Currently Being ModeratedJan 10, 2014 4:11 AM (in response to Adam Woodhams)
Yes the behaviour is really frustrating and BAD Buissines !
- You'll miss Chapters
- and Share to MediaBrowser ---> iDVD
and more and more ( I've understood by reading - No hands on exp. )
But If I read right - the old iMovie'11 (v.9) will still be left intact - Hopefully this is true.
Yours (took the step to FinalCut Pro (v.6) and love it) - Bengt W
Currently Being ModeratedJan 10, 2014 4:32 AM (in response to Bengt Wärleby)
Yes, I'm wondering if I should make the move to FCP but I played around with it & there seemed to be elements of it that were difficult for no real reason.
For example in iMovie '11 if you want to add the audio only from a piece of video you just drop the video in & select audio only.
When I looked at how to do that in FCP it was a multi-step process that struck me as awkward & time consuming for no good reason (when I knew how simple it was in iMovie)
Currently Being ModeratedJan 10, 2014 4:36 AM (in response to Adam Woodhams)
OK - so I refere to - FinalCut Pro (v.6)
reg. FinalCut Pro-X - I have no clue - I love my old tool as it returns what I want and I can use it as I learned it to work.
I rather stick to a working solution than looking for fancy news.
Yours (stubborn minded ) - Bengt W
Currently Being ModeratedJan 10, 2014 10:41 AM (in response to Adam Woodhams)
Hello Adam and Bengt.
I tend to (mostly) totally disagree with your comments Bengt.
I have been working now with iMovie 10 for the last 8 weeks, and to be honest, despite some missing features and the fact that I needed to adapt my workflow, I don't like to go back to iMovie 09.
Most of the comments you reed on this forum have tot do with the fact that (like the days we went from iMovie 06 to 08) things are organized different, but they are still here, and as I experienced, in a much more logical way.
At the same time Apple kind of left (already a couple of years !! kind of "announced") some legacy features like being able to produce DvD's with chapters. ( did not produce a DvD anymore for the last 18 months. (I distribute via Vimeo and my own web-site, USB sticks or ATV3)
I am saying this despite the fact that iMovie in my native language (being Dutch) even has more bugs in it then the English versions.
What I like so far:
1. a much more advanced library management (once you get the grips of it). It really is a blessing to be able to create easily multiple libraries that you can open and close (which leads to much lesser start-up times if you only open up the library you will be working on.
2. to have all your materials used in one event once you create a project. You never have to think where your materials are.
3. The editing tools have much improved. Today it is, at least to me, much easier to understand the clip-trimming and precision editor as it did before. So easy to expand your audio to another (still) clip
4. All so called "advanced tools" now just show up when you need them. No hassle by turning them on in the preferences. (but you need to discover where they are).
5. Native import of mp4 and AVCHD2 files
6. Handling of 50 or 60p
7. Different but much more powerful colormanagement (though I miss one function). What about being able to tune color and with balance between different clips to get the same "tone"
8. In general the adjustments possibilities are the same of are improved.
9. I could go on for a while.....
Is everything fine ?
1. I don't like the conversion from my previous library to the new iMovie. It creates problems and confusion. So my solution was and advice would be: When the new iMovie asks to update your previous library: don't.
I started that way and got quite confused. After starting up with a new library and adding new clips and projects, it became much easier to understand how things worked, leading to my enthusiasm today.
2. I am definitely missing the equalizer function of the former iMovie, though I can still adjust the audio with presets.
3. I don't (didn't) like not being able to use Quicktime export to tune my export settings. (Found that most times I don't need them with the new presets or discoverd a workaround using Automator, which made things more efficient anyway)
4. There are less possibilities to adjust some titles in terms of fonts, size and color. (On the other hand I succeeded to ad (to some extend) Motion 5 titles to iMovie10, in a way that you can adjust the text; but this is a "hack"). So I think this "problem" will be solved.
5. I miss the possibility to create "beatmarkers" Though the finetune possiblities are easier.
6. iMovie 10 doesn't work togehter with iMovie from IOS7. (yet ?)
7. I miss my keyword functionallity
So yes there are pro's and con's; lots of them have to do with a different workflow. some are bugs, some have great potential.
I think the potential and present possibilities are much bigger than the impression you would get from all the comments. I even started my own video-tutorial site to elaborate and clarify. Unfortunate for you might be that my tutorials are in Dutch. However I found great tutorials on youtube and Macworld.
It seemes that iMovie 10 is a kind of (trimmed down) FCXP10. In stead opf a different "beast".
Adam I would advice: just start, but from scratch with new material. I would'nt be surprised if you would discover (as I did) that you don't need FCPX yet. Your old iMovie will stay in place and you will be able to use your old events and projects. Simply don't update your library until you are ready for it.
I myself won't do that at all. I finalized my projects with iMovie 09 and made a back-up. My "happy" future lies with iMovie10.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 10, 2014 1:43 PM (in response to Ben Bloks)
Ben, thank you, an excellent summation of the situation
What i may do is try it on one of my machines rather than my main editing machine just to avoid any possible issues just to get a feel for it.
Part of what I'm reading from other users and yourself is that so much stuff seems to be 'hidden' and there is a lot of frustration from this. I know what that's like especially as Apple's in-built Help is very often less than intuitive or helpful.
Are you tutorials video-based Ben? If so I may well be able to get the gist of them anyway.
Thanks again for your excellent comments.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 10, 2014 2:00 PM (in response to Adam Woodhams)
The "hiden functions" are not that hidden once you know how the concept works. From there on it's quite straight forward.
My tutorialss are indeed video based in mp4 format ( meaning you cannot view them in Firefox). When you go to my site click in the left column on iMovie and 4 tutorials will show up. I am just starting up the site so it will grow in near future. First episode will explain the new UI.
I expect to add some more in the coming week for the more "Advanced" editing functions, like clip trimming and precision edting.
Kind of curious if they will be of any help to you.
Currently Being ModeratedJan 10, 2014 3:09 PM (in response to Ben Bloks)
I agree completely with Ben. I think its a shame that Apple didn't make it clearer that the user interface has been so radically changed. The frustration caused by this is compounded by the fact that help, when accessed form iMovie 10, although comprehensive, has a very poor keyword/phrase search capability making it difficult to find specific topics without having to go through the whole document each time. In this respect it is much easier to find topics using the web help at http://help.apple.com/imovie/mac/10.0/#
It is also a pity that Apple didn't warn about the things it has dropped support for in iMovie 10 - lots of people have upgraded only to find out the hard way, resulting in a lot of bad feelings.
All the same very big improvements have been made - I upgraded about 30 short video projects to iMovie 10 without any major problems, and have now upgraded about 6 of them to FCP 10.1 (as an excercise to become familiar with it) which is very easy to do from iMovie 10.