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Q: will my Maverick's clone on external hard drive transfer to new iMac

I had 2009 iMac 24" 3.06gHz running Mavericks very nicely.  When having a new hard drive installed 1 month ago I used CCC to clone

my slowly failing drive--just in case.  So--last week my office was burglarized and iMac stolen!  Used Lock & Erase which worked perfectly as

5 hours after theft they connected to internet and my stolen iMac was remotely erased very quickly.  Yay.  So my question is if I try to

'restore" to a new iMac will my Mavericks clone install properly?  A full clone of older iMac won't have system drivers for Thunderbolt or USB 3.  I

have many many business programs and documents and would rather not install all my programs again.  I use my iMac for business and

my 2 other macs at home are incapable of running Mavericks.  Carbon Copy Cloner has always worked fine but Mavericks and latest iMac?

iMac, Mac OS 9.1.x, 24" 3.06 gHz

Posted on Jan 21, 2014 7:14 PM

by AppleMan1958,Solvedanswer
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A:

The advantage of the Time Machine backup is that it should be "up to the minute". But either the clone or Time Machine should work.

 

Good info here from the late Mr. Pondini. (James Ponds).

http://pondini.org/OSX/Setup.html

Posted on Jan 21, 2014 8:22 PM

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  • by Kappy,Helpful

    Kappy Kappy Jan 21, 2014 7:17 PM in response to ronronscienceman
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    Jan 21, 2014 7:17 PM in response to ronronscienceman

    Sorry, but the differences in the builds will make your clone fail to work on a new model. But since it's on an external drive you can try booting the new computer from the external drive to see if it will work.

  • by ronronscienceman,

    ronronscienceman ronronscienceman Jan 21, 2014 7:46 PM in response to Kappy
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    Jan 21, 2014 7:46 PM in response to Kappy

    Thanks for your response Kappy.  My old iMac had Mas90 accounting program running on Parallels that I need

    to interface with accountant.  The clone did boot to a friend's 2011 MBP which amazed me and got my hopes up for a new computer.  The clone always did boot to original iMac but I expected as much.  I suppose I could buy a similar used 2009 24" 3.06 but didn't want all that work to be running an older computer. 

     

    All my InDesign, Word, Photoshop docs will just copy over to new computer but Sage Mas90 is a funny program

    and will cost a bundle to relicense it to my new computer.  Everything on old computer was running so well I was hoping my immediate future moving to new iMac would be just as seemless. 

     

    Thanks again for your informed answer.

  • by AppleMan1958,

    AppleMan1958 AppleMan1958 Jan 21, 2014 7:50 PM in response to ronronscienceman
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    Jan 21, 2014 7:50 PM in response to ronronscienceman

    Should work fine, but you do not want to clone your new iMac. Rather you should attach the clone and use it with the Setup Assistant or the Migration Assistant.

     

    You can also restore your Mac if you have a Time Machine backup to the new Mac.

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Jan 21, 2014 8:07 PM in response to ronronscienceman
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    Jan 21, 2014 8:07 PM in response to ronronscienceman

    There is no issue with Parallels on the new models. Adobe products will work as well depending upon the versions that you have.

     

    Although a clone can boot an older model, that is no assurance it will boot a new one. Usually, you cannot install or use an OS version that is older than the version that is pre-installed when new. This is not a hard and fast rule, but it is generally true. And, this is also the case for different builds of the same OS version. New models may have different builds because of new hardware changes that will not be incorporated in a release version until the next release.

     

    Generally, I would advise you not upgrade your hardware until after you are able to verify from the software developers that their software will work on the new hardware and OS versions. Doing so can be a major disruption because of your mission critical software.

  • by ronronscienceman,

    ronronscienceman ronronscienceman Jan 21, 2014 8:13 PM in response to AppleMan1958
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    Jan 21, 2014 8:13 PM in response to AppleMan1958

    My 2008 2TB Time Capsule at home had stopped working to back up my MacPro 2.66 but after I cloned my iMac at home the Airport Setup assistant reported problems and my iMac running Mavericks fixed that old Time Capsule then did a back up of my iMac.  I was so concerned about the hard drive upgrade I actually made 2 clones plus the Time Machine backup.  So  the Time capsule backup would be better than my clone to transfer to new machine?  That would be great.  Over 18 years and 8-10 macs I always avoided Migration Assistant as it always seemed to get hung up  back in 10.5, 10.4, 10.3 days and I had to manually install all my programs again.  3 Time capsules and I've never done a full restore from one

     

    With all the clones I did I forgot I backed it up at home after the iMac repaired my Time Capsule

     

    Thank you

  • by andyBall_uk,

    andyBall_uk andyBall_uk Jan 21, 2014 8:18 PM in response to ronronscienceman
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    Jan 21, 2014 8:18 PM in response to ronronscienceman

    According to Apple, the most recent models shipped with a build of 10.9, so if your clone is 10.9.1, it may well work, since it's a later version. You can try starting & running from the external clone beforehand, although setup/migration should work in any case.

  • by Kappy,

    Kappy Kappy Jan 21, 2014 8:19 PM in response to ronronscienceman
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    Jan 21, 2014 8:19 PM in response to ronronscienceman

    I would use your Time Machine backup to transfer your Home folder to the new machine. That's basically what a Time Machine backup is for when used in the Setup Assistant. However, you can do exactly the same thing using one of your clones.

     

    The idea is only to transfer your Home folder, third-party applications and support software, and system preferences. You don't transfer any system software so this avoids any problems with version differences in OS X.

     

    Preferably do this in Setup Assistant so you will end up with your old Home folder as the Home folder on the new computer.

  • by AppleMan1958,Solvedanswer

    AppleMan1958 AppleMan1958 Jan 21, 2014 8:22 PM in response to ronronscienceman
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    Jan 21, 2014 8:22 PM in response to ronronscienceman

    The advantage of the Time Machine backup is that it should be "up to the minute". But either the clone or Time Machine should work.

     

    Good info here from the late Mr. Pondini. (James Ponds).

    http://pondini.org/OSX/Setup.html

  • by ronronscienceman,

    ronronscienceman ronronscienceman Jan 21, 2014 8:54 PM in response to Kappy
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    Jan 21, 2014 8:54 PM in response to Kappy

    Kappy,  Yes, I lost my common sense for a moment some months back and updated that work iMac to Mavericks from Snow Leopard.  It made that iMac run much faster--had to update Parallels from version 6 to 7 but my Win 7 virtual drive ran great.  First Mavericks release did have some bugs--all my Smart Folders in Mail stopped working, Spotlight searches came up empty-handed but the updates have addressed most quirks and at least on my computer, Adobe InDesign CS 6, Word, Acrobat Pro all ran faster than on Snow Leopard.  I only need Mas90 occassionally so losing that isn't a deal breaker with me getting new hardware. 

     

    Earlier today going through Craigslist looking for 2009 iMacs was not very thrilling.  I'll probably take my chances on New and try a restore from Time Capsule.  The worst that can happen is I spend 4 days of spare time getting it all back in order.  I'm sure I'll be happier with new when it's done. 

     

    I've been working for past 2 days (theft was Sat 5:00am according to ADT) and it's been **** not having my

    work computer.  Thanks for all your input.  I was starting to chicken out thinking about all the work involved with a fresh install.  I've been rethinking the security part so didn't just purchase immediately.