hailalistair

Q: Crashes/reboots/restarts while on sleep

This thread is exclusive to people who have spontaneous crashes/reboots/restarts while their Mac is in sleep. (this is usually connected to having a USB external hard drive plugged in the computer while on sleep)

 

In simple words, you are experiencing this problem:

1) You put your Mac to sleep

2) You return to it after some time and you find it on.

3) On screen you find this error message "Your computer restarted because of a problem." or similar, and in the report of the error message the Event is "Sleep Wake Failure" or similar.

 

If your Mac does not wake from sleep this is NOT the thread for you, please don’t write here.

If your Mac is experiencing black screens and freezes while waking up from sleep this is NOT the thread for you, please don’t write here.

 

This thread is a continuation to the “New rMBP sleep/wake failure crashes” thread.

 

I’m trying to better understand this problem. Allow me to ask you some questions. After you answer the first 5 question, feel free to write freely in this thread. (as longs as you are pertinent to this issue)

 

Please answer this questions carefully. If we get enough people to answer, I will personally slap this thread on the face of every Apple employee I can find, so they will have to stop saying  "we never heard of this issue" and we can get a quick fix or a quick replacement if this is indeed an hardware issue.

 

 

PLEASE ANWSER THIS QUESTIONS BEFORE WRITING IN THIS THREAD FOR THE FIRST TIME

I suggest you copy and paste the questions below in your reply, and replace the text ANSWER with your answer.

 

 

 

1. Which Mac do you have? (If you have this issue with multiple machines, list them here)

ANSWER

 

2. When did the problem start? If you had Mountain Lion installed on this machine, did the problem start when you updated to Mavericks?

ANSWER

 

3. Did you have your Mac replaced from Apple because of this issue? If yes, does the new machine still have the problem?

ANSWER

 

4. Does your machine crash/reboot while on sleep only if you have an external hard drive connected?

ANSWER

 

5. Does your machine crash/reboot even if you uncheck "Enable Power Nap" in Preferences, Energy Saver? (before answering this, check that you have updated OS X to 10.9.1 and that you have unchecked Power Nap in both the Battery and Power Adapter tabs in Energy Saver)

ANSWER

 

OPTIONAL QUESTIONS

 

6. Do you have an external hard drive connected via USB? If yes, write the manufacturer name and model name of the drive. (example: Western Digital My Book)

ANSWER

 

7. Do you have a network connected drive? (like Time Capsule or an external hard drive connected to an AirPort Extreme, or a NAS)

ANSWER

 

8. Do you have Time Machine Enabled?

ANSWER

 

9. Do you have Crashplan installed?

ANSWER

 

10. How much time does it usually take for the first crash/reboot to happen, after you put the computer on sleep?

ANSWER

 

11. If you have a late 2013 MacBook Pro Retina, do you have discrete graphics in it? (In other words: do you have an NVIDIA GPU? If you don't know this, go into the menu bar, click the apple icon, click About This Mac, Click More Info, in Graphics you should find written “NVIDIA GeForce”.)

ANSWER

 

 

 

PS

Please forgive any mistakes in this text, unfortunately english is not my native language.

 

 

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Posted on Dec 22, 2013 8:37 PM

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  • by De Smeester,

    De Smeester De Smeester Feb 12, 2014 11:56 AM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 12, 2014 11:56 AM in response to hailalistair

    Hello everyone,

     

    I have been following this thread with interest almost daily, as I have been severely experiencing the same issues from the day my MacBook Air came out of the box (Mavericks pre-installed). Here's my answers to the questions:


    1. Which Mac do you have? (If you have this issue with multiple machines, list them here)

    13inch MacBook Air, late 2013. 8GB Ram, 256 Gb Storage, 1.7 GHz

     

    2. When did the problem start? If you had Mountain Lion installed on this machine, did the problem start when you updated to Mavericks?

    Immediately after it came out of the box it was shipped in. This was late December 2013. It came with Mavericks 9.0 pre-installed, and I immediately updated it to 10.9.1. I don't know if it already crashed/rebooted in 10.9.0.

     

    3. Did you have your Mac replaced from Apple because of this issue? If yes, does the new machine still have the problem?

    No, not replaced (yet?)

     

    4. Does your machine crash/reboot while on sleep only if you have an external hard drive connected?

    I rarely if ever have an external hard drive connected; it crashes and restarts without any external device.

