BigFeynmanFan

Q: Why should anyone upgrade to Mavericks when 30% of the user feedback on the download site describes horrific results and rates Mavericks 1 out of 5???

I would really like to upgrade my MBP from 10.6 to Mavericks and was just about to download when I reveiwed the recent user feedback on the download site.

Mavericks was released on Oct 22 2013. I am wrting this on Jan 9 2014 and of the 735 reviews for the current version on the download site 219 or 30% describe horric results and rate this OS at 1 out of 5.

 

So I would like to hear from Apple - Why should anyone upgrade to Mavericks when there's a 30% chance of disaster !!!

 

I would have asked this question on the download site but users must first install before being allowed to post a review !!!

 

Have Apple provided any expalantion as to why so many users are having problems upgrading? or even provided a checklist of precautions to minimize the chance of such problems?

 

I am hoping this community can provide some useful information even if Apple is silent on this matter.

 

Optimistically,

 

BigFeynmanFan

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.1)

Posted on Jan 9, 2014 5:42 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 27, 2014 10:50 AM in response to guitar_trance
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    Apr 27, 2014 10:50 AM in response to guitar_trance

    guitar_trance wrote:

     

    "Believe as you wish

     

    Mavericks is the best OS X version since Snow Leopard, sorry you can't get yours to work for you. Maybe take it to a Pro?"

     

    I was a tech support person for over 5 years. I've encountered about every possible problem, both Mac OS and MS Windows, both Mac and "IBM compatible" hardware, and offered solutions to people for all of those years. I also own 7 PC's and 13 Macs (I collect Macs).  Don't think I need to take it to a Pro or waste my time on an Apple "Genius" at this point. On the other hand, uninstall Mavericks? Highly probable at this point.

    And yet you show a stunning lack of knowledge about Macs and the software and services they use.

     

    Good luck.

  • by Network 23,

    Network 23 Network 23 Apr 27, 2014 11:43 AM in response to guitar_trance
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    Apr 27, 2014 11:43 AM in response to guitar_trance

    guitar_trance wrote:

     

    I was a tech support person for over 5 years. I've encountered about every possible problem, both Mac OS and MS Windows, both Mac and "IBM compatible" hardware, and offered solutions to people for all of those years. I also own 7 PC's and 13 Macs (I collect Macs).  Don't think I need to take it to a Pro or waste my time on an Apple "Genius" at this point. On the other hand, uninstall Mavericks? Highly probable at this point.

    As a tech support person you should be extremely familiar with the concept that if there is a problem happening to you and not everyone, the problem is not with everyone... Mavericks is a great success with a very fast adoption rate. If Mavericks was as screwed up as you say, Apple would be having a Windows 8 moment (I constantly hear of people jumping over the fence to the Mac because they have had it with Windows 8).

     

    I won't deny some are having problems, but that happens with every release. I am sure if we rolled back to the Snow Leopard intro days there were probably lots of people absolutely incensed over the problems in the first few 10.6.x releases. But most Mac users and I are going to continue enjoying superior performance, battery life, and memory efficiency with Mavericks, the best OS X since Snow Leopard (and in my cases better).

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 27, 2014 11:48 AM in response to Network 23
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    Apr 27, 2014 11:48 AM in response to Network 23

    I keep a 2010 MBP test machine, it has 10.6, 10.8 and 10.9 on it

     

    Mavericks (10.9) is the fastest of the three (8GB Ram, 1tb SSHD)

  • by chilli_Trav,

    chilli_Trav chilli_Trav Apr 30, 2014 9:50 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 30, 2014 9:50 PM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

    guitar_trance wrote:

     

    Reading comprehension is a wonderfful thing, friend!

    You're very rude, and you're not my friend, buddy

    ...

     

    I'mNotYou'reBuddyGuy.jpg

     

     

     

    *Sorry, couldn't help it.

  • by rucana,

    rucana rucana May 12, 2014 8:16 PM in response to BigFeynmanFan
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    May 12, 2014 8:16 PM in response to BigFeynmanFan

    Hi guys! this is for everybody else and the author of this post. I'm new on this list and pretty "freshman" on mac. I wanted (and still want) to upgrade to Mavericks, but I got so scared on the reviews that I got frozen. I am assuming that the major problems have been caused because mac owners have installed non-Apple softwares and also problems to oftern used apps like Skype? Why there are people so happy with nothing happening but having new and better experiences and others are just having nightmares such as losing HD data (i have a WD with just about everything I have!) and huge problems also with native Apps? Thx! Cheers from Brazil

  • by MichelPM,

    MichelPM MichelPM May 12, 2014 10:23 PM in response to rucana
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    May 12, 2014 10:23 PM in response to rucana

    Every Mac can have third party software on it. Just because it isn't part of the Mac App Store doesn't mean that software outside of Apple"s garden is a problem.

