Final Cut Pro X vs. iMovie

Howdy,

I have mountains of MiniDV cassettes from the first 12 years of my daughter's life that I finally want to begin to edit into watchable highlight videos. I used to do this (way back when) with earlier versions of iMovie, going all the way back to the earliest OS 9.x versions.

A few years ago I began to notice that Apple had done something to iMovie that improved responsiveness at the expense of output quality (aliasing artefacts, etc.)

I purchased Final Cut Express 4 and did a few projects with it but never managed to get very far with it; found the UI too complex to deal with.

I have downloaded the FCP X demo and looked at some online training videos and it seems easier to get a grip on the basics.

My main question: the main killer feature of iMovie for me is how it allows you to catalogue all your video clips in a manner similar to how Aperture or iPhoto let you catalogue your photos. I know that Final Cut Express 4 didn't really provide for any kind of cataloguing feature like this. What about FCP X? Before I invest lots of time and $300 in a new piece of software, I want to know that it'll do what I want. When she gets married and I want to assemble that embarrassing, lifetime highlight reel for the rehearsal dinner, am I going to be able to find the clips I want? 😉


Thanks!

MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2008), OS X Mavericks (10.9.1), 4 GB RAM

Posted on Dec 31, 2013 5:16 PM

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Jan 1, 2014 12:34 AM in response to rebbi

rebbi wrote:

… My main question: the main killer feature of iMovie for me is how it allows you to catalogue all your video clips in a manner similar to how Aperture or iPhoto let you catalogue your photos.… What about FCP X? …

Far better than iMovie (or iPhoto) 😉


FCPX offers basicly two groups of meta-data: technically ones (date, format, length) and manual ones (birthdays, school, vacations, family, …)


It then offers to use such tags for filtering - when you index your material carefully and clever, it is a snap to dig out all "singing+party+grandma" stuff.


plus, FCPX does create automatically such 'playlists/albums/groups/younameit'!


The latest version, FCPX10.1, has implemented a very smart way to handle 'tons' of raw files. The new Libraries support to keep material on some external mass-storage devices, and handle only the Project-data locally. With a smart hardware-structure, it is easy to keep track with back-up-strategies without shuffling terabytes every week.


The better you structure your needs to such a data-base, the better FCPX supports you. I can only recommend: before importing just a minute of material, grab a stencil+paper and imagine, what you like to do now or the near future. THEN import and instantly index your material = I never managed to do that 'later', later means never 😁


concerning color-correction: real 'grading' is an art you don't learn within half an hour, but getting rid of color-casts, aligning diff. clips, or just 'givin' it a punch' is drop-dead-easy. I'm a hobbyist either, never thought of using scopes and such - but after watching a few tutorials by Larry Jordan or rippletraining, it is really, really easy.-


best investment in soft-ware (yepp, I wasted my coins for FC/e4 too - …) ever.


biggest time-thief ever = I spend soooo much time with my hobby 😝

Jan 4, 2014 7:48 PM in response to rebbi

I am really, really enjoying the FCP X Trial! I'll pretty certainly be purchasing it at the end of the trial. I've successfully imported some clips from my MiniDV FireWire camera and so far FCP X is stable and responsive, even on my 2008 MBP with "only" 4 gigabytes of RAM and a Core 2 Duo CPU. Now I just have to wrap my brain around Projects, Events and Libraries...😁

Jan 4, 2014 9:11 PM in response to Alchroma

Alchroma,

I wish we had the same specs, but mine is early an early 2008 MBP (last model before they went to unibody) and it maxes out at 4 gigabytes of RAM, so I'm stuck. 😢 At least I have the fastest CPU they were offering at the time.

Since the newer MBP's (the Retina ones, anyway) have ditched firewire and all my video so far (12 years worth!!) is on a firewire MiniDV camera, I'm hanging on to this puppy until it falls apart. 😉

Jan 5, 2014 7:13 AM in response to Alchroma

Al,

I have the 15.4" early 2008 MPB.

Hardware overview says:


Model Name: MacBook Pro

Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1

Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo

Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz

Number of Processors: 1

Total Number of Cores: 2

L2 Cache: 6 MB

Memory: 4 GB

Bus Speed: 800 MHz

Boot ROM Version: MBP41.00C1.B03

SMC Version (system): 1.27f3

etc., etc....


Crucial.com says the computer only takes 4 gigs. Macsales (OWC) right here says:

  • 2GB (two 1GB SO-DIMMs) of PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 memory; two SO-DIMM slots support up to 4GB
  • 800MHz frontside bus


but then the link you provided says otherwise, hmmm....


