install new xcode without admin rights

macbaerzh wrote:

We have a setup with the programmers are non-admins...

That's not going to work. Programmers need admin rights. I have never worked anywhere that they didn't have that.

In a Education enviroment, where we do not give admin rights to the students.

tmaeda wrote:

In a Education enviroment, where we do not give admin rights to the students.

Students are not programmers yet.

You'd be better off setting up a machine image for the students with all the tools you want them to have preinstalled. They should be able to run the software without admin rights.

Then re-image the machines every semester.

That would be ideal, but because Apple releases XCode after the school year starts it isn't ideal to reimage 300+ machines during the school year.

So working on a way of installing the software, and allowing for all the bits and bytes to be installed via scripts.

True, but they do need many of the same tools that programmers will need.

Plan for it. If Xcode isn't relaesed until after the year starts, stay on the old version. It's not like the instructors are suddenly going to rewrite their courses to use the newest bleeding edge features.

Heck, for most programming tasks studnets are going to be doing, you could probably still be using Xcode 4.

I have taught programming at the university level; if I ever asked the tech staff to do what you want, they'd have lynched me. Machine images were frozen in August and did not change but for an act of God.

tmaeda wrote:

True, but they do need many of the same tools that programmers will need.

That is an entirely different topic than what the original poster is talking about. I suggest you start your own thread and describe your problem and how you would like things to work in an ideal world.

Students should not have admin rights on machines. There are proper ways to get Xcode to work nicely in an education environment. Unfortunately, that often requires a competent IT staff willing and able to support Macs. I am thinking that your situation is pretty typical and you don't have that. Otherwise, it would already be done and you wouldn't be asking here 🙂.

Ideally, have IT handle it. If they can't handle it, as they probably can't, start a new question here in the developer forum and people will help you cobble together some scripts to make it work.

I'm a student and am actually learning to speak C++ and Java. I am only a Sophomore.

I want to know why you posted that.