getting arabic to work on microsoft word

This is my first post, i've searched past threads but haven't really found what I am looking for.

I want to be able to read and type arabic on word. as of now, the arabic shows up at times [other times it's just boxes] but the letters are all disconnected. this occurs when opening an arabic text or when writing arabic text myself.

i made a special font collection in font book for all the arabic fonts available, and they seem to be installed. i am not sure how to proceed next. can anyone please help? it is frustrating me. i don't want to have to switch to the pc every time i want to read something in arabic.

thanks in advance.

powerbook g4, Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Jul 24, 2006 11:37 PM

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Jul 25, 2006 2:25 AM in response to arabeyya

Hi, arabeyya.

See Tom Gewecke's outstanding Web site "Unleash Your Multilingual Mac."

Depending on the version of Word you are using, this may be an issue with Unicode support or support for RTL (Right-to-Left) languages.

Mellel is probably the best word processing application with support for RTL languages, such as Arabic and Hebrew.

Good luck!

😉 Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X

Jul 26, 2006 11:20 PM in response to Tom Gewecke

مرحبا arabeyya,

Please read Tom's extremely helpful information referred to in his post; he is the expert on this topic.

I work in a bilingual office environment in the United Arab Emirates and have tried all the word-processing applications mentioned in Tom's note. I have settled on Nisus Writer Express. Although it is not a perfect solution, it is inexpensive, the interface and commands are not that different from what an MS Word user is used to, and Nisus works pretty well most of the time. Whether or not "most of the time" is good enough for you depends on your particular needs and especially the extent to which you need to collaborate with other (PC) users on your Arabic documents.

If you want to be able to read Arabic documents sent to you by others, or type documents for printing out as hard copies (or saving as PDFs) then Nisus or one of the other apps Tom mentions would probably be an excellent solution for you.

Unfortunately in my work I almost always need to send the Arabic document to a PC user in a format that allows for further editing (i.e., a "doc" file not a "PDF"). If you need to do this, then the only perfect solution for now is to boot up in Windows and run MS Word there. It saddens me to say that, because I have been a committed Mac user since 1984, when the Mac software called "Al Katib" was the best way to word-process in Arabic bar none. However, I have had enough experience to know that you will lose formatting going between the PC version of Word and the Mac version of any existing Mac software that supports Arabic.

The problem is that the Mac apps work well enough on their own, but it is difficult to get MS Word for Windows to "play nicely" with them and, unfortunately, this is something largely within Microsoft's control.

Tom probably understands the technical reasons for this, and I don't, but I think Word for Windows handles right-to-left script differently than the Mac apps do. For example, if I generate an Arabic document in Nisus (or in any of the other Mac apps for that matter) it may look nice on screen and print beautifully. But when a PC user opens it up, the paragraph alignment will be wrong (but not in a consistent or predictable way) and numbers will be reversed.

Similarly, when I receive a Word document written in Arabic and open it in Nisus, I normally have to do a "select-all" and change the text direction to "Right to Left" to get it to display properly.

The cross-platform difficulties are worse if you need to do bilingual documents especially half-page with Arabic on one column and English on the other.

That said, Nisus is a very good app (with the added benefit of being inexpensive) if you don't need to send editable documents to PC users (that is if you are able to send your Nisus documents via PDF).

I am really hoping that the next version of MS Office for Mac will support Arabic.

PowerBook G4 (1GB RAM); iMac Intel Core Duo (2GB RAM) Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Aug 16, 2006 8:46 AM in response to Tom Gewecke

Hey Tom, i'm not sure if you'd read this as it's kinda an old topic, but first thanks for your help in many topic regarding arabic, and fonts issues, it helps alot.

I'm an arab, but never needed to write much arabic on my mac for in textEditing stuff, my studies are all english.

but after reading all that issues, one of the rest "Pages" could take arabic text letters connected well, and everything is cool, but one thing is the courser "|" won't move back and forth between letters - while it actually does, but you see it not moving - not sure what can fix that, but probabily it could be fixed.

so simply, Pages writes arabic, but if you miswrite something or want to go back with the "|" to fix some letters, you'll face some hard times.

If you need any tests with arabic font, i'm pleased to help.

Thanks again!

Aug 16, 2006 9:21 AM in response to Brhoome

so simply, Pages writes arabic, but if you miswrite
something or want to go back with the "|" to fix some
letters, you'll face some hard times.


Yes, I think that is right. I usually tell people that pages may work ok with Arabic if you copy/paste from another app (so you've already done your editing), but has too many bugs for most people to use it with direct keyboard input and editing.

It is too bad that some recent Apple apps, like Pages, Keynote, and iWeb, have these cursor bugs which I think don't exist in TextEdit that much any more.

Thanks for the offer of testing. If sometime you have a chance, I would be interested in your view on how well the latest versions of AbiWord and NeoOffice/J can handle Arabic, both with Windows and Mac fonts.

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