Automatically and manually rotated photos don't count as edits?

Sorry - Apple is not here - this is strictly a user to user forum manned by volenteers - noone here can expain Apple's logic or change anything

But the most likely reason it that the modified version is for other programs to be access the potos correctly

Have a nice day

LN

Previews are for access access by MS Word, etc - without them having to understand how to edit them (incuding autorotate)

LN

Ask Apple - iPhoto menu ==> provide iPhoto feedback

again

Sorry - Apple is not here - this is strictly a user to user forum manned by volenteers - no one here can expain Apple's logic or change anything

What part of that is difficult for you to understand?

LN

so lets assume that 1,000,000,000 respond that you are totally correct - so what - it still is what it is - and this forum is only about iPhoto exactly as it is - it is strictly about voleteer users helping other users us iPhoto correctly - it is not about what iPhoto might be - or what it should be - or what it could be - or what you personally tink it should be - it is only about what it is - and what it is is what it is - logical or illogical - good or bad - etc, etc, etc

So what exactly is your point?

LN

In the strictest sense of the words, yes, the photo has been manipulated. But it's invisible to the user. On their camera it's seen the right way up, and in iPhoto it's seen the right way up. The user doesn't know anything about exif display tags, neither does s/he have to. Then when they share the image to an email or word processor, it all just works.

So, why don't these images show up in an Edited Smart Album? I would guess - and it's no more than a guess - that the developers think

a: it would be confusing to the user: - I didn't edit that photo, why does iPhoto think I did?

b: it would clutter up the Edited smart album with images that - most likely - the user isn't actually looking for.

c: There's no good reason to find such images.

But those are guesses, and no more.

Why does iPhoto make a discrepency between rotating an image and cropping an image? Are they both not edits of the original?

Because the rotate does'nt change the image at all, just rotates it so you don't have to rotate your display to see it without twisting your neck into a pretzell. 🙂

However, a crop removes some of the image and is, therefore, an edit. However, you can do a Revert to Original on one of the auto rotated images and it will remove it (only to have it recreated immediately) which is partly similar to an edited photo's response to that same revert feature, just not permanent.

OT

The Original is preserved because everything is based on it - it's the original plus the edit decisions. Without the original you have nothing to export, nothing to share, nothing to edit. That's how non-destructuve editing works, and you want that, don't you? Or if you don't, why use iPhoto?

Remember, that Rotated version is just a Preview - that's what's used in Media Browsers and drag and drop. It's a medium quality-good for most things-but missing a lot of metadata version of the image designed for use where that sort of quality is required. However, you can export much higher quality than that using the File -> Export command, into a variety of formats, at different qualities preserving and adding metadata, and so on.

The key issue here is simple: either you want non-destructive editing or you don't. If you don't then you should not be using iPhoto as it's designed expressly to work in that mode. That's what it's designed for.

Sorry - but once again although you love to argue - we are simply users no different from you and no one here has any power to make any changes no mater how good of changes they are (and IMHO yours is not - replacing the original bit for bit copy of the imported image with one that has been modified in anyway makes no sense at all - now you no longer have the "original"

SO not it does not make any sense at all to call a modified copy the original - but if it did it would make no different at all

If you have any questions that you want answered about how to use iPhoto as it is this is a great place to ask them - it really is not a great place to sit around and makeup things to argue about - expecially ones where you are totally wrong but keep pressing your incorrect opinion over and over and over and over and over and over The original by defination can not have any modifications made to it and still be the original

LN

Tell Apple:

iPhoto Menu -> Provide iPhoto Feedback