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Dec 15, 2013 9:02 AM in response to Sweejakby Sweejak,I updated the Java Plugin, threw out the Arcana startupsound and the cookiestumbleragentplist.
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Dec 15, 2013 9:49 AM in response to Sweejakby léonie,Have you updateted to AudioHijackBeta? The Rogue Amoeba page lists AudioHijack as not yet fully compatible with Mavericks: http://rogueamoeba.com/status/
i.e. the com.rogueamoeba.InstantOn component or com.rogueamoeba.InstantOnCore .
I don't see, however, how this audio software could be interfering, more likely candidates are AppCleaner and AppTrap, since they are directly dealing with preference files.
I have to think a bit about it.
What are you using SIMBL for? I unstalled my SIMBL plugin, because it was giving me trouble again and again after the updates to Mt. Lion and Mavericks. A pity, since it was needed for the Colorful Sidebar.
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Dec 15, 2013 9:54 AM in response to Sweejakby Frank Caggiano,This in the plist file is actually correct
<key>00000000-0000-0000-0000-00452D353130</key>
<dict>
<key>ICADeviceTypeKey</key>
<string>ICADeviceTypeCamera</string>
<key>autolaunchApplicationPath</key>
<string>/Applications/Aperture.app</string>
</dict>
It says that when a camera is attached, ICADeviceTypeCamera, open, autolaunchApplicationPath, Aperture, /Applications/Aperture.app
And this is from the latest plist file? And I guess you tried a camera to see if Aperture opened?
Nothing in the output of EtreChecks list of start up items jumps out but I'm not familiar with a number of your startup items.
Two things however icom.freemacsoft.appcleanerd.plist always get suspicious when I see OS X 3rd party app cleaners installed on machines having weird problems. It would be a good idea to get rid of this no matter what. Not needed on a Mac and can cause problems.
And Cookie Stumbler shoudl go also.
Try the above and see what happens. Sorry I don;t have anything more definitive this AM, running out of ideas to be honest.
regards
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Dec 15, 2013 10:05 AM in response to léonieby Sweejak,No I haven't updated Audio Hijack and deleted SIMBL a long while ago because I was suspecting it was causing problems. I am still running Lion on my main drive but I have installed Mavericks on a seperate drive just to see how it works. It did not play well with my CAD program (Ashlar Xenon, display problems) so I've left it alone until I'm sure it runs my critical software. I may boot into that drive to play with it again after they update it.
I should probably, at least, get rid of either AppCleaner orAppTrap, but AppTrap is turned off.
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Dec 15, 2013 10:14 AM in response to Frank Caggianoby Sweejak,I will uninstall AppCleaner. CookieStumbler is already thrown out. AppTrap is turned off.
Currently Aperture's pref is set correctly, and it works , but the problem has always been with what happens after a reboot. Image Capture shows the correct setting. I will logout and try again.
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Dec 15, 2013 10:28 AM in response to Sweejakby Sweejak,Nope, I connect a camera and Aperture does not open, the setting has reverted once again to "no application" The relevant part inTextWrangler reports:
<key>00000000-0000-0000-0000-00452D353130</key>
<dict>
<key>ICADeviceTypeKey</key>
<string>ICADeviceTypeCamera</string>
<key>autolaunchApplicationPath</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
<key>HotPlugActionArray</key>
<array>
<string>/Applications/Aperture.app</string>
</array>
<key>HotPlugActionPath</key>
<string></string>
<key>LastHotPlugActionPath</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
</plist>
So, I go to Aperture prefs, set camera to open Aperture and TextWrangler reports:
<key>00000000-0000-0000-0000-00452D353130</key>
<dict>
<key>ICADeviceTypeKey</key>
<string>ICADeviceTypeCamera</string>
<key>autolaunchApplicationPath</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
<key>HotPlugActionArray</key>
<array>
<string>/Applications/Aperture.app</string>
</array>
<key>HotPlugActionPath</key>
<string>/Applications/Aperture.app</string>
<key>LastHotPlugActionPath</key>
<string></string>
</dict>
</plist>
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Dec 15, 2013 2:13 PM in response to Sweejakby léonie,What did you do before the plist reverted? Log off or restart the system?
And what have you uninstalled by now?
AppCleaner Helper, AppTrap?
Is the com.freemacsoft.appcleanerd.plist gone, and also AppCleaner Helper, when you run EtreCheck again?
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Dec 15, 2013 2:33 PM in response to léonieby Sweejak,I logged off.... I think. The plist reverts when I reboot or log off. I can run Aperture after my pref selection and it does as it should, I can quit and then run Aperture again and everything is fine. It appears to only revert to "no application" only when I shut down, log off, or reboot.