     

    5. Does your machine crash/reboot even if you uncheck "Enable Power Nap" in Preferences, Energy Saver? (before answering this, check that you have updated OS X to 10.9.1 and that you have unchecked Power Nap in both the Battery and Power Adapter tabs in Energy Saver)

    Yes, even after all mentioned unchecking, it crashes and reboots frequently while in sleep mode.

     

    OPTIONAL QUESTIONS

     

    6. Do you have an external hard drive connected via USB? If yes, write the manufacturer name and model name of the drive. (example: Western Digital My Book)

    Rarely if ever have an external hard drive connected.

     

    7. Do you have a network connected drive? (like Time Capsule or an external hard drive connected to an AirPort Extreme, or a NAS)

    No.

     

    8. Do you have Time Machine Enabled?

    No.

     

    9. Do you have Crashplan installed?

    No.

     

    10. How much time does it usually take for the first crash/reboot to happen, after you put the computer on sleep?

    It varies. Sometimes it won't crash for many hours, other times it will crash within the hour. I do have the suspicion it will crash/reboot more frequently in the same sleep as time progresses. Typically, after having been in sleep mode for a night or so, it will crash/reboot every 10 minutes while in the beginning of that sleep mode it crashed 'only' every few hours. I haven't studied it in detail, though.

     

    11. If you have a late 2013 MacBook Pro Retina, do you have discrete graphics in it? (In other words: do you have an NVIDIA GPU? If you don't know this, go into the menu bar, click the apple icon, click About This Mac, Click More Info, in Graphics you should find written “NVIDIA GeForce”.)

    Not applicable

     

     

    As stated above, I have been following this thread daily with the greatest of interest, as my late 2013 MacBook Air crashes/reboots during sleep mode quite frequently and persistently. I have already been to an Apple retailer asking the people there for advice (They hadn't heard of this issue yet. They advice me to wait till the next Mavericks update) and to an offical Apple repair store (the guy hadn't heard of the crash before, and immediately 'concluded' that it must be a hardware issue). Today I made an appointment with a Genius Bar, so they can take a look at it. I hope something will be done soon, I am a little annoyed that a 1500 euro machine has such a persistant and unnecessary issue, right out of the box!
    I will keep this thread posted on the developments..

  • by budkin,

    budkin budkin Feb 12, 2014 6:32 PM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 12, 2014 6:32 PM in response to hailalistair

    1. Which Mac do you have? (If you have this issue with multiple machines, list them here)

    15" MBP Retina Late 2013 with NVIDIA card

     

    2. When did the problem start? If you had Mountain Lion installed on this machine, did the problem start when you updated to Mavericks?

    About 2 months after I got it (January 2014)

     

    3. Did you have your Mac replaced from Apple because of this issue? If yes, does the new machine still have the problem?

    NO

     

    4. Does your machine crash/reboot while on sleep only if you have an external hard drive connected?

    NO

     

    5. Does your machine crash/reboot even if you uncheck "Enable Power Nap" in Preferences, Energy Saver? (before answering this, check that you have updated OS X to 10.9.1 and that you have unchecked Power Nap in both the Battery and Power Adapter tabs in Energy Saver)

    YES

     

    OPTIONAL QUESTIONS

     

    6. Do you have an external hard drive connected via USB? If yes, write the manufacturer name and model name of the drive. (example: Western Digital My Book)

    NO

     

    7. Do you have a network connected drive? (like Time Capsule or an external hard drive connected to an AirPort Extreme, or a NAS)

    NO

     

    8. Do you have Time Machine Enabled?

    NO

     

    9. Do you have Crashplan installed?

    YES

     

    10. How much time does it usually take for the first crash/reboot to happen, after you put the computer on sleep?

    1-2 hours

     

    11. If you have a late 2013 MacBook Pro Retina, do you have discrete graphics in it? (In other words: do you have an NVIDIA GPU? If you don't know this, go into the menu bar, click the apple icon, click About This Mac, Click More Info, in Graphics you should find written “NVIDIA GeForce”.)

    YES

  • by sumitkumar3011,

    sumitkumar3011 sumitkumar3011 Feb 15, 2014 11:22 PM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 15, 2014 11:22 PM in response to hailalistair

    PLEASE ANWSER THIS QUESTIONS BEFORE WRITING IN THIS THREAD FOR THE FIRST TIME

    Hi

    i am having same problem and that thing crashed my external hard disk leads to loss of all my important data.

