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Q: I get empty CMYK values

To adjust colors I need the CMYK values.

However it returns ony zeros instead of %values.

I can choose RGB and these are shown, but I need the CMYK values. Any Idea what I can do?

Thanks for your kind help!

Guenter

Aperture 3, OS X Mavericks (10.9.1)

Posted on Dec 22, 2013 6:25 AM

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Dec 22, 2013 7:30 AM in response to nobullguy
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    Dec 22, 2013 7:30 AM in response to nobullguy

    Aperture supports only RGB, as recorded by most cameras.

     

    Do you need a calculator for RGB to CMYK?  Try this webpage:

     

    http://web.forret.com/tools/color.asp

     

    -- Léonie

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Dec 22, 2013 7:42 AM in response to léonie
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    Dec 22, 2013 7:42 AM in response to léonie

    Léonie -- I don't think this is correct ...

    léonie wrote:

     

    Aperture supports only RGB, as recorded by most cameras.

    ... or, is not correct in the specific case the OP seems to be asking about.

     

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=17%26se ction=12%26tasks=true

    http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=6%26sec tion=7%26tasks=true

     

    Kirby_Capture85.jpg

    I think the OP should try Images with Originals of different file types, and if none show CMYK values, trash his/her prefs.  What do you think?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Dec 22, 2013 9:36 AM in response to Kirby Krieger
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    Dec 22, 2013 9:36 AM in response to Kirby Krieger

    Thank you Kirby, I misunderstood Guenter's question - sorry Guenter.

    I was sidetrackt by this manual page: http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=4%26sec tion=2%26tasks=true

     

    But my Aperture Loupe and Color Meter are terminally set to display RGB - I could really never make it show CMYK.

     

    Where the manual shows the cogwheel for the color options, I am seeing the "Auto Enhance" button. I don't remember, when I changed the layout of the GUI and how. It has been this way for a very long time.

     

    I think the OP should try Images with Originals of different file types, and if none show CMYK values, trash his/her prefs.  What do you think?

    I can only guess, Kirby, as I cannot reproduce your result, but trying with different file types sounds good. What image format did you use?

    If it does not work for Guenther with the file format you used, I'd indeed try to trash the preferences.

  • by nobullguy,

    nobullguy nobullguy Dec 22, 2013 10:31 AM in response to nobullguy
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    Dec 22, 2013 10:31 AM in response to nobullguy

    Hi Leonie and Kirby

    Thanks for the reply. I actually can switch the mode RGB, CMYK and so on by a right click in the line where the figrues are shown. It changes at the time the mode in this very window as well as in the loupe.

    However it alsways just shows the RGB and wont accept the CMYK mode. There it only provides zero values.

    This happens (I guess) since the latest update 5 days ago.

    Best regards

    Guenter

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Dec 22, 2013 10:56 AM in response to léonie
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    Dec 22, 2013 10:56 AM in response to léonie

    léonie wrote:

     

    Where the manual shows the cogwheel for the color options, I am seeing the "Auto Enhance" button.

    At some point the Action Menu (a/k/a "the gear icon") was migrated down to the bottom right of the Adjustments panel.  That's where it is on my 3.4.5 installation.  (Pet peeve: Apple moves these with what seems to be every revision of every app.)

     

    Or -- per Guenter -- you can right-click the actual numerical display histogram displayed at the top of the Adjustments Inspector.

  • by Kirby Krieger,

    Kirby Krieger Kirby Krieger Dec 22, 2013 10:59 AM in response to nobullguy
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    Dec 22, 2013 10:59 AM in response to nobullguy

    Again, the best I can suggest is to delete your Aperture preferences file and reboot.

     

    If the problem persists, report it to Apple via "Aperture➞Provide Aperture Feedback".

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Dec 22, 2013 11:25 AM in response to nobullguy
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    Dec 22, 2013 11:25 AM in response to nobullguy

    However it alsways just shows the RGB and wont accept the CMYK mode. There it only provides zero values.

    This happens (I guess) since the latest update 5 days ago.

    Now I can see the CMYK too - thank you both! Aperture 3.5.1 - it works well with jpeg, Canon raw, tiff, dng, psd.

    Screen Shot 2013-12-22 at 20.04.13.png

     

    Günther,

    do you know, how to find your Aperture preferences file to try to delete it?

     

    The User Library (username/Library) is hidden by default in Mac OS X (10.7.5).

     

    To open it in a Finder window use the "Go" menu from the Finder's main menu bar:

     

    • Quit Aperture, if it is running. Log off and on again.
    • Open the user library by using the Finder's "Go > Go to Folder" menu and hold down the options-key  ⌥ , until "Library" appears in the drop down menu. Select it.
    • In the widow that will open, scroll down to "Preferences"
    • From the "Preferences" folder  remove "com.apple.Aperture.plist".

     

    Then try to launch Aperture again.

     

    (see this link: Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics )

     


  • by nobullguy,

    nobullguy nobullguy Dec 22, 2013 11:51 AM in response to nobullguy
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    Dec 22, 2013 11:51 AM in response to nobullguy

    Thanx Leonie

    I have deleted the prefs and relaunched.

    However it didn't solve my problem. Still just get zero values.

    This happens on 2 mac book pro Retina simultaneously.

    I really dont know what else could cause this.

    As I can see in your copy it works.

     

    Screenshot 2013-12-22 20.45.00.png

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Dec 22, 2013 12:07 PM in response to nobullguy
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    Dec 22, 2013 12:07 PM in response to nobullguy

    And did you log off and on after quitting Aperture? The preferences deletion may not take, if you do not log off.

     

    If it is happening on two macs in the same way, there may be a system wide problem. Try, if you can see the CMYK values, if you launch Aperture from a new user account. Create another account in the System Preferences, Users&Groups. Don't change any settings - keep it pristine.

    Launch Aperture, import some image, try to see CMYK. Does it work? If you are having the same problem in a new account, trashing of preferences is useless.

     

    Have you installed any other software at the same time as the last update? Any helpers, plug-ins, anything?

  • by nobullguy,

    nobullguy nobullguy Dec 22, 2013 12:25 PM in response to nobullguy
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    Dec 22, 2013 12:25 PM in response to nobullguy

    No I haven't installed anything since the last update. Except for FCPX latest version.

     

    I have just tried and run aperture in a new user on the same mbp.

    Same result I get the zero values.

    (Hmm..  I guess I will have to try lightroom. Wonder if they show the cmyk values. This is really important to me to get these correct values, as I do color corrections from it.)

    Maybe I should totally uninstall and then re install the program.

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Dec 22, 2013 1:05 PM in response to nobullguy
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    Dec 22, 2013 1:05 PM in response to nobullguy

    I also have Final Cut  installed, but Final Cut Pro 10.1.

     

    Maybe I should totally uninstall and then re install the program.

     

    There may be a previous installation of older software interfering. Plug-ins, device drivers, video codecs, any kernel extensions. Have you checked with the manufacturers, of all your plug-ins are compatible?

     

    You could run the free EtreCheck - a little script written by one of our fellow posters here to get a list of all extensions that might be problematic. Download it here and compare the list between your computers.

     

    Etresoft: EtreCheck

     

    Try first to reinstall Aperture - just delete it from the applications folder (do not empty the trash), sign into the AppStore and download again.