Photo's appear over saturated when viewed in iPhoto!

My photos look awful when viewed in iPhoto. Yet if I export or double click and send to Photoshop, they look fine!

Can someone look at this screen shot please? The one on the right is the iPhoto album. I double clicked on it and it went to PS, that is the one on the left.

www.eyefetch.com/Portfolio%5CTangoCharlie%5C68057.jpg

The one on the left is how it should be. You can clearly see what iPhoto does to my photos (just for viewing). look at the jeans and bright saturation!

Photos look awful in iPhoto, I cant even think about editing ion iPhoto!

iBook G4, Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Jul 24, 2006 11:45 AM

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Jul 29, 2006 11:51 AM in response to katmania

And, yet another test on my PowerBook G4...

After removing the profile from a photo, I open it in PhotoShop (color management off). The image appears fine. If I open it in PhotoShop keeping the embedded profile, it appears saturated.

I re-import it into iPhoto and it becomes even MORE saturated than before. I get the same result whether I have the "add ColorSync profile" checked or not in iPhoto preferences. This is truly bizarre.

I give up.

Kat

Jul 29, 2006 12:21 PM in response to katmania

Thanks for doing the tests Kat. I thionk we are ending up going around in circles. We gotto try and keep it simple.

I have noticed that if I view my other Mac's iPhoto(5) library through iPhoto 6, via Wi-fi, it looks fine!!

It must simply be an importing issue. When the files are imported into iPhoto 6 they appear over saturated.

I cant believe its only us that has this issue.

Oh, my monitors profile was calibrated by using a Huey calibration tool! Put it this way, my Mac Mini using iPhoto 5 is bloody exellent!

Tc

Jul 29, 2006 1:07 PM in response to Tc7

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Apple comes up with a fix very soon. At least I can view my work-related photos accurately through PhotoShop. Though I like to organize my family pics in iPhoto. Now I know not to adjust any colors through iPhoto.

I'm happy to know it's not only me who's having this problem. I thought I had done something wrong.

Kat

Aug 25, 2006 1:23 AM in response to katmania

I have exactly the same problem with a Canon Ixus..(I have to check if I have the latest version of Iphoto).

To all the people having this color profile problem, can I ask which camera you are using?

I thought that Canon Ixus are quite common cameras.. and this question is going to appear more and more on every forum on Iphoto.

As someone quoted, iphoto is beyond a joke on this point.
However, as long as you don't have this trouble, I suppose nobody notices.

Well, I'm just waiting that Picasa is ported into the Mac.

Aug 29, 2006 10:20 AM in response to Tc7

Hi all,

I'm having the same problem as well.

I tinkered with the PSE3 and iPhoto6 options as OldToad and other fellow members were suggesting in this thread and found that the following setting have helped a lot in reducing the over-saturation problem, especially in terms of skin tones.

I am not a native english speaker so I just attempted to translate my settings into the relevant english ones: hopefully you will be able to get the option I will be referring to:

In iPhoto: uncheck "add colorsync profile"

In PSE3:

1) color management > set to "complete color management"

2) preferences > general > color selector -> set to "Apple"

3) preferences > file saving > check "ignore Exif profiles"

Could you please try the above and see if it helps?

Also, as I am not aware whether these settings affect other aspects of the whole iPhoto/PSE workflow, did anyone find a definite solution to the problem?

Aug 29, 2006 4:24 PM in response to Synapse78

Re: my above post, I would point out that my pix look totally fine in iPhoto when imported directly from the camera.
The problem only shows up after opening the pix in PSE and re-importing them, after that, in iPhoto.
That's why the settings I suggested above seemed to help.

Still I don't recall having this problem before, so my guess is that some recent update must be the culprit.

FWIW, I'm using a Canon Ixus as well.

Oct 17, 2006 5:06 PM in response to Tc7

Ok, I am sufficiently confused now after reading all these strings on the topic of iPhoto displaying oversaturated images .

Can someone explain in a less technical manner to me what I should do so that images that I enhanced using iPhoto (because I love all their new easy to use functions - hey, I am an amateur and this is supposed to be made easy for people like me, right?) do not appear less dull when I upload them to a website?

I import straight from my camera (Kodak LS743) into iPhoto.

If anyone can explain this to me in simple terms I would be very grateful!!

Thanks,

Kerstin

Oct 17, 2006 6:08 PM in response to Tc7

I think I figured out the problem the last time this issue came up, and I thought I posted the answer, but I guess I didn't (or I can't find it)

Did any of you having the problem happen to calibrate your monitor, and check the box called "Use native gamma" during the calibration? I stumbled upon this being the cause for the solarization/over-saturation. I don't know why, but not using "native gamma" seems to correct the problem.

Or, pick one of the standard color profiles in the Displays preference in System Preferences.

If this works, could we get a show of hands? It worked for me but I don't know for sure if that fixes it for everyone.

Oct 18, 2006 12:10 AM in response to Dave E

But it has nothing to do with displays!

Four applications look fine on a display and iPhoto doesnt! That rules out the display/monitor.

Look about four posts above for the answer. It has to do with colour profiles and photoshop grabbing the wrong profile from iPhoto. sRGB is the best profile (for printing and websites) you can add.

Tc

Oct 18, 2006 4:49 PM in response to Tc7

But that's my point, I do NOT want to have to use photoshop to enhance my photos.

I download my photos straight into iPhoto and then use the iPhoto functions to enhance it, i.e. the "enhance" button, or the "boost color".

Once I am happy with the result (which looks great in iPhoto) I upload my photos from iPhoto straight into flickr.com. And to my disappointment they look a lot duller there than they did in iPhoto.

So, lately I am still importing into iPhoto and then use photoshop to enhance the photos before uploading them. But this is a real pain and a lot of extra steps that I would like to avoid.

I tried unchecking the "Add ColorSync Profile" button but that made no difference.

I called the Apple help desk about this and the iPhoto "specialist" had never heard of this problem. I pointed him to these discussion strings but he could offer no solution, either, I don't think he really understood the problem.

Basically, I want to be able to use iPhoto for all my photo needs but at this rate I can't and that is a real pain.

Thanks for your replies.

Oct 18, 2006 5:17 PM in response to Tc7

Actually, it doesn't rule out the display/monitor. The profile iPhoto is using to display the photos seems to be conflicting with the way the display was calibrated, and I can turn this on and off by toggling display profiles that have no differences except that checkbox option for Native Gamma. The monitor doesn't display any different because I use the same value as Native Gamma, but I explicitly enter it in vs using the checkbox.

Try it and see. I have spent a lot of time trying to narrow the problem down, and for me (two Macs) it's a simple on-off switch for that solarized look.

sRGB is nice for printing to a service and to websites because it is used on the majority of commercial printers and on most Windows machines. But it has the smallest color gamut of the profiles. If you're printing locally, sRGB will actually limit the colors your printer might be able to reproduce.

Also, at a much subtler level, iPhoto's camera RGB does use a slightly higher saturation than other applications would. I think lowered gamma. Maybe this is to match the printing service filters? Or just to make photos look better?

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