     

     

    1. Which Mac do you have? (If you have this issue with multiple machines, list them here)

    MacAir 2014

     

    2. When did the problem start? If you had Mountain Lion installed on this machine, did the problem start when you updated to Mavericks?

    ANSWER

    This problem just ocurred on 14-feb-2014. i have not installed mountain lion.

     

    3. Did you have your Mac replaced from Apple because of this issue? If yes, does the new machine still have the problem?

    ANSWER

    No i have just bought the new mac air on 10-Feb-2014.

     

    4. Does your machine crash/reboot while on sleep only if you have an external hard drive connected?

    ANSWER

    yes that crash my external 500 GB hard disk.

     

     

    5. Does your machine crash/reboot even if you uncheck "Enable Power Nap" in Preferences, Energy Saver? (before answering this, check that you have updated OS X to 10.9.1 and that you have unchecked Power Nap in both the Battery and Power Adapter tabs in Energy Saver)

    ANSWER

    i have already unchecked.

     

     

    Hope to have some favourable reply.

     

    Do you have any suggestion to extract my data from that crashed  hard disk. If so then please tell me.

  • by AlanLondon,

    AlanLondon AlanLondon Feb 16, 2014 1:17 AM in response to sumitkumar3011
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    Feb 16, 2014 1:17 AM in response to sumitkumar3011

    Hi,

     

    Sumitkumar, maybe this will be helpful. It depends on the format you use on your external drive. I have been having the sleep/wake crashes for months (since new) on my Macbook Pro. I now no longer leave the drive connected when leaving the computer (unless I forget!).

     

    A couple of times in addition to the usual crash taking place, I have had an error message that the drive was ejected improperly (presumably at the time of the crash). I have then found that the drive has corrupted and that the Mac cannot read it.

     

    I opened disk utility and tried the 'repair' dialogue, but this failed and I was told that Mac could not recover from the problem. My drive was formatted in Exfat, as I need to read it on both Mac and sometimes on Windows, so I took it to my son's Windows machine.

     

    I plugged it in, and selected Scan and Fix. After about 2 minutes the drive was recognised and a message appeared that errors had been found and fixed. My Mac could then read it normally again.

     

    When this problem happened a second time (and was fixed the same way) I became much more careful to eject the drive before leaving the computer.

     

    It is very disappointing to have this issue still unfixed after several months on an expensive new machine, and frankly embarassing that I need to use a Windows machine to fix a fault with the Mac.

  • by Dr5baitso,

    Dr5baitso Dr5baitso Feb 17, 2014 1:14 PM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 17, 2014 1:14 PM in response to hailalistair

    1. Which Mac do you have? (If you have this issue with multiple machines, list them here)

    Late 2013 13" rMBP 2.4/256/8

     

    2. When did the problem start? If you had Mountain Lion installed on this machine, did the problem start when you updated to Mavericks?

    Possibly after unchecking "put hard disks to sleep whenever possible", though not sure.

     

    3. Did you have your Mac replaced from Apple because of this issue? If yes, does the new machine still have the problem?

    No (at least not yet)

     

    4. Does your machine crash/reboot while on sleep only if you have an external hard drive connected?

    No. Reboot with no peripherals.

     

    5. Does your machine crash/reboot even if you uncheck "Enable Power Nap" in Preferences, Energy Saver? (before answering this, check that you have updated OS X to 10.9.1 and that you have unchecked Power Nap in both the Battery and Power Adapter tabs in Energy Saver)

    Powernap unchecked, still reboot.

     

    OPTIONAL QUESTIONS

     

    6. Do you have an external hard drive connected via USB? If yes, write the manufacturer name and model name of the drive. (example: Western Digital My Book)

    No.

     

    7. Do you have a network connected drive? (like Time Capsule or an external hard drive connected to an AirPort Extreme, or a NAS)

    Yes. WD MyBook world II.

     

    8. Do you have Time Machine Enabled?

    Yes

     

    9. Do you have Crashplan installed?

    No.

     

    10. How much time does it usually take for the first crash/reboot to happen, after you put the computer on sleep?

    Around 2 hours.

     

    11. If you have a late 2013 MacBook Pro Retina, do you have discrete graphics in it? (In other words: do you have an NVIDIA GPU? If you don't know this, go into the menu bar, click the apple icon, click About This Mac, Click More Info, in Graphics you should find written “NVIDIA GeForce”.)

    No. Iris graphics.

     

    Bought my rMBP after finally returning my MBA for black screen crashes. This is annoying. Read the 15-page thread, now I'm on to this one. Thanks everyone for sharing youre experiences.

