Toyworks11

Q: HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED THIS WITH MAVERICKS

I can't help but notice since I loaded Mavericks, that my Mac is running way too much. It runs and rattles away like I'm calculating the postion of each star in the galaxie. I have never heard it work so hard, and It's not even doing anything. It's like a car sitting still and reving the engine. It rattles on for up to 10 minutes at a time before it stops.

I just wanted to know if anyone else has been noticing this. Taking into account all the other downgrades that came with Mavericks, I'm wondering if we might have to upgrade back to Mountain Lion.

I don't want to sound negative, but I am looking for input from others to see if mine is the only Mack that took the hit.

iMac, Mac OS X (10.6.8), Update keeps installing old softwar

Posted on Feb 5, 2014 11:17 PM

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  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Feb 15, 2014 5:57 AM in response to Toyworks11
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    Mac OS X
    Feb 15, 2014 5:57 AM in response to Toyworks11

    Toyworks11 I wish to reiterate to you and anyone else reading this Discussion that following MacPaw's instructions to uninstall it does not work:

     

    "Another way to remove CleanMyMac 2 is by simply dragging it to the Trash. However, by doing this, as with removing any other app, it will leave application leftovers on your Mac. It is recommended to use the Uninstaller module of CleanMyMac 2 for complete removal."

     

    This is, unfortunately and not surprisingly, simply B.S. That characterization is also disturbingly common for garbage software peddlers regarding their uninstallers and / or usage instructions.

     

    The following files are CreamMyMac "leftovers" (their terminology, not mine) that remained on my Mac after uninstalling it according to MacPaw's worthless instructions and rebooting:

     

    ~/Library/Preferences/com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.diskSpaceWatcher.plist

    ~/Library/Application Support/CleanMyMac 2/CleanMyMac 2 Helper.app

    /private/var/run/com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2.Agent.socket

    app.com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2.playlist

    com.plausiblelabs.crashreporter.data

     

    The User Launch Agent and socket remained even after reinstalling OS X, so that commonly recommended action also will not help.

     

    I regret that I did not record the location of the last two files. If and when I find some more time I'll install CMM again and take more copious notes. There may also be other "leftovers" that I did not find, and whose effects are unknown. Why did MacPaw leave them present, what do they do, and why are they so hard to find? I have no answers to those questions. Therefore, I wish to emphasize, in an abundance of caution, that any Mac that has ever been affected by CleanMyMac at any time be completely erased and reconfigured from the ground up.

     

    This recommendation holds true for any garbage "cleaning", "optimizing", "security" or similarly categorized filth, and is not limited at all to CleanMyMac. There are many other garbage utilities that are just as bad or worse. They are not viruses and they are not malware. They are simply scam products designed to take your money, and they do that with remarkable effectiveness. Similar products exist on every platform including iOS. There is no non-Apple "protection" product in the world that can protect you from willfully installing them.

     

    I do not make any recommendations for actions that I have not personally verified on my own Macs, and an "erase and reinstall" is in fact what I do to ensure complete eradication from the systems I use to test the effects of it, and junk like it. When you reinstall your essential software, files, documents, and other work products, don't reinstall the junk.


  • by Toyworks11,

    Toyworks11 Toyworks11 Feb 16, 2014 1:56 AM in response to John Galt
    Level 1 (10 points)
    Feb 16, 2014 1:56 AM in response to John Galt

    John, I am convinced you are right. Now I have noticed since installing mavericks that when I do a shift/command/4 screen shot, the shot takes up to 40 seconds to land on the desk top.....crazy.

    I have been fighting this problem for some time now, and I just want it to end. Can you advise me of how to do a wipe and re-install? i have the 2 discs that came with my system.

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Feb 16, 2014 5:44 AM in response to Toyworks11
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    Mac OS X
    Feb 16, 2014 5:44 AM in response to Toyworks11

    There are a few ways of accomplishing that but I recommend the following procedure since it will not erase anything until the last steps, and will leave you no worse off than you are now.

