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Q: 2010 macBook pro 15". Lagging and froze during last update.

Hi guys, 2 months ago I had my hinge replaced under warrenty because of a faulty glue joint. When I got the computer back I noticed a slight grinding in the body while runnung (hard drive?). It got better so I let it go, this morning I performed a software update and it froze during the validation process so I had to power off by holding the power button. I found a past tip that led me to find the folder with the update and I put the content of the folder in the trash. I did an update again and it said I was up to date.

I want to cure my lagging and freezing, need some help! as you can tell by my user name I am better with wood, not computers so please keep your recommendations in "newbie" terms. Thanks for your help!

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Feb 16, 2014 7:51 AM

by BobRz,Solvedanswer
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That should have gotten rid of most things, with the exception of the null disk, which I'm not familiar with. If no one else has a better idea, I'd say do a clean install. Like I said though, copy your drive to an  external or you'll lose everything. I have to head out for a bit, I'll check on you later.

Posted on Feb 16, 2014 11:17 AM

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  • by BobRz,

    BobRz BobRz Mar 3, 2014 4:45 PM in response to BobRz
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    Mar 3, 2014 4:45 PM in response to BobRz

    You can partition the external drive so that the photos and whatever sit on one partition and your copy sits on another with Disk Utility. But again... you really need to consider what happens when a drive fails. Take a look on these forums. It happens all the time.

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 4:53 PM in response to BobRz
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    Mar 3, 2014 4:53 PM in response to BobRz

    OK, I would like to partition my slim drive, can you talk me through this? I really do not have anything super important on my computer, I work with wood not computers so the rest doesn"t bother me. My photos are what my wife would KILL ME over.

  • by BobRz,

    BobRz BobRz Mar 3, 2014 4:57 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 4:57 PM in response to carpenter696

    I can talk you through this, but I've gotta tell you I'm reluctant to do it. If there's a problem you lose the photos and I'm responsible for your death and probably the next one on her hit list. Or you can run out to Best Buy and spend $80 for another drive and we can both live to be old men. I vote for the drive.

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 5:00 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:00 PM in response to carpenter696

    LOL, I think you are right, I will go get ANOTHER external hard drive! Question, when I erase the hard drive wold it be better for me to go Mountain Lion instead of Snow Leopard or is there not much of a difference?

  • by BobRz,

    BobRz BobRz Mar 3, 2014 5:02 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:02 PM in response to carpenter696

    You can go all the way to Mavericks if you want to. I'm running it on a mid-2010 right now. What are you running currently?

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 5:07 PM in response to BobRz
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:07 PM in response to BobRz

    Both computers are running snow leopard OS X 10.6.8. One of the geniuses at the store told me that my computer is not fast or strong enough to run Mavericks...true or false??

    If I want to perform all these tasks are you patient enough to talk me through it all??

  • by BobRz,

    BobRz BobRz Mar 3, 2014 5:15 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:15 PM in response to carpenter696

    I'm typing this on the same computer you're talking about, so I'd have to say the Genius needs a refresher course. The only difference is I've got an SSD, which makes the machine faster than the current version of classic MBP that they sell. I'm not sure how much RAM you have, but that's a fairly cheap upgrade. That said, there's nothing wrong with Snow Leopard and a lot of people prefer it over Mavericks. What I would do in your place is to clone your hard drive to an external with a new external hard drive and Carbon Copy Cloner. CCC isn't free, but it copies the Recovery partition, which you'll want in the future if you do decide to go past Snow Leopard. That way if you upgrade to Mavericks and hate it, it's very easy to go back to the Snow Leopard configuration.

     

    An SSD is a solid state drive, for background info. It has no moving parts, so it's waaaaay faster than a regular hard drive. The upgrade process is pretty simple, if that's something you want to consider. If you want to go that way, we're going to do something different on the external drive. Take a look at these and see if it's something that interests you.

     

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=C rucial+ssd

     

    And yes, I can take you through the steps. The only thing is time lag, like if you're ready to do it and I'm not here.

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 5:26 PM in response to BobRz
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:26 PM in response to BobRz

    Hardware Information:
        MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2.53GHz, Mid 2009)
        MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,4
        1 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores
        4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:
        NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

     

    System Software:
        Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549) - Uptime: 0 days 11:8:58

     

    Disk Information:
        FUJITSU MJA2250BH FFS G1 disk0 : (232.89 GB)
            (null) (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 200 MB
            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 232.57 GB (119.92 GB free)

     

        MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-868 

     

    USB Information:
        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

     

        Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

     

        Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

        Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

     

    FireWire Information:

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

     

    Kernel Extensions:

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons:
        [System]    org.samba.winbindd.plist 3rd-Party support link

     

    Problem System Launch Agents:

     

    Launch Daemons:

     

    Launch Agents:

     

    User Launch Agents:

     

    User Login Items:
        iTunesHelper
        Dropbox

     

    Internet Plug-ins:
        JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 13.9.8 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update
        FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 12.0.0.44 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link
        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.6.6
        Flash Player: Version: 12.0.0.44 - SDK 10.6 Outdated! Update
        GarminGpsControl: Version: 2.9.3.0 Release 3rd-Party support link
        Unity Web Player: Version: UnityPlayer version 4.3.1f1 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link
        iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0 - SDK 10.7

     

    User Internet Plug-ins:
        BrowserPlus_2.9.2: Version: 2.9.2 3rd-Party support link

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:
        BrowserPlus  3rd-Party support link
        Flash Player  3rd-Party support link

     

    Bad Fonts:
        None

     

    Old Applications:
        None

     

    Time Machine:
        Time Machine information requires OS X 10.7 "Lion" or later.

