gloede99

Q: iPad2 not connecting to 2.4Ghz Wireless Networks

My issue is that without any updates from Apple, my iPad2 stopped connecting to my home wireless.  I have a MediaLink 2.4 Ghz Wireless N router.  I have done everything from "Forget this Network" to Rest Network Settings" to wipe the whole iPad and nothing has resoved the situation.  I am running IOS 7.0.4 (the latest).  I have even called MediaLink and they had me try a few things, but still nothing works.  The iPad will connect to SSID's that run on the 5Ghz frequency or any dual band wireless routers (ie those that broadcast SSID's at the 2.4 and 5 Ghz frequencies).  I have an open ticket with Apple and now dealing with the product engineers for about 3 weeks.  They have finally recognized this as a code issue with 7.0.4 IOS.  I am awaiting a fix.  Apple also acknowledged that this is a software problem and that mulitiple people are affected.  Stay tuned for an update to IOS for the fix......

iPad 2, iOS 7.0.4

Posted on Jan 14, 2014 6:45 AM

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  • by isaactbell,

    isaactbell isaactbell Jul 31, 2014 9:09 AM in response to gloede99
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    Jul 31, 2014 9:09 AM in response to gloede99

    I tried a bunch of fixes, but your steps 3 and 4 above (Changed to WPA with AES & switched my router from Channel 11 to Autoselect) followed by forgetting the network and then basically selected my WiFi network again and retyping the password fixed it.  HUGE pain in the butt (thanks Apple) but it was a relatively painless fix using your instructions.  Thank you for your post!!

  • by frigate-dev,

    frigate-dev frigate-dev Sep 10, 2014 12:10 AM in response to gloede99
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    Sep 10, 2014 12:10 AM in response to gloede99

    Hi,

     

    I'm just adding another one to this pile. Just happened a few days ago. After investigation, can only connect to 2.4GHz if ipad sitting on top of router. No issue connecting to 5GHz. I end up relegating the device permanently to my AV room which fortunately have a 5GHz signal.

     

    Device - iPad mini 16G WiFi bought June 2013

    Router - Asus RT-N56U dual band

     

    Product is 3 months out of warranty.

     

    Regards.

  • by Edward Van Rijn,

    Edward Van Rijn Edward Van Rijn Sep 11, 2014 1:45 PM in response to frigate-dev
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    Sep 11, 2014 1:45 PM in response to frigate-dev

    Hi all,

     

    Just to warn you. I just updated the iPad mini to the iOS8 GM as I was hoping it would possibly fix the connection issue.

     

    On iOS8 the iPad mini's WiFi does not work at all anymore! I can still connect to 5GHz WiFi but it won't load ANY data and it disconnects all the time only to hopelessly try to reconnect.

     

    I will try another restore, settings reset, etc. But at this moment the mini is no more

     

    If it persists I will take it to Apple again and hopefully get better support this time despite being out of warranty. That only 5GHz worked was acceptable, but without any WiFi the mini becomes pretty much useless.

     

    So beware, it may be unrelated to this issue and be another issue altogether, but know that it can happen..! Any others that have tried iOS8 betas or the GM and have seen different results?

  • by Edward Van Rijn,

    Edward Van Rijn Edward Van Rijn Sep 11, 2014 2:11 PM in response to Edward Van Rijn
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    Sep 11, 2014 2:11 PM in response to Edward Van Rijn

    Sorry for the 'false' alarm: after resetting the network settings after the sync completed it is working again. Well, only 5GHz is working, 2.4GHz still isn't... So much for hoping they fixed it.

  • by tommyb65,

    tommyb65 tommyb65 Sep 26, 2014 4:53 AM in response to mcfly8000
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    Sep 26, 2014 4:53 AM in response to mcfly8000

    I have just come across this problem (I think) with my daughter's IPAD2. The only difference is that it seems to work OK when within 3-4 feet of the router (not right on top of it as stated earlier).

     

    The IPAD is well out of warranty, and as I live in the West of Ireland a visit to the Genius Bar isn't really an option either. I have scanned this thread and think I am right in concluding there is no known fix - I did try the IOS8 upgrade, and that hasn't fixed it (or made it worse )

     

    So maybe my only option is to get a 5GHz router in the house (I currently have two wireless routers, but both at 2.4GHz). Is there a WiFi extender maybe that can be configured to receive at 2.4GHz and transmit at 5Gz?

