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Jan 19, 2014 7:40 PM in response to In-Correctby K Shaffer,if you have an OS X Mac to
see this: get http://mactracker.ca
Identify by serial number:
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/identify-mac-serial.php
Have fun.
Good luck & happy computing!
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Jan 20, 2014 2:45 AM in response to In-Correctby bund,In my experience, nearly all new 512MB SODIMM (sometimes named SDRAM) 144PIN 133MHZ (the are backward compatible to 100 MHZ) Modules will do the job, even if you buy them on Ebay from China for 12$
In the first years after the iBook was released, there were compatibility issues with several modules.
If you want to be 100% sure you can by a module from a shop who sells Apple products which garanties the compatibility with your iBook, and pay a few dollars more.
1. Be sure that you have the latest Firmware installed
2. Follow the instructions for memory installation
For "everything else" about your iBook, visit www.iBook-Clamshell.com
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Jan 21, 2014 6:30 PM in response to bundby In-Correct,The chip I have, which I bought new, ... on ebay listing that said it is compatible from a seller that assured it would function.
However PC133 will not work at all. This is the very first attempt of upgrading the ram in a laptop EVER. Are the chips supposed to be that difficult to install? or perhaps it is the wrong brand?
I have done various PRAM resetting and taking the module out and putting it back in.
I also have Mac OS 9.2.2. The RAM is ignored completely with Virtual Memory turned on. When I turn Virtual Memory off and restart, Menu Bar is much more responsive. However, the About This Computer and Apple System Profile continue to not see the ram and I get "There is not enough memory." error messages.
Let my experience help other people in future. Because most of those RAM spec websites are WRONG.
(Also I am not sure why but the font text in my first sentence appears to be larger when I typed this.)
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Jan 21, 2014 10:30 PM in response to In-Correctby K Shaffer,The RAM specs for the iBook 366MHz FW
Built-in Memory 64 MB Maximum Memory 576 MB Memory Slots 1 - PC66 3.3V 144-pin SO-DIMM Minimum Speed 10 ns Interleaving Support No System specs
Processor PowerPC 750cxe v2.4 (G3) Processor Speed 366 or 466 MHz Number of Cores 1 Cache 64 KB L1, 256 k on-chip (1:1) L2 System Bus 66 MHz Software
Original OS Mac OS 9.0.4 Maximum OS Mac OS X 10.4.11 Hardware Test AHT (iBook) 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1, 1.2.2, 1.2.3, 1.2.4 Bundled Software Mac OS 9, QuickTime, AppleWorks, iMovie 2, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Outlook Express, Netscape Communicator, Palm Desktop, FAXstf, Bugdom, Nanosaur, and Acrobat Reader software. Firmware (lists a harder to get update to run OS X)
Firmware Open Firmware Firmware Update iBook Firmware Update 4.1.7 Maybe this will help...
Good luck & happy computing!
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Jan 21, 2014 10:54 PM in response to K Shafferby K Shaffer,{a PS to the above; because it timed out}
re: ibook firmware update 4.1.7...
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1284
even if you didn't need it
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Jan 22, 2014 4:33 AM in response to K Shafferby In-Correct,Thanks for the information.
I have spent hours and hours researching and somebody on another website said that it is possible that it is not in far enough. I thought about it and
I knew the gold pins could not be visible for it to be able to function, but I hesitated because I thought using too much force would cause damage. :rolleyes: But this time I took the risk. It slid in. It did not break. It now works MUCH faster!
Unfortunately the faster menu bar responsiveness went away. Perhaps If I tried to turn off Virtual Memory again? But at least I can browse the Internet on it now! As far as I am concerned, it is impossible to browse Classilla with 64MB. But now there is 576 MB. + 990 MB Virtual Memory. Perhaps I will upgrade to PC66 eventually.
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Jan 22, 2014 10:06 AM in response to In-Correctby bund,Good to know that we were not wrong. What do you mean by upgrade to PC66?
PC66 is the OLD and slower standard for memory modules.
BTW if you plan to install an Airport Card - same problem - you have to push it in, otherwise it has no proper contact.
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Jan 22, 2014 2:22 PM in response to In-Correctby K Shaffer,There may be a compatibility if the pin count, voltage, and any buffers, etc between the newer PC100/133 and the older standard PC66; if you can get the original PC66 of the proper capacity, that'd be OK.
Somewhere I had a page link saved or maybe bookmarked in one of my several Mac browsers, that had information on compatibility of newer chips to replace older ones.
And some of these even with modern hardware can be flakey or damage the computer. Or work just long enough to confuse the user once they do start to fail. A cross-compatibility of 204-pin RAM that may work in both MacBook and iMac, over a year or two, can be a problem; in that one set runs hot and uses more power in the portable. But is OK in the iMac.
{The FW clamshell iBook G3 uses the same series upgrade RAM the first White iBook G3 does, or at least when I upgraded the chip in mine, it took a PC100/66 512MB, to max at 576MB total. Later I sold it to a really old guy, as his first computer. He wrote letters online and did email. I provided a few years support to help him learn about Macs. That sale included the box and all the original kit, plus later OS X upgrade discs.}
Anyway, it does help to seat the RAM fully yet carefully.
Removing RAM may also be a matter of light force, too.
Glad to hear you got some activity out of the exercise.
Good luck & happy computing!
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Jan 31, 2014 12:16 PM in response to K Shafferby Ronda Wilson,K Shaffer wrote:
Somewhere I had a page link saved or maybe bookmarked in one of my several Mac browsers, that had information on compatibility of newer chips to replace older ones.
This doesn't list compatibility of newer chips to replace older ones, but may be helpful, all the same: