to handwrite my equations, which is easier, in my iPad then exposrt it in MathML format to Pages. then Pages can open it using MathType? is this scenario applicable?

  • Mr.MathType Level 1 Level 1 (135 points)

    surrati wrote:

     

    ...i want to handwrite my equations, which is easier, in my iPad then exposrt it in MathML format to Pages. then Pages can open it using MathType? is this scenario applicable?

    This scenario is applicable, but it's not completely seamless. Here's what I'd do:

     

    • Use MyScript MathPad (https://itunes.apple.com/app/myscript-mathpad/id674996719) as your math handwriting app. It's free. Be aware there's another app named "MathPad", so if you get the one at that link you're OK. Just be sure it's got a green logo and says MyScript MathPad, rather than simply MathPad. (Disclaimer: I work for the company that makes MathType, but I don't have any relationship at all with MyScript, nor with Apple.)

    • Write the equation in MyScript MathPad. If you make a mistake, simply cross through it as if you're scratching it out with a pencil. The part you scratched out will erase and you can make the correction. For large equations, I recommend writing them in small chunks, then adding to it until the equation's finished.

    • When it's complete, click the Export button in the upper right (directly beneath the battery logo), and choose MathML. Tap Export, then Copy. Switch to your Pages document and paste it in position.

    • It will appear as MathML at this point. You can continue with the document, adding text & equations as the document progresses.

    • Here's where the "not completely seamless" part comes in -- you'll have to open the document on your Mac. One at a time, cut each equation. (Here is a glitch in Pages 5.0 and 5.0.1: you'll have to open MathType from your Applications folder before you proceed. If you do the next step before opening MathType first, you can't get the equations into your document.) From Pages' menus, choose Insert MathType Equation. A MathType window should open up with a label similar to this on its title bar: MathType -- Equation from Pages. If it says "Untitled 1" or some such, close Pages, make sure MathType is open, then re-open pages and try again. Paste the equation into MathType, make sure it's correct and make any changes you need, then close MathType. The equation should appear in the document at the point where you cut the MathML.

    • There are several apps for iPad that recognize handwriting, convert it to a graphical equation, and can export MathML. MyScript MathPad is the only one I've used very much, so it's the one I know the most about. If you try MyScript MathPad and don't like it, I'm also a bit familiar with FluidEquation 2014 (it's not free -- $4.99). It's an excellent app, and also has MathML export, but be aware that the price does not buy a forever license. For this price, it will only function through December 31, 2014.

     

    You may be able to automate these steps with OS X's Automator.app, but I don't know. I've never done that.

     

    If you decide to go that route, please let us know how it goes. I have a video showing the above process. Let me know if you'd like to see it and I'll post the link.

  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (29,945 points)

    I'm not following how you get from the MyScript MathPad iOS app to Pages for Mac.

     

    Jerry

  • Mr.MathType Level 1 Level 1 (135 points)

    You're right; I wasn't very clear about that. I'm glad you asked.

     

    The easiest way is to use iCloud, since it's the cloud service with the closest integration to Pages for Mac and Pages for iOS. That said though, there's no reason other similar services wouldn't work -- Dropbox, Box, SkyDrive, etc.

     

    Since the document I'm using resides in iCloud, I just open it directly on the iPad, and when I switch back to Documents, it synchronizes that copy with the cloud copy (and maybe more often than that; I don't really know about that). The "Open" screen in Pages for Mac gives a choice of "iCloud" or "On My Mac". If iCloud is selected, the document should be the first one listed since it's likely the most recently updated. Select it, click Open, and you're in business.

     

    Like I mentioned in my other description, there's a lot of steps involved here, but if you want to use MathML in a document that's editable on both Mac and iOS, that's the only way I know to do it.

  • Jerrold Green1 Level 7 Level 7 (29,945 points)

    At the present time, iWork '13 apps are incompatible with Dropbox, according to numerous reports. I've no idea about the others.

     

    Jerry

  • Mr.MathType Level 1 Level 1 (135 points)

    You're correct that the iOS versions of Pages, Keynote, and Numbers are incompatible with Dropbox. The OS X versions are compatible. Here's an article that describes how to get around that incompatibility on Dropbox: http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20068049-285/how-to-use-webdav-in-pages-keyn ote-or-numbers-with-dropbox/. Frankly, if it were me and I was only working with my own documents, I'd stick with iCloud. It's easier, and since it's integrated directly into the apps, it's pretty seamless. If you have to collaborate with someone using Dropbox though, I tried the process described in the article and it works.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (33,560 points)

    That information is out of date. It was written in 2011 and doesn't account for Apples chnages in the new bundled archive format for the new Maverick iWork Apps.

     

    Supposedly the file format is now consistent between iOS 7, iCloud and OSX Mavericks. But that is the file format that is being rejected by Dropbox, Google, GMail etc.

     

    Peter

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