Mac Pro slow write speed on Samsung SSD drive

Hi,


I am wondering why I get very slow write speeds on my Samsung SSD 840 Series 250 GB system startup drive in my Mac Pro (early 2008).


I get an average write speed of approx. 35 MB/s and not much more for top speed. I tested it by transfering a large file (8GB, .m4v)from my Mac Pro internal Raid 0 (4x 2TB Stripe Set) delivering up to 550 MB/s. The read speed of the SSD is around 270 MB/s which I consider to be OK for that I have just the 3 Gb/s internal SATA interfaces in my pretty outdated Mac Pro.


I don't see any Memory or CPU overruns or consuming system tasks while doing the tests and no other user programs except Activity Monitor is running. The following screen shots from the Activity Monitor should proove my findings:


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Setup:

Samsung SSD 840 Series 250 GB (SATA 6Gb/s and 3Gb/s compatible) system startup drive. Free Space left on SSD is around 100GB of 250GB.

Mac Pro (early 2008, Model 3,1), 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 8 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB.

OS X Mavericks 10.9.1



Samsung sais there should be 540 MB/s for Seq. Read and 250 MB/s for Seq. Write for their SSD drive.


Any hints what could be done to increase especially that low write speed of around 35 MB/s (average) on the SSD in my Mac Pro?

Posted on Jan 23, 2014 2:51 AM

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Jan 23, 2014 5:26 AM in response to The hatter

Hi The hatter,


Thanks a lot for your support.


I measured with different tools not just the Activity Monitor. I used as well Blackmagicdesigns Disk Speed Test and iStat Menu's monitor (AJA's disk test won't let me run the tests on my startup drive).


I didn't expect to get 540/250 on SATA II (as I am aware of the limitation around 380 MB/s of SATA II) but I didn't understand why I only got 270/40. 270 MB/s on read I thought is OK, but not just 40 MB/s on write.


I didn't know about TRIM Enabler. Just bought it on your advice, installed it and now, look what happens, I get new write speeds of at least double the speed than before. Say 80 - 100 MB/s for writes. I think thats great, isn't it?


Thanks for guiding me in the right direction.

Jan 23, 2014 6:20 AM in response to Andy Epprecht

The 4 x SATA II drive bays all share a very limited common controller wtih max bandwith for all of less than 750MB/sec and each is not indepentent or 300MB/sec which even then would be 250MB/sec or slightly more.


Now, do you have a clone of the SSD you can also boot from on a traditional drive? only need that 250GB which is easy to find and create a partition for. Clone to that and boot from there and run DU Repair once it also has TRIM Enabler. And if you ever need to restore the system to the SSD. - I like to have a couple, one with last OS version, a backup before I install or update to next itteration of Mavericks. One that still has Lion or 10.8.5.


130MB/sec is within norms for 840's using Samsung Magician (Windows only, updates firmware, check performance and health of device).


A small change, small fee, but it 'paid off!'

Jan 23, 2014 6:43 AM in response to The hatter

Really great 'The hatter' !!!


Thanks a lot for your exceptional support.


Next to my 4x discs in the 4 SATA II drive bays I have installed a additional OWC drive kit that allows me to have another 2 disks sitting in the empty bay below the CD/DVD drive and those are connected to the motherboard. So there is a lot to handle for that controller you mentionned ;-)


I will follow your guidance and boot from my 'maintenance' system on direct attached external drive, install the TRIM Enabler there as well and do the DU repair run. I always have a separate system available that gives me the chance to boot my Mac from there. And in addition I regularly use ONYX to keep my OS X clean and do the maintenance.


Anyway, you're the man of the day!


PS; I am looking forward to finally receive my new Mac Pro (late 2013) ordered on the 18th of December one of these days and then I hope that I can fly ;-)

Jan 23, 2014 7:17 AM in response to Andy Epprecht

One thing SSD does is forces having a system only (w/ apps) boot drive and all the data and media on other drives. A lot easier, quieter, with fewer drives and devices.


Your lower optical bay drives do NOT use the same shared SATA II bus controller, so they are their own. Your two could be their own scratch array or media library array or anything else.


I found iPhoto was bogged down by reading from and writing to the same drive which is always a slow process, putting any type of graphic library on its own SSD (works for Lightroom, Aperture very very well). \


No matter what or how well you optimized your 3,1 it would not do what nMP 6,1 will, maybe buy time is all for the inevitable. Even GPU's have a limited return on investment in terms of raw gpu power (that is where the 2010 shines with a pair of GPUs and better PCIe slots).


Thanks. Glad when things work out.

Jan 23, 2014 9:03 AM in response to FatMac-MacPro

Our old ODD ports (call the first set #0 thru #3, these as #4 & 5) are separate. But applies to 1,1 thru 3,1 board design.


The 4,1 and 5,1 have no spare SATA ports and just the one lower optical bay which has different properties and limitations because it was meant for optical devices and for ejecting etc, but yes on a different bus and controller. But maybe not ideal bus for system to be on.

Jan 27, 2014 1:05 PM in response to The hatter

Regarding that lower optical bay on the 4,1 and 5,1 Mac Pros, I discovered a process chart of the Processor board in the Apple Technician Guide and the portion showing the South Bridge connections (p29). The SATA 3Gbps connection has 6 channels with 4 channels going to bays 1 through 4, each with 0.3GB/s bandwidth, and two channels going to the optical bay with each drive also getting its own 0.3GB/s bandwidth. The only difference appears to be that the channels going to the four bays are first connected to the SATA/SAS Mux (which, I imagine, ties a RAID card to the drives in the RAID array) and then get sent to the four bays and/or the fourth PCIe slot which also deals with RAID.


Is there something else I should be looking for as the downside of an SSD in the lower optical bay?

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