    The findings we see that make Mavericks run poorly is users with Macs with not enough installed RAM, installing needless antivirus software/s, unnecessary and uneeded hard drive or memory "cleaning" apps that are just "garbageware" that is a way to scam newbie and novice users out of thier hard earned money for a garbage product that does more harm than good.

     

    Users who don't updated any of their installed software and have waaaay tooooo many applications launching at startup and running in the background for no good reason.

     

    Users who do not update their Internet web browser extensions and plugins.

     

    Users who have third party, non-Apple hardware peripherals that haven't had their drivers and/or affiliated software updated for Mavericks compatibility.

  • by malcolm135,

    malcolm135 malcolm135 May 16, 2014 5:59 AM in response to BigFeynmanFan
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    May 16, 2014 5:59 AM in response to BigFeynmanFan

    I have a MacBook Pro, with 4GB of Memory, 2.4GHz Intel Core, 15" screen. I have Snow Leopard (SL) 10.6.8 installed on it. It worked fine with my iPhone 3 (without all this puzzling icloud stuff on it !). But on my new iPhone 5, (that's plain old 5, not 5c or 5s !) I can't get the calendars to syncronize. Why not ? I think it may be linked to the fact that I am using SL ? Or I'm misusing the icloud stuff on the iPhone 5 ?

     

    I don't want to upgrade to Mavericks - too many different views on it & never like using the "latest". SL, my Macbook and my iPhone 5 are perfectly adequate for me, but I do want my calendars to sync on the iPhone 5 and the MacBook Pro.

     

    Solutions ? Thanks.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 16, 2014 5:56 AM in response to malcolm135
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    May 16, 2014 5:56 AM in response to malcolm135

    How are you syncing them (or were syncing them)

  • by malcolm135,

    malcolm135 malcolm135 May 16, 2014 6:05 AM in response to Csound1
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    May 16, 2014 6:05 AM in response to Csound1

    Using ITunes, by using a cable between the Mac and the iPhone 3 and now the iPhone 5. Thanks.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 16, 2014 6:08 AM in response to malcolm135
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    May 16, 2014 6:08 AM in response to malcolm135

    I saw your (now removed) post, can't help you.

  • by malcolm135,

    malcolm135 malcolm135 May 16, 2014 6:30 AM in response to Csound1
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    May 16, 2014 6:30 AM in response to Csound1

    Sorry about that ! I replaced to posting by a more polite one ! See above. But you still can't help me ? Is it because SL doesn't support iCloud ? I see Lion does. I wonder if you can still get Lion ?! I'll check. Thanks.

  • by MlchaelLAX,

    MlchaelLAX MlchaelLAX May 16, 2014 6:47 AM in response to malcolm135
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    May 16, 2014 6:47 AM in response to malcolm135

    Backup or clone your existing Mac.

     

    Partition your hard drive or add an external drive and install Mavericks into it. DO NOT install Mavericks over Snow Leopard, as that will destroy your Snow Leopard environment.

     

    Use dual-booting (System Preferences:Startup Disk) to determine when you boot into Snow Leopard or Mavericks.

     

    Set up iCloud in Mavericks and sync with your iPhone 5.  Use Snow Leopard for everything else.

  • by OzziesMAC,

    OzziesMAC OzziesMAC May 16, 2014 6:54 AM in response to MlchaelLAX
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    May 16, 2014 6:54 AM in response to MlchaelLAX

    Mavericks will make you MAC slower and introduce several bugs that may or may not directly impact you depending on how you use your MAC.  External drives that use FW800 and Thunderbolt will not go to sleep, also some audio playback issues on Haswell Macs and if you use a second display you may also have issues their, then there is the dreaded error - 50 when doing some file transfers on your home netowrk, OH yeah you might see that spinning Beach Ball more often when using finder.

     

    Other than that Mavericks is just fine.

  • by tbirdvet,

    tbirdvet tbirdvet May 16, 2014 7:02 AM in response to OzziesMAC
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    May 16, 2014 7:02 AM in response to OzziesMAC

    With 10.9.3 my FW800 drive now sleeps(2.5 min delay).  Still not sure non scrolling in mail is resolved yet.

  • by malcolm135,

    malcolm135 malcolm135 May 16, 2014 7:04 AM in response to MlchaelLAX
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    May 16, 2014 7:04 AM in response to MlchaelLAX

    Hmm ! Partioning ! Never done that on a Mac before. Did it on a Windows PC. Need to know sizes, types, etc. etc. - where do I get all that info from ? For example how much space for SL and my current data ? How much for Mavericks and calendar ? Types ?

     

    So if I'm in SL and my wife wants a quick response as to whether I'm available to go to a concert on a certain date. So I need to check my calendar, I'd have to move over to the other partition running Maverick ? What steps would be involved in doing that ? e.g. power off the Mac, start it up in the other ? It appears "yes" from the below article I've just found:

     

    "NOTE: While dual-boot systems allow you to choose which operating system you will run, you can’t switch between operating systems without restarting your computer."

     

    Sorry, but I wouldn't find this practicle ! (Nor would my wife !!!!!!!)

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