     

    Any suggestions welcome

  • by mblanquet,

    mblanquet mblanquet Oct 1, 2014 3:27 PM in response to tommyb65
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    Oct 1, 2014 3:27 PM in response to tommyb65

    Hi all,

     

    I found a solution to my problem but let me first explain what my problem was.

     

    I have an iPad 2 and never had a problem before but after upgrade to iOS 8.0 I started to experience slowdowns and decided to downgrade to 7.1.2 using iTunes. Since then I cannot connect to my 2.4 GHz router if I'm not in the same room.

     

    I tried everything I found on internet but no success until I performed the following steps:

     

    - Upgraded to iOS 8.0.2

    - Turned off iPad's wifi

    - Changed iPad's name

    - Switched the router to WPA2 with AES

    - Switched the router to channel 6

    - Switched the router to 20 MHz

    - Set the router's wifi access control to allow only the MACs I added (and I added my iPad's MAC)

    - Set the router's DHCP server so my iPad gets a fixed ip address

    - Restored iPad's network settings to default

    - Restarted my router

    - Reconnected my iPad to my home network

     

    I wish this can help someone else.

     

    Rergards

  • by gloede99,

    gloede99 gloede99 Oct 13, 2014 11:13 AM in response to tommyb65
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    Oct 13, 2014 11:13 AM in response to tommyb65

    Why go through that...just replace your router with a $50 - $80 dual band router.

  • by gloede99,

    gloede99 gloede99 Oct 13, 2014 12:03 PM in response to mcfly8000
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    Oct 13, 2014 12:03 PM in response to mcfly8000

    mcfly8000,

         After a lot of pressure and 3 months of pestering, they finally realized that it was not me.  Being a network and IT professional I presented the facts and they finally listened.  Since this is very tricky with Apple, I suggest that you bring in your wireless router in to an Apple store...show them that it connect at 2.4 ghz on their wireless but not yours.  I have heard that worked with one person.

  • by Lasse_Moell,

    Lasse_Moell Lasse_Moell Jan 20, 2015 8:00 AM in response to gloede99
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    Jan 20, 2015 8:00 AM in response to gloede99

    It's never to late to give up

     

    So I decided to let this issue RIP! We had the Ipad2 brought to the store where it was bought, and they said they would send it to Apple.... not sure what happend after this, but fast forward 4-6 moths and the IPad was returned, without any further comment, still just as wonky as before! Not sure it it ever left the store or not. Never mind... I find the way Apple handles this issue somewhat strange, offering a refurbished IPad for almost the same as a brand new unit on sale... this for an item that only slipped out of the 12 months warranty by a few months and still with-in the 24-months "grace" period.

     

    Still beeing an engineer myself, I really would love to know the root cause, as I am curious. I'll try to remember to check the net and see if there is any new information popping up, but the faith in Apple products are, well not just there!  The way that noone here in Sweden seems to have the knowledge or the possiblity to get it, regarding this issue is stunning. I honestly beleive that those I have spoken to do not know a squat, and are kept out of the loop.

     

    So good luck to you all, and I sincerely hope we will see a happy ending for those who keep on pushing, trying to get this issue resolved.

    I simply roll over and give up.... Sigh

  • by igl85,

    igl85 igl85 Feb 11, 2015 11:17 AM in response to Lasse_Moell
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    Feb 11, 2015 11:17 AM in response to Lasse_Moell

    I am having the same problem. I have the iPad 3. Two days ago I took it to the official Apple reseller and they offered a new iPad 3 for 406 eurov (mine is already out of warranty). I just laughed, but they were nice and gave me an address for an unofficial service. So I went there today and the guy was trying to connect to different routers. All of a sudden it connected and he said that that was his 5 Ghz router and that something is probably wrong with the chip but he cant replace that.

     

    I dont have a 5 Ghz router at home, so I have pretty big coster lying on the table. I tried everything, from resets (of everything) to reboots, changing channels, passwords, security type.

     

    The problem is, I still don't know for sure if this is a hardware malfunction or really just an annoying software bug. Is it possible to check somehow for sure?

  • by Lasse_Moell,

    Lasse_Moell Lasse_Moell Feb 12, 2015 12:12 AM in response to igl85
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    Feb 12, 2015 12:12 AM in response to igl85

    @igl85, sorry to hear about your trouble... It seems noone outside Apple do know for sure what is going on, if it is hardware or software malfunction.

     

    Given all the facts collected in this thread, it looks as if it is software related, but it could also be a faulty wi-fi chip, but if I had to bet money on the issue, I'd go for s/w or rather firmware related.

     

    It seems a normal factory reset will not cure, it needs to go way deeper. The problem is that the 2.4 GHz transmitter part has lost most of it's power and we do not know why. Part of the chip do work, you still can connect to a 2.4 GHz network but only in extreme proximity of a router. 5 GHz seems unaffected. Now, the chip could have its internal registry wrongly programmed and thus have the power shut down/reduced OR it could be a hardware problem.

     

    After going over the information I have collected, and beeing an engineer myself, everything points towards the wi-fi chip or something closly related. And without any assistance from Apple it seems impossible to solve. The iPad is really not intended for repair, beeing glued but it would be interesting to hear if someone managed to swap out the chip/wi-fi ciruits.

     

    Getting a dual band router for home is a lot cheaper than a new iPad... but then you still have problems when away from home.

  • by spachner,

    spachner spachner Apr 7, 2015 2:36 PM in response to Lasse_Moell
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    Apr 7, 2015 2:36 PM in response to Lasse_Moell

    Hi,

     

    I have the same issue with my iPad mini running latest iOS 8.2. My model is more than two years old and worked flawlessly. Two days ago the issue started that the iPad was not able to connect to well known wifi access point.

     

    I am glad to find this thread. Now I am sure that the described problem here is also mine. 5GHz is OK and 2.4GHz only works in close distance to the access point.

     

    I live in Germany and will show up tomorrow at an Apple shop to see what they say.

     

    regards

     

    spachner

  • by gloede99,

    gloede99 gloede99 Apr 7, 2015 6:57 PM in response to spachner
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    Apr 7, 2015 6:57 PM in response to spachner

    Spachner,

         I'm the original person that started this thread and Lasse_Moell actually discovered the root source of the problem. My story was a very long one but to sum it up, I basically upset Apple enough that they started deleting my post because I was violating the terms of this forum. What I posted were things like case numbers which not only helps them cause the two original cases opened inthe US and Europe have lots of technical details, but also helps those customers that are less technically than myself or Lasse. Other things that were deleted were links to pages that Apple has known about this issue for A LONG time ( search for this subject on web sites that have the number 9 and the number 5 in the URL ). Sorry I can't tell you the site or numbers cause for sure they will delete them. Also mysteriously I stopped receiving notifications from this web site when this thread gets updated. Why....who knows?  Anyway my story ended well, but by far it is not the most common.......Apple did replace my out of warentee iPad 2 but it was a 3 month battle, calls to HQ's, and very technical debugging where there was no technical response to our findings. Unfortunately the cheapest and less trouble "fix" the consumer holds the answer....buy a dual band router and replace your working one you have. My only other suggestion is Lasse told me in Europe you have some sort of consumer protection for electronics ...   kind of and extended warentee from the European Union..... Hopefully I am explaining it so you understand. Good luck.

  • by spachner,

    spachner spachner Apr 8, 2015 9:15 AM in response to gloede99
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    Apr 8, 2015 9:15 AM in response to gloede99

    Hi gloede99,

     

    thanks for your post. This morning I went to an Apple store in Munich and explained the Genius my problem in very technical way to convince them that there is nothing else to do than replacing my iPad mini. Surprisingly he believed my elaborations and showed really understanding. Not surprisingly he was not allowed to follow my with and simply replace my 2 years 5 month old iPad without consulting the local store manager. This guy however was really rough talking, unsympathetic and arrogant and simply explained that Apple's law is never to replace such an old device independently of the failure. The only he offered was a replacement with the very same (old) model they still have on sock for such kind of problems, but I need to pay about €140,- ! No wonder that I declined.

     

    Now I am sure about what I often read in blogs that Apple do not care about their customers. I will not go further on this issue since I own a 5GHz Wifi access point I can still use the iPad at home. I am not sure whether I will by another Apple product in future...

     

    regards

     

    spachner

  • by spachner,

    spachner spachner Apr 14, 2015 1:35 PM in response to spachner
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    Apr 14, 2015 1:35 PM in response to spachner

    Hi all,

     

    today a bought a dual band Wifi range extender (WN3500RP, from Netgear, http://www.amazon.de/Netgear-WN3500RP-100PES-Wall-Plug-Edition-Universal/dp/B00A N50BSS) which is (so far I know) the only device which allows to repeat 2.4GHz input data at the 5GHz band. This allows me to connect my half broken iPad to the 5GHz band while the data is repeated to a legacy 2.4GHz Wifi access points. This mode is called "Fast Lane" by Netgear. Works great.

     

    Costs about €70 and is better than purchasing a new iPad.

     

    regards

     

    spachner

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