     

    1. Obtain an external hard disk drive of sufficient capacity. External 1 TB USB hard disks are commonly available for considerably less than $100. Even Wal-Mart has one for $70. If you contemplate using Time Machine in the future (which you should), given your present system consider getting at least a 2 TB hard disk drive.
    2. Connect the drive to your Mac. Using Disk Utility, erase it. Choose "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)" as its format, which is the default choice. Erasing will take only a moment or two.
    3. When Disk Utility finishes, boot OS X Recovery by holding ⌘ and r (two fingers) while you start your Mac.
    4. At the Mac OS X Utilities screen, select "Reinstall Mac OS X". When you choose the destination volume, use caution to select the external one. The correct icon is orange and bears the USB logo.
    5. You will need to sign in with the Apple ID and password you used to install Mavericks.
    6. It will take some time to download additional components from Apple's servers, an hour or more, depending on the speed of your Internet connection.
    7. When it finishes, your Mac will automatically restart and begin installing Mavericks on the external volume. That will take another hour or so.
    8. Then, you will be presented with a series of questions - which language to use and how your Mac connects to the Internet. They should be self-explanatory.
    9. Then, you will be presented with the opportunity to transfer information. At that screen, select "From a Mac, Time Machine backup, or startup disk".
    10. On the next screen, select your iMac's internal disk. It will be the silver icon resembling an internal hard disk drive.
    11. The next screen will ask what you want to transfer. In it, select only your User account, and any additional accounts if you have more than one. De-select all other checkboxes.
    12. It will take some time to transfer your account, a few hours given your present usage. The progress bar and time remaining estimates can be wildly inaccurate.
    13. After it finishes, you will be asked to "Register Your Mac". Assuming you did that already, select "Don't Register" and acknowledge with the Skip button.
    14. Click the arrow to "Start using your Mac" and log in with your usual password.
    15. At the Apple ID Password screen, I suggest you select "Set Up Later" and acknowledge with "Don't Use".
    16. Depending on the iCloud services you have been using you will be asked for your iCloud password again. Provide it each time it's needed.

     

    After that you will have a usable but minimally configured installation, and can choose to start your Mac from it or as it is at present. To choose one or the other, use Startup Manager - hold an option key while you start your Mac. Provided no hardware problems exist, your Mac should run like blazes when started from the USB volume. If the same problems exist though, it's very likely to be a hardware problem that only an Apple Store can fix.

     

    Use the Mac for a little while and satisfy yourself that it is running as it should. Install all Apple updates from the App Store. Install your printers and make sure they work. Install LogMeIn if you require it, and verify it works as expected. Make sure your photos, videos, music, and other documents are all intact. Only after using it and determining your Mac is operating normally, install your essential software which excludes Trusteer, CleanMy***, Conduit, and other such junk. When you do that, install new copies from their original sources - CD / DVD, or Mac App Store, or downloaded from their respective developer's authorized sources. When and if asked for a location on which to install the software, use caution to specify the external disk. I suggest you "eject" the internal one to avoid confusion. If you choose to do so, that action will be required each time you restart your Mac.

     

    Continue to use your Mac in that manner, hours or days if necessary, until you are completely satisfied everything works to your liking. A Mac started from an external USB device won't start up as fast as it does while using its internal drive, but once you log in its performance should not be objectionably slow.

     

    Then, when you are finally ready, "clone" the external drive onto the internal one. For that, I recommend Carbon Copy Cloner. It's $40 and worth it. There are other, similar utilities but I have not used anything else recently. You can also use Disk Utility to do the same thing but CCC is easier. Carbon Copy Cloner will create an exact, bootable copy of your external volume and place it on your iMac's internal volume, after which you can disconnect your USB drive and put it away. If something unexpected should occur, boot from your external drive again and figure out what's wrong.

     

    Only after you are satisfied the iMac is working to your liking, re-purpose the external drive for Time Machine backups so you'll never have to face this situation again.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Feb 16, 2014 11:40 AM in response to Toyworks11
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    iTunes
    Feb 16, 2014 11:40 AM in response to Toyworks11

    SIMBL has also caused problems for people.

