Non-retina Hi-Res (1680x1050) MBP 15" vs. Retina MBP 15"

Hi, I have this question as an additional question within my other topic, but then decided to start a separate discussion (for clarity).


Which one would be suggested for Non-Photo/Movie Editor, but rather for an average user:


Option #1: Non-Retina MBP 15" (mid-2012), Hi-Res (1680x1050) anti-glare, i7-2.7Ghz, RAM=8GB, HDD=1TB, Video=1GB (RAM, HDD and battery can be upgraded/replaced easily, has Optical Drive)

Option #2: Retina MBP 15" (early-2013), i7-2.7Ghz, RAM=16GB, SSD=500GB, Video=1GB (nothing can be changed/upgraded, No Optical Drive).

Both of them are Refurbished. The price-wise - those seems to be the same (although #1 seems to be slighly more expencive than #2 :S)).


Sounds like #1 give you good enough resolution, and option to upgrade to SSD (once it goes down in price in 1-2 years), while in the mean time gives a lot of storage. Should not have issue with most Apps still do not support Retina. But would be 0.5 kg heavier.

MacBook Pro

Posted on Jan 14, 2014 11:58 AM

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Jan 14, 2014 10:20 PM in response to Melophage

Thanks Melophage.


There just one more option has shown up 🙂


I just found one Used Retina MBP 15" (from a Private Sell) Mid-2012 with the Highest Specs: RAM=16GB, SSD=750GB; And AppleCare till Sep 2016. The seller wants $2250 for it.


Now what would be your suggestion - go with this Private sale (for $2250) OR with Refirbished of the AppleStore for (with tax $2450-$2675 for 500GB-750GB respectivelly)?

Jan 14, 2014 11:17 PM in response to kvnMac

kvnMac,


The retina Mac is, without a doubt, a much finer machine. Once you use it for a couple of weeks you won't be able to return to a regular Mac, whether you're using iPhoto or Word -- everything looks divine. The fact that you cannot upgrade is the way these things go. It's the way Apple is going in order to close the upgrade gap on their machines. Regardless, I'd go for the highest spec used machine (over the refurb from Apple that makes you purchase your own Applecare) if they can show you the Applecare registration. It's a monster and you will be very pleased with it for a long time.


Good luck!

Jan 15, 2014 9:19 AM in response to MacJojo

Thanks folks!!


Seller mentioned that it was bought last year before June 2013 and the AppleCare was purchased in Sep 2013.

I did mentioned that it's kind of weird that his AC will expire in Sep 2016 (as from my understanding - AC just extend initial warranty by 2 more years and not by 3 more years).

He said that he is puzzled too and he sent me the screenshot of the window where it has MBP Serial Number and following

“Repairs and Service Coverage: Active

Your product is covered for eligible hardware repairs and service under the AppleCare Protection Plan

Estimated Expiration Date: 13 September 2016”


This would be my first MacBook (and first time I would be dealing with AppleCare).


Does AppleCare usually assigned to a User or the Machine itsled (meaning I do not need to Re-register AC under my name)?


Also Seller has neither Box nor receipt. Is there a way I can verify it's not stolen and officially move ownership under my name?

Jan 15, 2014 7:35 PM in response to kvnMac

kvnMac,


see this site (pick your region there) for the requirements of transferring an AppleCare agreement to a Mac’s new owner. I’ve copied the relevant requirements for the US below:


10. Transfer of Plan

(i) With Transfer of Covered Equipment to New Owner. Subject to the restrictions set forth below, you may make a one-time permanent transfer of all of your rights under the Plan to another party, provided that: (a) the transfer includes the original Proof of Purchase, the Plan's Confirmation and all of the Plan's packaging material, including printed materials and these Terms and Conditions; (b) you notify Apple of the transfer by sending, faxing or e-mailing notice of transfer to Apple Inc., ATTN: Agreement Administration, MS: 217AC, 2511 Laguna Blvd, Elk Grove, CA 95758, U.S., fax number 916-405-3655 or agmts_transfer@apple.com, respectively; and (c) the party receiving the Plan accepts the Terms and Conditions of the Plan. When notifying Apple of the transfer of the Plan, you must provide the Plan Agreement Number, the serial number of the Covered Equipment being transferred and the name, address, telephone number and email address of the new owner.


Note especially that if all of these requirements are not met, the AppleCare cannot be transferred to you, and would thus be valueless to you.

Jan 16, 2014 11:22 AM in response to kvnMac

Here is what we have for my region:

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10. Transfer of Plan


With Transfer of Covered Equipment to New Owner. Subject to the restrictions set forth below, you may make a one-time permanent transfer of all of your rights under the Plan to another party, provided that: (a) the transfer includes the original Proof of Purchase, the Plan's Confirmation and all of the Plan's packaging material, including printed materials and these Terms and Conditions; (b) you notify Apple of the transfer by sending, faxing or e-mailing notice of transfer to Apple Inc., ATTN: Agreement Administration, MS: 217AC, 2511 Laguna Blvd, Elk Grove, CA 95758, U.S., fax number 916-405-3655 or agmts_transfer@apple.com, respectively; and (c) the party receiving the Plan accepts the Terms and Conditions of the Plan. When notifying Apple of the transfer of the Plan, you must provide the Plan Agreement Number, the serial number of the Covered Equipment being transferred and the name, address, telephone number and email address of the new owner.


(ii) With Transfer From Original Covered Equipment to New Covered Equipment. You may make a one time, permanent transfer of the coverage under the Plan to a new Apple product that is owned and purchased by you within thirty (30) days of the Covered Equipment purchase. The new product must be eligible for coverage under the Plan and at the time of transfer both products must be covered under the manufacturer’s one (1) year limited warranty. Apple will issue a Plan Confirmation for the new product, which will then become the Covered Equipment. When notifying Apple of the transfer, you must provide the Plan Agreement Number, the serial numbers and Proof of Purchase of the products being transferred by sending or faxing, where available, notice of transfer to Apple as set forth in the section immediately above.

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Jan 16, 2014 11:28 AM in response to kvnMac

Sorry folks, just one more question on the Hi-Res Non-Retina (antiglare) vs. Retina.


Does anyone have experience with both of them to compare:

- glossy problem with inside or outside light?

- does 1680x1050 resolution is very good for most cases (i.e. non-Photo/Movie editing) and there is no need to go with Retina 2880x1800 ? Or latest (say early 2013) Retina will still "kill" any Hi-Res displays even for normal use?


There is no MBP Non-Retina 15" in stores anymore (leave alone Hi-Res) - thus can not compare it myself 😟

Jan 16, 2014 5:22 PM in response to kvnMac

kvnMac,


people’s preferences vary on these questions. Some people prefer matte to glossy, some prefer glossy to matte, and some are equally content with either. Those of us with non-Retina 13-inch screens manage to get by with a 1280×800 resolution. Perhaps there’s a used computer shop in your area that might have non-Retina 15-inch displays that you could look at?

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