  • by Dr5baitso,

    Dr5baitso Dr5baitso Feb 17, 2014 11:25 PM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 17, 2014 11:25 PM in response to hailalistair

    For whatever it's worth, in preparation for calling apple today, I verified the disk which told me it needed repairing. I did the repair, and no reboot tonight.

    I'm also considering the possibility that it is when I close the lid while time machine is backing up, but I have yet to investigate this.

     

    hailalistair: did you get a case id I could refer to?

  • by benwils,

    benwils benwils Feb 21, 2014 12:37 AM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 21, 2014 12:37 AM in response to hailalistair

    1. Which Mac do you have? (If you have this issue with multiple machines, list them here)

    MacBooc Pro Retina 13 inch late 2013, 2.8 intel, 8gb, 500gb

     

    2. When did the problem start? If you had Mountain Lion installed on this machine, did the problem start when you updated to Mavericks?

    Problem been here since purchase

     

    3. Did you have your Mac replaced from Apple because of this issue? If yes, does the new machine still have the problem?

    No

     

    4. Does your machine crash/reboot while on sleep only if you have an external hard drive connected?

    Having external drive connected makes no difference.

     

    5. Does your machine crash/reboot even if you uncheck "Enable Power Nap" in Preferences, Energy Saver? (before answering this, check that you have updated OS X to 10.9.1 and that you have unchecked Power Nap in both the Battery and Power Adapter tabs in Energy Saver)

    Not tried

     

    OPTIONAL QUESTIONS

     

    6. Do you have an external hard drive connected via USB? If yes, write the manufacturer name and model name of the drive. (example: Western Digital My Book)

    No

     

    7. Do you have a network connected drive? (like Time Capsule or an external hard drive connected to an AirPort Extreme, or a NAS)

    Yes, Airport Extreme Timne Capsule

     

    8. Do you have Time Machine Enabled?

    Yes

     

    9. Do you have Crashplan installed?

    No

     

    10. How much time does it usually take for the first crash/reboot to happen, after you put the computer on sleep?

    Couple of hours

     

    11. If you have a late 2013 MacBook Pro Retina, do you have discrete graphics in it? (In other words: do you have an NVIDIA GPU? If you don't know this, go into the menu bar, click the apple icon, click About This Mac, Click More Info, in Graphics you should find written “NVIDIA GeForce”.)

    No - Interl Iris 2014mb

  • by castroneves,

    castroneves castroneves Feb 25, 2014 11:28 AM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 25, 2014 11:28 AM in response to hailalistair

    1. Which Mac do you have? (If you have this issue with multiple machines, list them here)

    Macbook Pro Retina late 2013 (11,3). 512Gb SSD, 16Gb RAM, 2.6Ghz i7

     

    2. When did the problem start? If you had Mountain Lion installed on this machine, did the problem start when you updated to Mavericks?

    On purchase (with Mavericks)

     

    3. Did you have your Mac replaced from Apple because of this issue? If yes, does the new machine still have the problem?

    No

     

    4. Does your machine crash/reboot while on sleep only if you have an external hard drive connected?

    Yes

     

    5. Does your machine crash/reboot even if you uncheck "Enable Power Nap" in Preferences, Energy Saver? (before answering this, check that you have updated OS X to 10.9.1 and that you have unchecked Power Nap in both the Battery and Power Adapter tabs in Energy Saver)

    Haven't tried it. Will do tonight.

     

    OPTIONAL QUESTIONS

    6. Do you have an external hard drive connected via USB? If yes, write the manufacturer name and model name of the drive. (example: Western Digital My Book)

    WD My Book Studio 2TB Mac External Hard Drive Storage USB 3.0

     

    7. Do you have a network connected drive? (like Time Capsule or an external hard drive connected to an AirPort Extreme, or a NAS)

    No

     

    8. Do you have Time Machine Enabled?

    Yes. The WD is partitioned. 2TB for files and 1TB for Time Machine

     

    9. Do you have Crashplan installed?

    No

     

    10. How much time does it usually take for the first crash/reboot to happen, after you put the computer on sleep?

    An hour or so

     

    11. If you have a late 2013 MacBook Pro Retina, do you have discrete graphics in it?

    Yes

  • by Dr5baitso,

    Dr5baitso Dr5baitso Feb 25, 2014 11:48 AM in response to castroneves
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    Feb 25, 2014 11:48 AM in response to castroneves

    Has anyone for whom this issue is easily repeatable been able to test whether or not it is still present with 10.9.2? Supposedly it solves a sleep/wake issue with the MBA, and it would seem reasonable if more related issues were addressed as well.