     

    SIMBL Uninstall

     

    SIMBL Uninstall (2)     See solution posted by Linc Davis .

  • by Toyworks11,

    Toyworks11 Toyworks11 Feb 20, 2014 5:33 PM in response to Eric Root
    Level 1 (10 points)
    Feb 20, 2014 5:33 PM in response to Eric Root

    It seems like when I open my Mac mail, it starts in hammering my Hard drive. When I shut it off it stops. What could be causing that? This is killing me.

     

     

    Hardware Information:

              iMac (27-inch, Mid 2010)

              iMac - model: iMac11,3

              1 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3 CPU: 2 cores

              4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              ATI Radeon HD 5670 - VRAM: 512 MB

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.9.1 (13B42) - Uptime: 1 day 3:27:8

     

    Disk Information:

              ST31000528AS disk0 : (1 TB)

                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 999.35 GB (276.66 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5680H 

     

    USB Information:

              Eastman Kodak Company KODAK ESP 5200 Series AiO

     

              Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

              Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

     

              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

     

              Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

     

    FireWire Information:

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

     

    Kernel Extensions:

              com.squirrels.driver.AirParrotSpeakers          (1.7 - SDK 10.7)

              com.squirrels.airparrot.framebuffer          (3 - SDK 10.7)

              com.logmein.driver.LogMeInSoundDriver          (1.0.0)

     

    Startup Items:

              NoteburnerService: Path: /System/Library/StartupItems/NoteburnerService

     

    Launch Daemons:

              [System] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.logmein.logmeinserver.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.logmein.raupdate.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist 3rd-Party support link

     

    Launch Agents:

              [System] com.conduit.loader.agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.google.keystone.agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.kodak.BonjourAgent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.logmein.logmeingui.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.logmein.logmeinguiagent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.logmein.logmeinguiagentatlogin.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.maintain.CocktailSystemEvents.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist 3rd-Party support link

     

    User Launch Agents:

              [not loaded] com.kodak.KODAK AiO Firmware Updater.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [not loaded] com.kodak.KODAK AiO Software Updater.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [not loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.scheduledScan.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [not loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.trashWatcher.plist 3rd-Party support link

     

    User Login Items:

              SimpleFloatingClock

              BirdClock

              SimpleFloatingClock

              Google Chrome

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

              o1dbrowserplugin: Version: 5.1.4.17398 3rd-Party support link

              LogMeInSafari64: Version: 1.0.530 3rd-Party support link

              Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.1 3rd-Party support link

              Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

              Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.3.8.1 3rd-Party support link

              Silverlight: Version: 5.1.10411.0 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 12.0.0.70 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              LogMeIn: Version: 1.0.530 3rd-Party support link

              Flash Player: Version: 12.0.0.70 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              LogMeInSafari32: Version: 1.0.530 3rd-Party support link

              googletalkbrowserplugin: Version: 5.1.4.17398 3rd-Party support link

              iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0 - SDK 10.8

              GarminGpsControl: Version: 4.1.0.0 Release - SDK 10.7 3rd-Party support link

              npgtpo3dautoplugin: Version: 0.1.44.29 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

              QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

              JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 14.8.0 - SDK 10.9 Outdated! Update

     

    Safari Extensions:

              iMedia Converter Deluxe  : Version: 3.5.0

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

              AirPlay: Version: 1.9 - SDK 10.9

              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0 - SDK 10.9

              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    iTunes Plug-ins:

              Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

     

    User Internet Plug-ins:

              Picasa: Version: 1.0 3rd-Party support link

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              Flash Player  3rd-Party support link

              MagicPrefs  3rd-Party support link

     

    Old Applications:

              iSkysoft Helper Compact:          Version: 2.2.6.4 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        /Users/[redacted]/Library/Application Support/Helper/iSkysoft Helper Compact.app

              /Applications/Google SketchUp 8

                        SketchUp:          Version: 8.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        LayOut:          Version: 3.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        Style_Builder:          Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