Anyway, it's definitely worth it if it works as they say. I'm a little wary because I've had two unpleasant experiences with OWC in the past. I'll do a little more online research and report back. Thanks for the tip. I am definitely looking for ways to extend the life of this computer. I replaced the HD with a 500 gig unit a few years ago when Apple Care expired. And I've even toyed with putting in a SSD if I can find a big one at a good price.


Cheers!

Jan 6, 2014 1:35 AM in response to rebbi

rebbi wrote:

… Now I just have to wrap my brain around Projects, Events and Libraries...😁

That's simple, trust me!


It is only un-usual 'optional' for a Macuser; in the past, Windows had the paradigm of allowing 'anything', including the option to get lost. Mac was restricted, therefor convenient.


'Events' means: all stuff from a day of recording (yeah, you can add stuff from other days too - optional). e.g I record soccer-matches with up to 6 cams simultaneously - one match, 6 cams, one Event. Raw data. kept untouched, Never altered. Can be used in any project. Again and again.


'Projects' means: the movie itself. Done from Events. Clips from Events. Clips from one Event or many. Or photos. Or graphics. Music, animations, voice-recordings... Erasing a project = no effect on your raws. Erasing an event = all Projects kaputt.


'Library' means: the place where all is saved. Think of it as a hard-drive!! Yes, a harddrive can contain many Events and even more Projects. Therefor Libraries: think of it as a hard-drive per 'job' - here it gets really 'optional': What is a 'job' for you? For me, it is a season: each season is one Library - 2010/11, 2011/12, 2012/13 (yepp, soccer sasons are cross-years, so not usefull to use timestamps) . And I do a best-of Year In Review per season. That's in a job too. And special-cuts for the coaches. All in one Lib.


For others, a job is Event-driven: Every new-years-eve-party is a job; or, wedding-photographer: the Smiths, the Millers, the Jones (again: timestamp organization is here of no use)


Or, you're in animal documentary: one Lib for squirrels, one for cats, one for mammoths (???) -


A lib is just a collection of Raw&final movies, Events&Projects; there's always and at last ONE lib. Optional, you can have as many libs as you want or need. Like folders. But smarter = a Library collects automatically.


Event=media, Project=movie, Library=collection of all stuff. Or some stuff. 😁

Jan 6, 2014 8:40 AM in response to Karsten Schlüter

I was thinking about this last night when I couldn't fall asleep and I think I've finally defined it for my purposes:


For example:


Library = Trips To California (clips from multiple trips)

Event = Cousin's Bat Mitzvah

Project = "California 2013 Highlight Reel"


And then by assigning keywords after import, it seems plausible that I'll actually be able to meaningfully search media assets years from now. 🙂


I am beginning to love this software. 😁

Jan 6, 2014 9:00 AM in response to rebbi

rebbi wrote:


Alchroma,

I wish we had the same specs, but mine is early an early 2008 MBP (last model before they went to unibody) and it maxes out at 4 gigabytes of RAM, so I'm stuck. 😢 At least I have the fastest CPU they were offering at the time.

Since the newer MBP's (the Retina ones, anyway) have ditched firewire and all my video so far (12 years worth!!) is on a firewire MiniDV camera, I'm hanging on to this puppy until it falls apart. 😉


With a new mac and a $30 Thunderbolt-to-Firewire adapter, you can still use your mini DV and incredibly faster too (well, not to import the tapes, as that will still be real-time :-)).

Jan 6, 2014 3:44 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Luis,

With a new Mac and a $30 Thunderbolt-To- FireWire adapter I will have to put off servicing my car for several months. 😉


Also, I have several firewire 400 and 800 external drives, and I'm not convinced that trying to daisy-chain a DV camera off a FW drive connected to a thunderbolt-to-firewire cable when I have to ingest video to the hard drive is actually going to work. I remember from somewhere that Canon FW video cameras like mine are somewhat picky about needing to connect directly to a computer FW port and not a hub or daisychained hard disk. So I am going to max out the RAM to 6 gigabytes and maybe also stick a SSD drive in the computer and see if I can use my MBP until the keyboard falls off. 😁

Jan 6, 2014 4:47 PM in response to rebbi

rebbi wrote:



Also, I have several firewire 400 and 800 external drives, and I'm not convinced that trying to daisy-chain a DV camera off a FW drive connected to a thunderbolt-to-firewire cable when I have to ingest video to the hard drive is actually going to work.

It may work. It worked for me with Panasonic, JVC and Sony. But can't recall whether Canon did.


Russ

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