I uninstalled AppCleaner and com.freemacsoft.appcleanerd.plist is thrown out.
AppTrap is still there in my System Prefs, but it is turned off and has been for ages.
It's all beyond my knowledge, but I cannot understand what process logging off initates that kills my preference. Could it be a virus. I did run Virus Barrier Plus scan about a week ago, it found nothing but I'll run it with the 12/10/13 definitions now.
When I run EtreCheck I get this:
Hardware Information:
Mac Pro (Mid 2010)
Mac Pro - model: MacPro5,1
1 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon CPU: 4 cores
10 GB RAM
Video Information:
ATI Radeon HD 5770 - VRAM: 1024 MB
Audio Plug-ins:
iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.1 - SDK 10.7
System Software:
Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63) - Uptime: 0 days 6:13:20
Disk Information:
HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GH61N
Hitachi HDS722020ALA330 disk0 : (2 TB)
disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
Mac HD (disk0s2) /: 2 TB (1.45 TB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
ST31000528AS disk2 : (1 TB)
disk2s1 (disk2s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
Maverick (disk2s2) /Volumes/Maverick: 999.35 GB (470.55 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk2s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
SAMSUNG HD103UI disk1 : (1 TB)
disk1s1 (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 32 KB
Terra (disk1s3) /Volumes/Terra: 1 TB (453.02 GB free)
WDC WD10EZEX-00RKKA0 disk3 : (1 TB)
disk3s1 (disk3s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
APE (disk3s2) /Volumes/APE: 461.07 GB (388.23 GB free)
SCRATCH (disk3s3) /Volumes/SCRATCH: 538.66 GB (538.2 GB free)
USB Information:
Western Digital My Book 111A 1 TB
disk5s1 (disk5s1) <not mounted>: 32 KB
TIME (disk5s3) /Volumes/TIME: 1 TB (508.46 GB free)
Canon CanoScan
Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
AKM AK5370
Apple Computer, Inc. Apple Cinema HD Display
HP Officejet 7000 E809a
FireWire Information:
LaCie Hard Drive FW/USB 400mbit - 400mbit max
disk4s1 (disk4s1) <not mounted>: 32 KB
LaCie 930 (disk4s3) /Volumes/LaCie 930: 1 TB (459.83 GB free)
Thunderbolt Information:
Kernel Extensions:
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch (4050 - SDK 10.8)
com.rogueamoeba.InstantOn (6.0.3 - SDK 10.6)
jp.plentycom.driver.SteerMouse (4.1.7 - SDK 10.6)
com.rogueamoeba.InstantOnCore (6.0.3 - SDK 10.6)
com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower (1.5.3 - SDK 10.6)
Problem System Launch Daemons:
[not loaded] ftp-proxy.plist
Problem System Launch Agents:
Launch Daemons:
[loaded] at.obdev.littlesnitchd.plist
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
[loaded] com.freemacsoft.appcleanerd.plist
[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist
[loaded] com.machangout.glims.loader.plist
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist
Launch Agents:
[loaded] at.obdev.LittleSnitchUIAgent.plist
[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
[loaded] com.machangout.glims.agent.plist
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist
[loaded] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist
User Launch Agents:
[loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
[failed] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist
[loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist
User Login Items:
Rogue Amoeba Schedule Helper
Skype
Spark Daemon
Mail
Typewriter Keyboard
AppCleaner Helper
iCal
SpeechSynthesisServer
iTunes
Dropbox
Wondershare AllMyTube
SoundSource
RealPlayer Downloader Agent
SteerMouse Manager
NetNewsWire copy
Net Monitor
Dropzone
HP Scheduler
3rd Party Preference Panes:
AppTrap
Flash Player
Flip4Mac WMV
Java
MenuMeters
Perian
SteerMouse
Internet Plug-ins::
DirectorShockwave: Version: 11.0.3r470
o1dbrowserplugin: Version: 3.14.17.11865
AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin1017277: Version: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17
Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.0
Unity Web Player: Version: UnityPlayer version 3.5.6f4 - SDK 10.6
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 3.2.0.16 - SDK 10.8
RealPlayer Plugin: Version: (null)
Silverlight: Version: 5.1.10411.0 - SDK 10.6
FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
LogMeIn: Version: 1.0.961 - SDK 10.7
Flash Player: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin: Version: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17
googletalkbrowserplugin: Version: 3.14.17.11865
iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
LogMeInSafari32: Version: 1.0.961 - SDK 10.7
npgtpo3dautoplugin: Version: 0.1.44.23 - SDK 10.5
QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.1
JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 45
User Internet Plug-ins::
Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1
Bad Fonts:
None
Old applications:
None
Time Machine:
Time Machine not configured!
