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iBook G4 OpenFirmware trouble

I am having lots of USB trouble on my iBook. I cannot boot into a USB drive with any commands in OF. I have tried several bootable USB thumb drives with the same result. When I start up into OpenFirmware, the light on the thumb drive goes on (it always stays on when the laptop is powered on) and then goes off like it's not plugged in. I have made a backup of my HD onto an external HD with CarbonCopyCloner, and when I boot into OF, the HD will not spin up. When I plug it into another USB port, it turns on, but after about 7 secs, it crashes with the read/write head jumping to the side like when you force shut-down a computer. If I needed to restore my drive, would I have to have a Firewire to USB cable to boot the drive and clone it back onto the laptop?

iBook, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Dec 30, 2013 10:41 PM

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Jan 2, 2014 7:29 PM in response to jonasfromwa

Most times the USB thumb drive does not make a suitable boot volume for G4 Macintosh in OS X. If an OS X is installed or clones to a USB flash drive, the formatting has to be correct and sufficient free space must exist. Plus a few other rules that are widely published need be applied. With some drives, they need to be self-powered and not use a port on the subject computer; the power is not there all the time during the boot cycle, so the external drive using only port power may not be seen at all. This may vary, but especially when troubleshooting or booting from a system clone, etc.


•Mac startup from open firmware to OS X - search result link:

https://www.google.com/#q=Mac+startup+from+open+firmware+to+OS+X


In the later G5 iMac, there was a change in firmware to allow USB flash drives to be used as boot volumes. Some unix variants do OK from a flash usb drive, and the OS can be tweeked in Terminal. Then there are Developer pages...


There are advanced user databases at Apple Support involving the use of such behind-the-scenes technologies and developer discussions, perhaps you should register to use them? It does not cost.


There are times when it may be possible, but when they will work, they should not require you to run the computer in Open Firmware. And some of the steps with associated questions lend questions of purpose that also may breech the terms of use and other intellectual property rights when copies are made, etc.


So, that may be why some questions across the discussions threads could go unanswered. Some are due to lack of an appropriate reply, or unwillingness to commit to some kind of reply that may also be marginal. And as these machines, OS X versions & user base fades, fewer would be able to formulate a reasonable reply.


Hopefully you realize there were a few who did read the question.

Some may have not understood it as a day-to-day user inquiry,

and others probably did not want to research an answer online.


Sorry to have said nothing until now, & even now.

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

iBook G4 OpenFirmware trouble

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