Ashtonj264

Q: On Logic Pro X, my songs are always quiet once I bounce them to mp3.

Whenever I am finished recording over a track, adding adlibs etc, and then I have mastered my music as much as I can (I am pretty new to Logic), I bounce it in mp3 format to a folder. When i drag it to itunes and play it, it is very quiet. The quality is fine, but the song is nowhere near as loud as the other songs on my itunes, like album quality songs from professional artists. This seems like such an easy fix, yet I have never found a solution on any thread. I have a song coming out, and I need to meet deadline. Any help is much appreciated!

Logic Pro X, OS X Mavericks (10.9.1), Exporting ruins the volume.

Posted on Feb 1, 2014 7:43 PM

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Q: On Logic Pro X, my songs are always quiet once I bounce them to mp3.

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  • by octopi,

    octopi octopi Mar 4, 2015 2:34 PM in response to Waterback
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    Mar 4, 2015 2:34 PM in response to Waterback

    Step 1: A lot of studios have a characteristic ambience. All the great drums recorded in 'that' spot at Rock City, for example. At home you can alter your acoustic ambience by making reflective and absorbative surfaces to improve your environment depending on WHAT YOU ARE GOING FOR. No ambient sound at all would be an anechoic chamber and for a record, that would sound terrible. If you're in a bad space, deaden the reflections but there WILL still be ambient sound. Deaden or diffuse and you can use carefully chosen reverbs.

     

    Step 2: Your whole step 2 is complete gibberish. If you're saying don't leave any headroom whilst tracking… well, I hope you're not saying that because only a complete idiot would advise that.

     

    Step 3: Your description of EQ is interesting. Is 'sharper' sounding really altogether more professional? Logic does have several great EQ's but push the gain 'as high as you like' at your own risk and at the risk of the hearing of your audience especially if you have made that sound 'sharper'.

     

    Step 4: Logic will not automatically normalise a song that clips. It will just square wave (clip) the the peaks. Normalising will bring the the whole waveform up or down, equally, to the set db, not just take the tops down. That would be limiting. When you clip an output it sends a square wave which is way more likely to fry a speaker than just loud music. Although you do say if you don't want to normalise the song just make sure you avoid clipping at the end of this step, you also say, at the beginning of step 4, Logic automatically normalises a song that clips. That must help the OP greatly.

     

    Step 5: No idea what you're going on about aside from the last sentence which is advice so laughable you are in fact in danger of killing innocent board readers from laughter. Although, close miking, far miking and all in between. All mic techniques to learn and apply.

     

    Well done. But please, don't listen to any of us fools who skirt around issues and have one stupid point to make. Art of Sound, Pancenter, Erik, kc, GEM….. I'm looking at you guys as well as me…… admit it, we're all fools. Dancing fooooollllllls.

     

    ps this post was a lot harsher. A lot harsher. But I got told off so this is the edited version.

  • by Eriksimon,

    Eriksimon Eriksimon Mar 4, 2015 3:09 PM in response to Waterback
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    Mar 4, 2015 3:09 PM in response to Waterback

    Waterback wrote:

     

    Please don't listen to these people, they have one if very stupid, but yes one point to make which is:
    mastering/re-mastering/recording/mixing are difficult processes, for various reasons it's true.

    I will take you through exactly what it should be that you focus on to make your project "sound" both clearer and better, which these fools have skirted because they lack the expertise.

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  • by DORMEE,

    DORMEE DORMEE Aug 1, 2015 4:09 PM in response to Ashtonj264
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    Aug 1, 2015 4:09 PM in response to Ashtonj264

    I had the same problem, but the plugin KClip from Kazrog really helped me. They have a free demo you can download here http://kazrog.com/products/kclip/ Use it in your Stereo Output channel and it will do the trick. Just play with it a little first to get your preferred setting. Also, using it in conjunction with the Multipressor (it comes with Logic in the Dynamics category of plugins) does the job of getting the commercial level loudness you need. Just have the Multipressor before the KClip setting and that's all you need! Don't forget to turn the Guard switch on in KClip.

  • by hsdrecording,

    hsdrecording hsdrecording May 4, 2016 8:24 PM in response to Ashtonj264
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    May 4, 2016 8:24 PM in response to Ashtonj264

    I just got logic x.  I imported an Adele song into it for a quick edit for a dance troupe.  When i bounced out the mp3, it was much lower in volume.  I didnt do any processing on it.  I just cut out a verse and bounced it.  So, wheres the issue now?

  • by Pancenter,

    Pancenter Pancenter May 4, 2016 8:56 PM in response to hsdrecording
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    May 4, 2016 8:56 PM in response to hsdrecording

    Was the track volume -and- the Master Fader set to Unity Gain?

    In the Bounce Dialog make sure Normalize is set to Off.

    In Logic's Settings/Audio set   Pan Law   to   0Db 

  • by jfuentes29,

    jfuentes29 jfuentes29 Sep 17, 2016 10:27 PM in response to Ashtonj264
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    Sep 17, 2016 10:27 PM in response to Ashtonj264

    Yes, I just talked to a guy at guitar center about this and I have the answer. Mastering actually comes AFTER you bounce the track, then you bounce it again after the mastering is completed. Allow me to explain...

     

    You do general EQ on each individual track/ instrument, and ad reverb or whatever you need to, but DO NOT add anything to the master output. After that, you actually lower the master output track (not the volume bar on the upper right) to -9db. Once this is done, bounce the song as and AIF, not an MP3 or an M4A. It's higher quality, but as a result it is a larger file size.

     

    Now that you have the AIF, you drag that into a new project within logic, you can add a bitcusher distortion to the track. that will significantly bring up the volume, and the master output track should be at about -3db. I know most people don't use bitcrusher to master, but the guy at guitar center showed me on his macbook pro and it was actually legit!! Honestly, I was thoroughly surprised as to how well it worked on my song. I hope this helps!!

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