              SLLauncher:          Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        /Library/Application Support/Microsoft/Silverlight/OutOfBrowser/SLLauncher.app

              /Library/Printers/Kodak/AiO_Printers

                        KODAK AiO Home Center:          Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        Registration:          Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        KODAK AiO Scan:          Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        KODAK AiO Software Updater:          Version: 7.7 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        KODAK AiO Uninstall:          Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        AiOFirmwareUpdater:          Version: 7.7 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

     

    Time Machine:

              Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                   3%          mds_stores

                   2%          Mail

                   2%          WindowServer

                   1%          mds

                   1%          EtreCheck

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              193 MB          mds_stores

              115 MB          softwareupdated

              82 MB          Mail

              66 MB          WindowServer

              61 MB          Safari

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

              1.58 GB          Free RAM

              974 MB          Active RAM

              799 MB          Inactive RAM

              612 MB          Wired RAM

              1.29 GB          Page-ins

              35 MB          Page-outs

  • by Toyworks11,

    Toyworks11 Toyworks11 Feb 20, 2014 5:35 PM in response to Csound1
    Level 1 (10 points)
    Feb 20, 2014 5:35 PM in response to Csound1

    I uninstalled Trusteer last week.

  • by Lexiepex,

    Lexiepex Lexiepex Mar 3, 2014 2:11 AM in response to Toyworks11
    Level 6 (10,536 points)
    Mac OS X
    Mar 3, 2014 2:11 AM in response to Toyworks11

    Hello Toyworks,

    I am going to comment on your latest Etrecheck list.

    First:

    know that a Recovery of OSX does NOT clean or solve your issues: it just refreshes the OSX; some advertise that it helps clean up, but it does not, it will only be necessary when files in OSX itself are compromised.

    This can be when you used CleanMyMacs options as  for example "removing languages that you do not need". That sort of "options" destruct OSX.

    Second:

    an extremely good search engine is FindAnyFile (http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/), download it from the developers site (never use sites as cnet, macupdate, and so on). You will find all, even hidden files, much more than Spotlight.

    Third:

    You do NOT have to remove items in the /private/var/db/receipts/  folder: these items are there as reminder what apps were installed (once): it is this what is played in the /System/Information/Software/Installations  list: it show all installed software (also correctly uninstalled software) and all versions of it. If you remove an entry here, the ony consequence is that it is not "remembered¨ any more.

     

    About your list now:

    - If you stopped using Logmein (as I did) now it is paid: Uninstall it. An alternative is the free Teamviewer app.

    - Since you do not have Java installed you can delete the JavaApplet plugins: there was an advice that you should leave them in to "alert you" but that is nonsense. The only "Java" thing that must be there is the Javascript plugin but that has nothing to do with the Java application. The JavascriptPlugin is correctly not displayed in the etrecheck list.

    - Assuming you uninstalled Conduit, there is one more file left that you have to remove:

    in MacintoshHD /Library/LaunchAgents/   delete the   conduit.loader.agent.plist   file

      assuming you have uninstalled Cocktail, there is one file you have to remove in the same folder:

    delete the  CocktailSystemEvents.plist  file.

    when those apps are still installed, uninstall them, crapware.

      and you have to delete the  netculator.Simble.Agent.plist   also

    - Then remove the CleanMyMac leftovers: in  yourHomefolder/Library/LaunchAgents/  delte the two  macpaw   files: make sure that they are gone: CMM is one of the worst crapwares.

    - Take all entries out in  SystemPreferences/Users&Groups/LoginItems (with the minus sign underneath).

    If I were you, I would uninstall all those softwares at the same time. Unless you insist in using Chrome (I would use Opera, when you do not want to use Safari).

    - Uninstall MagicPrefs (SystemPreferences).

    - In   MacintoshHD /Library/InternetPlugins/  delete the follwing plugins:

    Flip4Mac, Silverlight, CocktailSystemEvents.plist  ,  JavaApplet.

    - Uninstall the iSkysoft software !

     

    Restart, empty the Trash bin.

    Respond with a new etrecheck list.

    Lex

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