i just recenlty got a sustain pedal for my axiom 49 and i hear it working fine on the piano i am playing, but i will record it and there is no sutain in the playback.... i have checked the boxes in the chase settings that need to be checked...Can someone qucikly tell me what setting im missing or forgetting about to allow sustain to work in recording and playback...
Logic Pro X, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)
CC 64 is the correct CC controller number sent by the sustain pedal that should be listed in the Event editor for each sustain pedal press...
Controller events[edit]
In MIDI, adjustable parameters for each of the 16 possible MIDI channels may be set with the Control Change message, which has a Control Number parameter and a Control Value parameter.
1 Modulation wheel
7 Volume
10 Pan
11 Expression
64 Sustain pedal
100 Registered Parameter Number LSB
101 Registered Parameter Number MSB
121 All controllers off
123 All notes off
For Sustain a value of 64 is sent plus a value indicating if the pedal is pressed or not.. (127 or 0 respectively)
In the screenshot below the red boxes show sustain on/pressed.. and the blue boxes show sustain off/released
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Note also the midi channel being the same midi channel as the notes.. in this case Midi Ch #1
Make sure yours shows up the same way in the event editor for the midi region you have recorded sustain in...
In the project settings/midi/chase... How is the chase stuff setup?
These are my settings...
If those settings dont work for you....
Try checking the Notes box and make sure sustain is on too just under that setting and test.....
I actually create sustain manully via the event editor or the new step editor.. but thats because I do more work in the step editor for Oech Mockups... such as articuloation changes via CCs so thats my prefered way of working... Your method of working is different to mine...
JayOwen17 wrote:
it says channel 2 for the sustain...how do i change that?
Change the midi channel setting on your Axion.... to ch 1
- Press the Glob Chan button. The LCD will show the channel on which the keyboard is currently transmitting.
- < Enter a channel between 1-16 on the numeric keypad. The LCD will update to display the new channel selected as
you enter the data.
- < You can also use the -/+ buttons to step through the channels.
The Glob Chan button is the third button from the right on the top row of the function buttons...
Under Settings/MIDI you don't have and of the Input Filters selected, do you?
Which Piano is it, one of Logic's
Barring any problems with setup try recording only a few sustain pedal push/releases, does a region appear, if not, then nothing is being recorded, if a region does appear open it with the list editor and post a screen shot of the results.
You should be seeing CC 64 with values of down-127, up-0.
On second thought it's most likely related to the Control Surfaces Settings.
You can try and edit the settings or nuke the preferences.
In this case it's sometimes better to get a fresh start.
Be sure and use the tilde ~ in the path.
Do this with Logic not running.
Delete the Logic 10 preferences file AND the shared control surfaces file.
In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder from the menu.
Type ~/Library/Preferences in the "Go to the folder" field.
Press the Go button.
Remove the com.apple.logic10.plist file from the Preferences folder. Note that if you have programmed any custom key commands, this will reset them to the defaults. You may wish to export your custom key command as a preset before performing this step. See the Logic Pro User Manual for details on how to do this.
If you are having trouble with a control surface in Logic Pro.
then delete the com.apple.logic.pro.cs file from the preferences folder.
input filters are "un-checked." it is logic's software instruments(piano, electric piano, etc...). the sustain pedal is read in the midi region represented by a vertical type bar line that is seen in midi region... works fine during recording, but fails to sustain notes in playback...chase settings sustained and notes boxes are checked... I have had this problem in the past and seemed to find a way to get it to work , but do not remember quite how...
sustain shows up in events list. Not sure what you are referring to with the CC(64) fully. When I press the sustain right before i am about to record though, it does not show up in the list only if i hit it again while recording...
ok. thanks. yes when i press the pedal inside the region i get a 64 and 127val and it will playback the sustain...but, it defeats the purpose if it is not able to receive the information leading up to the first note(which it does not playback)...
The sustain on event must occur before the first note is played in the region....and be a part of that region or the prior region... (if that is what you are talking about?)
Note: If this is the first region in your project, make sure your first region starts at bar 2 and not bar 1....Logic doesn't like notes or CCs used prior to the start of Bar 1.... so most of us always start the first region at bar 2 because of this quirk....
If the Axiom continues to send Sustain via Ch 2.... you may want to reset the Axion back to it's default settings..
It is possible to completely reset your keyboard at any time. To do this, turn the Axiom off and then press and hold down both of the -/+ buttons as you power up the keyboard.
ok. i am on channel 1 now... i recorded a part with cycle 4 bars starting at bar 2 but then if i want to copy and paste the region, the sustain will be cut from the part of the region because it comes in before the beginning of the bar... you know what I mean? For instance: I will hit "record" , then i put my foot on pedal and then when the first bar hits in the cycle I hit play the first note sustained and hold until the end...which sounds fine, but then it does not play the sustain in playback...Is it not capable of reading the sustain as it leads into the first note ? I know that i have been able to do this previosusly with some fix, but it was a months ago...
it works fine...it just is unfotunate that it cant be read preceding the bar recording...i would just prefer to be able to hold the pedal down before i am to hit the first note, which is what i have been able to do before...not sure what it could be...
Hey guys i just bought a new sustain pedal and am trying to record with sustain again. Still no playback of the sustain recorded... There has to be something that can be fixed to make this work.. I believe that i worked this out a while back but am not sure how that was done. Please help if anyone knows how to be able to hear the sustained notes played back in recording...I know it has to do with chase function enabling which is checked in the box, so i dont know what the deal is>???
anybody know the fix to this ? i checked the chase settings for sustaon and it still is not working properly... please let me know if there is a fix to this!!
just to step in here..
As Pancenter asked.. (To paraphrase) Do the sustain commands appear in the Event list using the correct CC (64) for them?
Sustain midi notes not being heard in playback
