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Q: updated to Pages 5.1, now pages will not open

I updated to Pages 5.1, now Pages will not open

Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2)

Posted on Feb 13, 2014 3:05 PM

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Q: updated to Pages 5.1, now pages will not open

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  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Feb 13, 2014 4:02 PM in response to tokiofromanthem
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    Feb 13, 2014 4:02 PM in response to tokiofromanthem

    It helps if you spend the time to actually say what is really going on, and have the correct tag. Obviously you are not on Mountain Lion any more.

     

    What I think you are talking about is you are opening the wrong version of Pages, probably Pages '09 and trying to open a document saved with Pages 5.

     

    They are both on your Mac.

     

    Pages 5 is in your Applications folder.

     

    Pages '08/'09 is in your Applications/iWork folder.

     

    Pages '08/'09 can not open Pages 5 files.

     

    Pages 5 opens Pages '09 but alters/damages them and when saved, these will not open in Pages '09 any more.

     

    Apple has removed 95+ feature from Pages 5 and added many bugs.

     

    Pages 5 is much more of a downgrade than an upgrade.

     

    Peter

  • by The Denizen,

    The Denizen The Denizen Mar 2, 2014 2:44 PM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Mar 2, 2014 2:44 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

    I am running Pages 5.1 on my MacBook Pro (10.9.1). After accessing my partly written PhD Thesis last Thursday, today the Pages file will not open. The message sayes "PhD Thesis can't be opened".

     

    As you can imagine this is quite a problem for me as the last backup was 2 weeks ago; so lots of changes since then.

     

    I have tried opening the file on a MacBook Air with Pages 5.1 but it showes the same error.

     

    I copied the file then tried looking at the 'package contents'. After which I deleted the large image files, but it still would not open.

     

    I have retreived the 2 week old Time Machine version and it opens OK but is obviously missing the last two weeks of changes.

     

    I am open to any suggestion on how to open this file!!!!!!!

     

    Will Apple fix the issues with Pages and then the file (with all my hard work) will open again, in other words should I wait a few days for an update?

     

    cheers,

    Marcus

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Mar 2, 2014 6:50 PM in response to The Denizen
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    Mar 2, 2014 6:50 PM in response to The Denizen

    No chance. Even in the unlikely event of Apple addressing the cause, your file will still be damaged.

     

    The problem has been around since Pages 5 came out  months ago. There were similar but not quite so drastic problems with Pages '09 but with some remediation methods.

     

    This is the price of doing your work in a proprietary, bloated, convoluted  and unparseable file system. That Apple will yet again abandon without notice.

     

    Which obviously is not a good idea if your work is important to you.

     

    If you salvage as much as you can I suggest you contimue in something more secure and rescuable, such as LibreOffice [free].

     

    Peter

  • by dollyfromqld,

    dollyfromqld dollyfromqld Mar 7, 2014 12:02 AM in response to tokiofromanthem
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    Mar 7, 2014 12:02 AM in response to tokiofromanthem

    I have 3 Macs .... all on OSX 10.9.2 and all have been upgraded to Pages 5.1 .... So it is reasonable to assume that I should be able to start a Pages document on one laptop ... save it to iCloud and open it on one of my other laptops  ..... well you are wrong!

    When I try and open it on another laptop it tells me I need a NEWER version of Pages !!! Well I already have the latest!!!!

    This is getting ridiculous ...

    And don't get me started on Numbers !!!!! Fancy nlot having the ability to work on "Page View" .......

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Mar 7, 2014 3:45 AM in response to dollyfromqld
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    Mar 7, 2014 3:45 AM in response to dollyfromqld

    …and you don't have Pages '09 in your Applications/iWork folder?

     

    Peter

  • by Yellowbox,

    Yellowbox Yellowbox Mar 7, 2014 6:08 AM in response to dollyfromqld
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    Mar 7, 2014 6:08 AM in response to dollyfromqld

    Hi Dolly,

     

    it tells me I need a NEWER version of Pages !!! Well I already have the latest!!!!

     

    On a more positive note, if you upgraded to Pages 5.1, you still have Pages '09 in a folder named iWork '09 inside your Applications folder. Drag the icons for Pages '09 and Pages 5.1 to your Dock. Right click on each in turn and Options > Keep in Dock. Now you can choose which Pages version to open.

