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Ability to both use Green Screen and then resize the clip?

Imovie 10 - the Green Screen works great. Place one clip above the other and presto. But then if you want to shrink it and put it say on the bottom corner, there in no way. It looks like you can either use the Green Screen or the PIP but not both.


This is a problem as say clip on is of a field of buffalos. Clip 2 is you in front of a green screen. There is no way to alter the size of clip 2 to fit it into the herd. Clip 2 has the subject way too big. You would have to shoot it from an equil distance from the herd for the two clips to match up. If, after you Green Screen your clip you could then PIP in and adjust the size of the video it would be perfect.


Any suggestions or am I missing something?


And no, I am not bothering herds of buffalos, ....not since the accident anyway.

MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013), imovie 10

Posted on Feb 11, 2014 12:51 PM

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Posted on Jan 1, 2017 6:35 PM

You are right you can only use green screen or PIP but not both. That said, iMovie supports pre-keyed footage. Essentially certain codecs support transparency (e.g. ProRes4444). You can achieve the desired effect in two steps as others have mentioned by first creating the pre-keyed video then re-importing it for use with the PIP feature. There are several expensive apps (Apple Motion or Final Cut Pro) that can save out pre-keyed footage but if you had those, you wouldn't be using iMovie. I figured out you can do this for free using the slightly older iMovie 9.x.x. I believe you can still download it from Apple here. The trick to get an existing video that is completely transparent (i.e. ProRes4444). It doesn't matter how long the video is as you can extend it using the "Add Freeze Frame" feature. Add your green screen footage on top of the transparent movie and then export using Quicktime to a ProRes4444 movie. Make sure you use the Millions of Colors+ option. Once you create that, re-import into iMovie 10 and use it in the PIP function. I did this successfully today after a lot of experimentation so wanted to pass on the trick!

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Jan 1, 2017 6:35 PM in response to TomWashSt

You are right you can only use green screen or PIP but not both. That said, iMovie supports pre-keyed footage. Essentially certain codecs support transparency (e.g. ProRes4444). You can achieve the desired effect in two steps as others have mentioned by first creating the pre-keyed video then re-importing it for use with the PIP feature. There are several expensive apps (Apple Motion or Final Cut Pro) that can save out pre-keyed footage but if you had those, you wouldn't be using iMovie. I figured out you can do this for free using the slightly older iMovie 9.x.x. I believe you can still download it from Apple here. The trick to get an existing video that is completely transparent (i.e. ProRes4444). It doesn't matter how long the video is as you can extend it using the "Add Freeze Frame" feature. Add your green screen footage on top of the transparent movie and then export using Quicktime to a ProRes4444 movie. Make sure you use the Millions of Colors+ option. Once you create that, re-import into iMovie 10 and use it in the PIP function. I did this successfully today after a lot of experimentation so wanted to pass on the trick!

Feb 11, 2014 1:17 PM in response to Matthew Morgan

Thank you for your reply. I saw this solution on another thread and tried the following. Will go into what I found.


The green screen function will only work if the movie is on top of something else. Therefore, when you save it it is saving the file with the background behind it. I tried several.


Then if you import it into your main project, it contains that background and using PIP will certainly shrink it, but again, you can't green screen it....back to step one.


This solution you reference would work if the file contained the subject against a transparent background, but it doesn't, it contains whatever you had to use under it to get the green screen to work.




Sorry if I am missing something. Two days into this and can't believe it can't be done.


Tom

Feb 11, 2014 1:34 PM in response to TomWashSt

So the buffalo are the background you want to use in the green screen clip. OK I got it now.


You're right, what I describe will not work.


You're not going to be able to do it with iMovie alone.


You'd need to use something like Motion or After Effects to essentially cut out the green screen background and replace it with alpha channel that will be transparent when you use it a PIP in iMovie.


FinalCut Pro X might be able to do it as well (I know it can with white or black backgrounds).


Matt

Feb 11, 2014 1:36 PM in response to TomWashSt

FOLLOW UP: taking the suggestion by Matthew above I didn't give up.


step 1: put up something short for a main clip, doesn't matter what...just a couple of seconds worth.

step 2: put your green screen clip above it say 3 minutes

step 3: green screen your clip

step 4: save the whole thing as a stand alone file

step 5. import the saved file and place it above the clip you wanted it with in the first place.

step 6: trim off the first three sconds and it works.


bit of a hassle and can't believe they didn't allow for resizing a green screen clip...but at least it works.

Ability to both use Green Screen and then resize the clip?

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