  • by hailalistair,

    hailalistair hailalistair Feb 25, 2014 12:15 PM in response to Dr5baitso
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    Feb 25, 2014 12:15 PM in response to Dr5baitso

    I haven't tried it, but I sure hope that 10.9.2 fixes it.

  • by budkin,

    budkin budkin Feb 25, 2014 12:22 PM in response to Dr5baitso
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    Feb 25, 2014 12:22 PM in response to Dr5baitso

    Going to update now and see what happens.

  • by Swierqman,

    Swierqman Swierqman Feb 25, 2014 12:40 PM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 25, 2014 12:40 PM in response to hailalistair

    Guys i have something to add. Since I installed Parallels Desktop 9.0 with Windows XP, I manage my virtual windows FAT,NTFS external disc and pendrive's, I have no restarts and wake/sleep issues. Last time i had 13,5 days without restart by doing everything the same. Next day i had to restart manual coz of new software installed, than i did not turn on my Parallels and my Macbook restart in maybe next 6 hours. Now it's turned on and minimalized, everything works great (using 3G modem, External Disc and sometimes plugged pendrive).

     

    Maybe that tip can help someone, bye.

  • by iOSdeveloperPDX,

    iOSdeveloperPDX iOSdeveloperPDX Feb 25, 2014 5:11 PM in response to hailalistair
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    Feb 25, 2014 5:11 PM in response to hailalistair

    1. Which Mac do you have? (If you have this issue with multiple machines, list them here)

    rMBP late 2013, 2.3GHz i7

     

    2. When did the problem start? If you had Mountain Lion installed on this machine, did the problem start when you updated to Mavericks?

    This machine has only had 10.9, and started shortly after purchase.

     

    3. Did you have your Mac replaced from Apple because of this issue? If yes, does the new machine still have the problem?

    No, I have not replaced it.

     

    4. Does your machine crash/reboot while on sleep only if you have an external hard drive connected?

    I do not have any external HDD physically attached, only wirelessly and no WD

     

    5. Does your machine crash/reboot even if you uncheck "Enable Power Nap" in Preferences, Energy Saver? (before answering this, check that you have updated OS X to 10.9.1 and that you have unchecked Power Nap in both the Battery and Power Adapter tabs in Energy Saver)

    Yes.

     

    OPTIONAL QUESTIONS

     

    6. Do you have an external hard drive connected via USB? If yes, write the manufacturer name and model name of the drive. (example: Western Digital My Book)

    Nothing connected via USB.  I have a thunderbolt ethernet connection only.  Ext HDD are wireless over Server

     

    7. Do you have a network connected drive? (like Time Capsule or an external hard drive connected to an AirPort Extreme, or a NAS)

    Yes, several

     

    8. Do you have Time Machine Enabled?

    Yes

     

    9. Do you have Crashplan installed?

    No

     

    10. How much time does it usually take for the first crash/reboot to happen, after you put the computer on sleep?

    a few hours

     

    11. If you have a late 2013 MacBook Pro Retina, do you have discrete graphics in it? (In other words: do you have an NVIDIA GPU? If you don't know this, go into the menu bar, click the apple icon, click About This Mac, Click More Info, in Graphics you should find written “NVIDIA GeForce”.)

    Yes

  • by AlanLondon,

    AlanLondon AlanLondon Feb 26, 2014 1:37 AM in response to budkin
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    Feb 26, 2014 1:37 AM in response to budkin

    This issue is not listed on the Apple list of issues resolved by the update. When I went to the Genius bar with my machine they had not heard of it. I said there was a thread all about it on the discussions forum and was told that if I look on the Internet I could find all sorts of issues, real and imagined. This didn't exactly fill me with confidence that it was being addressed.

     

    I will update, but am on the road at the moment and only have the issue when back home with the peripherals connected so won't know if it helps for about 6 weeks. Please post your experience with 10.9.2

  • by Peter Almere,

    Peter Almere Peter Almere Feb 26, 2014 3:23 AM in response to AlanLondon
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:23 AM in response to AlanLondon

    After update to 10.9.2:

     

    So far So good........

     

    I left my WDmybook that I use solely for TimeMachine connected through the USB port. I did not hear any restart after putting it to sleep. I had powernap enabled. But this is only one night.......

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