     

    And don't get me started on Numbers !!!!! Fancy nlot having the ability to work on "Page View" .......

     

    Again, on a more positive note, look in the Numbers For Mac forum where positive thinkers have compiled not only a list of what has been lost, but have updated that list to show where updates to Numbers 3 have replaced what was lost.

     

    In many cases, "lost" is simply "It has been moved and I can't find it."

     

    Who Moved My Cheese?

    http://www.spencerjohnson.com/Book-WhoMovedMyCheese.html

     

    In the Numbers forum, look for these hints from positive thinkers:

     

    Features that Apple has promised to reinstate:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6049

     

    Hints on workarounds here:

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/23622372#23622372

     

    What has been GAINED in Numbers 3 is here:

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5473882?start=75&tstart=0

     

    What has been lost in Numbers 3 is here (with corrections where Apple has already reinstated some lost features in the Numbers 3.1 update):

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5470448?start=240&tstart=0

     

    But back to your question on the loss of Page View in Numbers 3.x

     

    Try these workarounds:

     

    Alignment Guides and Rulers as suggested here:

    Print View workarounds

     

    Numbers has never had Page Breaks. The Numbers approach is to have several tables, each with a purpose. For example, an input table, a number crunching table, and a "Presentation" table to summarise results.

     

    or design your tables so that each fits within a layout guide:

    Layout Guide for Numbers

     

    Such a shame that this Pages forum concentrates on losses rather than gains and workarounds. Where are the positive thinkers for Pages 5.x?

     

    Regards,

    Ian.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Mar 7, 2014 6:24 AM in response to Yellowbox
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    Mar 7, 2014 6:24 AM in response to Yellowbox

    Really Ian? You surprise me.

     

    Bit hard to not notice, considering the enormously long list of what has been stripped out and the tiny list of new additions:

     

    http://www.freeforum101.com/iworktipsntrick/viewforum.php?f=22&mforum=iworktipsn trick

     

    The "work arounds" are usually a long circuitious walk around to half baked, substitute "solutions", and you can not ignore the files that won't open, the damage to existing work and the incompatibilities of something that purports to be more compatible.

     

    Despite all the problems, we are doing nothing but plugging the holes in the dike. There are so many! With so many users flooding in here with their problems.

     

    Again how can you ignore the reality?

     

    Your work is not safe in Pages 5, especially Pages 5.1.

     

    Peter

  • by nimuay,

    nimuay nimuay Mar 24, 2014 2:49 PM in response to tokiofromanthem
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    Mar 24, 2014 2:49 PM in response to tokiofromanthem

    I, too, have lost every document in Pages 5.1. I'm on a MacBook Air, running 10.9.2.

     

    It was working fine on my last visit there, which was Feb. 17, 2014.  Now, no matter where I retrieve from, Pages will not open any of the stored files.  It shows in the dock, it will show all the document titles, but the second I double-click one, the little color wheel starts.  If I try any other way, it simply says Pages will not open.

     

    I'm pretty fed up.  I need those buggers, and Apple is giving me zero help to go on.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Mar 24, 2014 3:13 PM in response to nimuay
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    Mar 24, 2014 3:13 PM in response to nimuay

    Does Pages 5.1 itself open? ie You can create a new file?

     

    What if you start with the shift key held down?

     

    Peter

  • by nimuay,

    nimuay nimuay Mar 25, 2014 9:41 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Mar 25, 2014 9:41 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    It opens only in the sense that it appears in the nav bar, and if I hold the cursor down on its icon in the dock (which shows it as open) it will list the files. 

     

    Shift key does not do anything.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Mar 25, 2014 2:54 PM in response to nimuay
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    Mar 25, 2014 2:54 PM in response to nimuay

    What is the "nav bar"? Do you mean the Dock?

     

    What is in the Menubar (at the top of your screen) is more to the point and whether you can create a document.

     

    Holding down the shift key stops previous files auto-opening. It sounds like those previous files are damaged.

     

    …and Pages is opening fine and waiting for you to create another document.

     

    Be warned though that this is just one of many problems in Pages 5 which Apple stripped of over 100 features. It is bets avoided and for you to use alternative software such as Pages '09 or LibreOffice.

     

    Peter