Top Processes by CPU:
4% WindowServer
3% Typewriter Keyboard
3% backupd
3% iTunes
2% Finder
Top Processes by Memory:
768 MB Aperture
696 MB WebProcess
328 MB Safari
276 MB VirusBarrier Plus
246 MB iTunes
Virtual Memory Statistics:
3.32 GB Free RAM
4.63 GB Active RAM
1.19 GB Inactive RAM
873 MB Wired RAM
3.64 GB Page-ins
5 MB Page-outs
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Dec 15, 2013 3:15 PM in response to Sweejakby léonie,I uninstalled AppCleaner and com.freemacsoft.appcleanerd.plist is thrown out.
AppTrap is still there in my System Prefs, but it is turned off and has been for ages.
But I still see it in the Launch Daemons
[loaded] com.freemacsoft.appcleanerd.plist
And User Login items:
AppCleaner Helper
Delete the following files manually:
/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.freemacsoft.appcleanerd.plist or
~/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.freemacsoft.appcleanerd.plist
~/Library/StartupItems/AppCleaner Helper
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Dec 15, 2013 4:13 PM in response to léonieby Sweejak,Ok, here is what EtreCheck shows:
Hardware Information:
Mac Pro (Mid 2010)
Mac Pro - model: MacPro5,1
1 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon CPU: 4 cores
10 GB RAM
Video Information:
ATI Radeon HD 5770 - VRAM: 1024 MB
Audio Plug-ins:
iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.1 - SDK 10.7
System Software:
Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63) - Uptime: 0 days 7:38:27
Disk Information:
HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GH61N
Hitachi HDS722020ALA330 disk0 : (2 TB)
disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
Mac HD (disk0s2) /: 2 TB (1.45 TB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
ST31000528AS disk2 : (1 TB)
disk2s1 (disk2s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
Maverick (disk2s2) /Volumes/Maverick: 999.35 GB (470.55 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk2s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
SAMSUNG HD103UI disk1 : (1 TB)
disk1s1 (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 32 KB
Terra (disk1s3) /Volumes/Terra: 1 TB (453.02 GB free)
WDC WD10EZEX-00RKKA0 disk3 : (1 TB)
disk3s1 (disk3s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
APE (disk3s2) /Volumes/APE: 461.07 GB (388.23 GB free)
SCRATCH (disk3s3) /Volumes/SCRATCH: 538.66 GB (538.2 GB free)
USB Information:
Western Digital My Book 111A 1 TB
disk5s1 (disk5s1) <not mounted>: 32 KB
TIME (disk5s3) /Volumes/TIME: 1 TB (412.62 GB free)
Canon CanoScan
Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
AKM AK5370
Apple Computer, Inc. Apple Cinema HD Display
HP Officejet 7000 E809a
FireWire Information:
LaCie Hard Drive FW/USB 400mbit - 400mbit max
disk4s1 (disk4s1) <not mounted>: 32 KB
LaCie 930 (disk4s3) /Volumes/LaCie 930: 1 TB (459.83 GB free)
Thunderbolt Information:
Kernel Extensions:
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch (4050 - SDK 10.8)
com.rogueamoeba.InstantOn (6.0.3 - SDK 10.6)
jp.plentycom.driver.SteerMouse (4.1.7 - SDK 10.6)
com.rogueamoeba.InstantOnCore (6.0.3 - SDK 10.6)
com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower (1.5.3 - SDK 10.6)
Problem System Launch Daemons:
[not loaded] ftp-proxy.plist
Problem System Launch Agents:
Launch Daemons:
[loaded] at.obdev.littlesnitchd.plist
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist
[loaded] com.machangout.glims.loader.plist
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist
Launch Agents:
[loaded] at.obdev.LittleSnitchUIAgent.plist
[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
[loaded] com.machangout.glims.agent.plist
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist
[loaded] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist
User Launch Agents:
[loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
[failed] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist
[loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist
User Login Items:
Rogue Amoeba Schedule Helper
Skype
Spark Daemon
Mail
Typewriter Keyboard
AppCleaner Helper
iCal
SpeechSynthesisServer
iTunes
Dropbox
Wondershare AllMyTube
SoundSource
RealPlayer Downloader Agent
SteerMouse Manager
NetNewsWire copy
Net Monitor
Dropzone
HP Scheduler
3rd Party Preference Panes:
AppTrap
Flash Player
Flip4Mac WMV
Java
MenuMeters
Perian
SteerMouse
Internet Plug-ins::
DirectorShockwave: Version: 11.0.3r470
o1dbrowserplugin: Version: 3.14.17.11865
AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin1017277: Version: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17
Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.0
Unity Web Player: Version: UnityPlayer version 3.5.6f4 - SDK 10.6
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 3.2.0.16 - SDK 10.8
RealPlayer Plugin: Version: (null)
Silverlight: Version: 5.1.10411.0 - SDK 10.6
FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
LogMeIn: Version: 1.0.961 - SDK 10.7
Flash Player: Version: 11.9.900.170 - SDK 10.6
AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin: Version: AmazonMP3DownloaderPlugin 1.0.17
googletalkbrowserplugin: Version: 3.14.17.11865
iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
LogMeInSafari32: Version: 1.0.961 - SDK 10.7
npgtpo3dautoplugin: Version: 0.1.44.23 - SDK 10.5
QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.1
JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 45
User Internet Plug-ins::
Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1
Bad Fonts:
None
Old applications:
None
Time Machine:
Time Machine not configured!