     

    Top Processes by CPU:
             3%    EtreCheck
             0%    WindowServer
             0%    Dropbox
             0%    mds
             0%    configd

     

    Top Processes by Memory:
        147 MB    mds
        139 MB    Dropbox
        78 MB    Finder
        53 MB    WindowServer
        33 MB    coreservicesd

     

    Virtual Memory Information:
        1.98 GB    Free RAM
        757 MB    Active RAM
        679 MB    Inactive RAM
        375 MB    Wired RAM
        678 MB    Page-ins
        520 KB    Page-outs

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 5:27 PM in response to BobRz
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:27 PM in response to BobRz

    I will trust you completely with your computer expertise. Can you please explain what the best option for me for my iPhoto library? What should I save it on, where should it go? I just did another entrecheck, here are the results.

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 5:31 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:31 PM in response to carpenter696

      Model Name:          MacBook Pro

      Model Identifier:          MacBookPro5,4

      Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo

      Processor Speed:          2.53 GHz

      Number Of Processors:          1

      Total Number Of Cores:          2

      L2 Cache:          3 MB

      Memory:          4 GB

      Bus Speed:          1.07 GHz

      Boot ROM Version:          MBP53.00AC.B03

      SMC Version (system):          1.49f2

      Serial Number (system):          W894794L7XJ

      Hardware UUID:          39DD6074-2EB1-5E90-90A7-E3E6DDFA881F

      Sudden Motion Sensor:

      State:          Enabled

  • by BobRz,

    BobRz BobRz Mar 3, 2014 5:34 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:34 PM in response to carpenter696

    You actually have a 2009 rather than a 2010, which is sorta good news. The 2010's were prone to a graphics card problem. What I'd do is to upgrade to 8GB of RAM and consider an SSD. That would make it feel like a new machine.

     

    As for your photos... at this moment I'd just leave them on the drive as you have them. Decide whether you want an SSD or not. If you don't, you get a second hard drive. By the time we're done, you'll have 2 external hard drives with 2 partitions on each. One will be for your photos and whatever, the other will be for backups. I know it seems excessive, but honestly, look at all the posts on here from people who are desperate because their hard drives have crashed, the external has failed, etc. If you have backups it's just an inconvenience. If you don't it's a disaster.

     

    The reason for deciding on the SSD... if you go that route, your current hard drive will end up becoming an external. You just replace it with an SSD and pop it into an enclosure like this:

     

    http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-2-5-Inch-Aluminum-Enclosure-EC-TB4P/dp/B005EIGUD4/ ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1393896824&sr=8-3&keywords=2.5+enclosure

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 5:36 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:36 PM in response to carpenter696

    What are the benefits of a SSD? You say it is for "background information", what does that mean?

  • by BobRz,

    BobRz BobRz Mar 3, 2014 5:42 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:42 PM in response to carpenter696

    I meant I was giving you background information on what it does. The big benefit to an SSD is speed. In a hard drive, the disk is constantly spinning and the read write head is moving back and forth over the disk to find the info it needs. In an SSD there are no mechanical parts. It's more like an extension of computer memory. As an example, it probably takes your Mac 2-3 minutes to boot. It takes mine maybe 25 seconds. Watch this for an idea.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX1Hrh88wpw

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 5:57 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 5:57 PM in response to carpenter696

    BobRz, completely off topic, but this freezing that I am getting with my computer is it really a hardware problem? When I had my hinge replacement they also needed to replace my airport card, is there any way that it is the airport card that is causing me my problems?

    OK, let me digest all you are trying to help me on here....

    1. I could simply get another external hard drive (~$100) end of story.

    2. I can get a SSD (how many GB?) for ~$130, and another external hard drive for $100.

    3. Upgrade my RAM to 8 GB, what does that go for $$ ??

     

    These upgrades, what can I do and what do I have to get done for me? Is it the RAM upgrade that someone has to do for me?

     

    Thanks for explaining this to me, it is for sure cheaper that buying a NEW Macbook pro. I know you do not have a crystal ball, but how many more years can I get off this Mac?

  • by carpenter696,

    carpenter696 carpenter696 Mar 3, 2014 6:10 PM in response to carpenter696
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    Mar 3, 2014 6:10 PM in response to carpenter696

    Explain this to me if you can...... now everything seems to be fine in my universe and my computer is not freezing anymore. Why in the world did it completely go bonkers twice now when I tried to do an upgrade. Both times my computer was not able to complete the upgrade and I had to force quit the computer by holding down the power button.

    Any suggestions?

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