Working with multiple computers (laptop + desktop)

Has anyone found Photo Stream to actually be useful? I keep my main iPhoto library on my Mac mini at home, but often when I'm traveling I load all of my photos onto my MacBook. However, it looks like iPhoto on the MacBook only sends the original RAW images to iCloud, and none of the edits; if I explicitly send the edits to iCloud, then those get downloaded as separate JPEG images (rather than being associated with the RAW masters). So, I either end up with duplicate photos in my library or need to re-edit them (or hold off on editing until I get home).


Also, it looks like event information doesn't get synchronized either, so if I do multiple separate events on a single day, I have to split and rename them on both computers.


This seems less than useful.


Does anyone know of any better ways of dealing with this use case? ("Just do all your photo work on the MacBook" is not a useful answer.)


Is this something that Aperture handles better? Because I'd happily switch to Aperture if it actually has the multiple-computer use case covered.

Mac mini, OS X Mavericks (10.9.1), 2.7GHz i7, 8GB RAM, 1TB SSD

Posted on Dec 28, 2013 10:26 PM

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Dec 28, 2013 10:43 PM in response to fluffy

Has anyone found Photo Stream to actually be useful?

Yes -- I do and lots and lots of people find PhotoStream useful


However, it looks like iPhoto on the MacBook only sends the original RAW images to iCloud, and none of the edits;

Correct - PS stream contains exactly what you pur in it - once you add it to PS there is no connection to the original photo


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f I explicitly send the edits to iCloud, then those get downloaded as separate JPEG images (rather than being associated with the RAW masters).

Again correct - each photo you put into PS is seperate and is not assoicated with any previous PS photo


So, I either end up with duplicate photos in my library or need to re-edit them (or hold off on editing until I get home).


Or wait to upload to PS until you have edited the photos


Also, it looks like event information doesn't get synchronized either, so if I do multiple separate events on a single day, I have to split and rename them on both computers.

Not clear - all PS photos imported via the iPhoto automatic import go into an event per month


As to APerture - no - it does not handle PS differently than iPhoto


LN

Dec 28, 2013 10:56 PM in response to LarryHN

"Yes -- I do and lots and lots of people find PhotoStream useful"


For what, exactly?


"Or wait to upload to PS until you have edited the photos"


But then I no longer have the original RAW in case I want to re-edit, and anyway Photo Stream uploads everything immediately with no action from me. I want all my photos that are on my laptop to also be on my desktop in both original and edited form, tied together.


"As to APerture - no - it does not handle PS differently than iPhoto"


I don't care about Photo Stream itself, I care about the use case of using multiple computers to edit the same sets of photos, which Aperture does in fact explicitly support (via Library Merge), so I have just gone and purchased that.

Dec 28, 2013 11:01 PM in response to fluffy

For what, exactly?


for moving photos between devices - which is what it does


But then I no longer have the original RAW in case I want to re-edit, and anyway Photo Stream uploads everything immediately with no action from me. I want all my photos that are on my laptop to also be on my desktop in both original and edited form, tied together.

You can not do that - there is (once again) no connection between photos uploaded to PS at different times



I don't care about Photo Stream itself, I care about the use case of using multiple computers to edit the same sets of photos, which Aperture does in fact explicitly support (via Library Merge), so I have just gone and purchased that.


Great - unfortuantly your question was about PS and iPhoto so that is what the answers were about


LN

Dec 29, 2013 8:17 AM in response to Yer_Man

I was using it to move events from my current work library to an archive library stored on a NAS. It consistently lost all event associations, and would often crash halfway through leaving both libraries in an inconsistent state. Big mess to clean up after. This was with version 3.x; the current version might be better, but I played with it a bit before starting this thread and it just looked like a new coat of paint over the same crappy setup.

Dec 29, 2013 8:25 AM in response to Yer_Man

What makes you say that? A NAS is just another disk as far as OSX applications are concerned. I wasn't accessing it from multiple computers at once, just from my (singular, at the time) laptop. NAS only becomes an issue with multiple simultaneous users, which wasn't the case.


Anyway, that aspect isn't as big a deal for me now; I have a desktop machine with a large disk that can keep everything in one place.


Also, anyway, I already bought Aperture and it's working way better than even the current demo of iPhoto Library Manager, so I consider this issue closed for me.

Dec 29, 2013 8:30 AM in response to fluffy

THis is a totally incorrect statement


What makes you say that? A NAS is just another disk as far as OSX applications are concerned.

The iPhoto libraray (and the Aperature and the Time Machine backup) must always be on a volume formatted Mac OS extended (journaled)


THey can not be on a NAS since it can not be correctly formatted


LN

Dec 29, 2013 9:11 AM in response to fluffy

iPhoto needs to have the Library sitting on disk formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Users with the Library sitting on disks otherwise formatted regularly report issues including, but not limited to, importing, exporting, saving edits and sharing the photos.


See this article


http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5168


for more. Note also the comment:


“Additionally, storing the iPhoto library on a network rather than locally on your computer can also lead to poor performance or data loss.”


And, in the case of Aperture - which now shares the same library:


http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3252?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US


ALso, a NAS is not "just another disk". It's a headless computer with it's own OS - that's what makes the networking possible.

Dec 29, 2013 11:45 AM in response to Yer_Man

Hi Terence,


Sorry for jumping here as i have a similar doubt.


Today I have 2 macs and 2 libraries sitting on each local HD which are independently managed and backed up.


I bought the Airport Extreme + external HD. It will be my shared network folder.


Would it work well if I merge and move the libraries to one location, this shared drive in my network, and have the iphotos from both machines accessing the file directly there?

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