Top Processes by CPU:
5% iTunes
3% backupd
3% WindowServer
3% Typewriter Keyboard
2% Finder
Top Processes by Memory:
758 MB Aperture
748 MB WebProcess
420 MB VirusBarrier Plus
328 MB Safari
246 MB iTunes
Virtual Memory Statistics:
280 MB Free RAM
5.02 GB Active RAM
3.85 GB Inactive RAM
873 MB Wired RAM
3.78 GB Page-ins
15 MB Page-outs
Why doesn't Spotlight find these files!
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Dec 15, 2013 4:26 PM in response to Sweejakby Sweejak,And... now I got the AppCleaner via my system prefs Users and Groups, LoginItems.
On edit, I found a com.freemacsoft.applecleanerd in library>PriveledgedHelperTools and threw that out too.
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Dec 17, 2013 7:16 AM in response to Sweejakby Frank Caggiano,Sorry it's been a while since I was able to get back to this.
Unfortunately I'm at a loss at this point. I don't have a 10.7 system to really test on and there have been changes in the way the preferences are done since then.
As this seems to be directly related to something in your user settings you could make a new user for yourself and migrate your data over to it, this can get complicated and here is always the chance that you'll run into permission problems in the end.
The other troubleshooting option, which sounds extreme but is really not to bad to do, is to move all of your Library/Preferences to your desktop and see if the problem clears. It should as the new user did not have the problem. Moving all the Preferences out will make you account seem like the system was just installed.
Now at this point if the problem is fixed some users will just leave it as it is and recreate their preferences as they use applications and run the system. This works OK if you have nothing to complicated setup.
The other option at this point is to try and track down just what in the Preferences is causing the problem by a process of elimination.
Put back half the Preference items and see what happens. If the problem does not occur move those out again and move in the second half of the items. Hopefully the problem will occur. Now move half of those and see. If all goes well you can narrow it down to the file or files causing the problem.
Sorry I don;t have more
post back if you need help or more info with either of the above procedures.
regards
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Dec 17, 2013 7:33 AM in response to Frank Caggianoby Sweejak,No apologies, Frank. This is all free help and I appreciate it a lot.
I think I'm going to have to just live with it because it is, after all, a minor annoyance and I don't want to take the time to reset all my preferences, there are so many. If I make a new user I think the chances are that I'd just migrate the problem back over to the new user.
I've run PreferentialTreatment and it reports all preferences are good. Your solution reminds me of the old ConflictCathcer utility that I used in System 8. If I create a new user do I just use Migration to move all my apps over to the new account?
Do you think it's worth reinstalling Aperture?
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Dec 17, 2013 7:48 AM in response to Sweejakby Frank Caggiano,Reinstalling Aperture, in my opinion, is unlikely to fix this problem as it seems centered on your account and a reinstall of the app will only redo the common files, but hey at this point who's to say. it's quick and easy to do so why not.
I agree making a new account yourself and migrating to it is not simple and can cause problems in itself. I suggested it because if you were to contact Apple with this problem that is most likely the approach they would recommend, but I don't like dealing with issues like this that way.
I really think that, when you have some free time, moving the preferences out and moving them back in in stages is the way to go. It really won't take long and you will retain all your current preferences except of course for the one(s) causing the problem.
good luck ad if you have more questions post back
regards
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Dec 17, 2013 8:13 AM in response to Frank Caggianoby Sweejak,Ok, I'm going to think about this, Frank. When I remove preferences should I keep the Aperture preferences in ByHost and preferences? And also, do I need to do a restart after I remove each section of preferences, go to Aperture set the camera pref and restart again to see if it sticks?