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Q: Early 2008 24" 2.8 GHz iMac very slow using Mavericks - suggestions?

I was looking in Activity Monitor and came upon an option to run spindump.  What does spindump do?  I am using mavericks and have experienced a considerable slowdown in my Core 2 Duo 2.8GHz 24" iMac.  I'm using 1.88 of my 2 GB of ram with just Activity Monitor running.  Any suggestions how I can speed up my system.  I've tried to upgrade my memory - got Crucial 4GB kit which was suppoesed to be compatible.  I experienced a number of problems so I retyrned to Amazon.

 

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iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9.1)

Posted on Feb 16, 2014 9:56 AM

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  • by Kappy,Solvedanswer

    Kappy Kappy Feb 16, 2014 9:57 AM in response to Oldbiggy
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    Feb 16, 2014 9:57 AM in response to Oldbiggy

    Forget Spindump. It's for the programmers. You don't have enough RAM so that's the main reason your computer is slow. And, you are using a six year old computer.

     

    Things You Can Do To Resolve Slow Downs

     

    If your computer seems to be running slower here are some things you can do:

     

    Start with visits to:     OS X Maintenance - MacAttorney;

                                      The X Lab: The X-FAQs;

                                      The Safe Mac » Mac Performance Guide;

                                      The Safe Mac » The myth of the dirty Mac;

                                      Mac maintenance Quick Assist.

     

    Boot into Safe Mode then repair your hard drive and permissions:

     

    Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions Pre-Lion

     

    Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list.  In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive.  If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.

     

    Repair the Hard Drive - Lion/Mountain Lion/Mavericks

     

    Boot to the Recovery HD:

     

    Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the Utilites Menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD disk icon and click on the arrow button below.

     

    When the recovery menu appears select Disk Utility. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list.  In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive.  If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported, then click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the main menu. Select Restart from the Apple menu.

     

    Restart your computer normally and see if this has helped any. Next do some maintenance:

     

    For situations Disk Utility cannot handle the best third-party utility is Disk Warrior;  DW only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most disk problems are caused by directory corruption; Disk Warrior 4.x is now Intel Mac compatible.

     

    Note: Alsoft ships DW on a bootable DVD that will startup Macs running Snow Leopard or earlier. It cannot start Macs that came with Lion or later pre-installed, however, DW will work on those models.

     

    Suggestions for OS X Maintenance

     

    OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) If this isn't the case, then an excellent solution is to download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW PseudoAnacron, or Anacron that will automate the maintenance activity regardless of whether the computer is turned off or asleep.  Dependence upon third-party utilities to run the periodic maintenance scripts was significantly reduced since Tiger.  These utilities have limited or no functionality with Snow Leopard or later and should not be installed.

     

    OS X automatically defragments files less than 20 MBs in size, so unless you have a disk full of very large files there's little need for defragmenting the hard drive.

     

    Helpful Links Regarding Malware Protection

     

    An excellent link to read is Tom Reed's Mac Malware Guide.

    Also, visit The XLab FAQs and read Detecting and avoiding malware and spyware.

    See these Apple articles:

     

              Mac OS X Snow Leopard and malware detection

              OS X Lion- Protect your Mac from malware

              OS X Mountain Lion- Protect your Mac from malware

              About file quarantine in OS X

     

    If you require anti-virus protection I recommend using VirusBarrier Express 1.1.6 or Dr.Web Light both from the App Store. They're both free, and since they're from the App Store, they won't destabilize the system. (Thank you to Thomas Reed for these recommendations.)

     

    Troubleshooting Applications

     

    I recommend downloading a utility such as TinkerTool System, OnyX, Mavericks Cache Cleaner, or Cocktail that you can use for removing old log files and archives, clearing caches, etc. Corrupted cache, log, or temporary files can cause application or OS X crashes as well as kernel panics.

     

    If you have Snow Leopard or Leopard, then for similar repairs install the freeware utility Applejack.  If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to start in single-user mode from which you can run Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance routines from the command line.  Note that AppleJack 1.5 is required for Leopard. AppleJack 1.6 is compatible with Snow Leopard. Applejack does not work with Lion and later.

     

    Basic Backup

     

    For some people Time Machine will be more than adequate. Time Machine is part of OS X. There are two components:

     

    1. A Time Machine preferences panel as part of System Preferences;

    2. A Time Machine application located in the Applications folder. It is

        used to manage backups and to restore backups. Time Machine

        requires a backup drive that is at least twice the capacity of the

        drive being backed up.

     

    Alternatively, get an external drive at least equal in size to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can also make and maintain clones with good backup software. My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):

     

      1. Carbon Copy Cloner

      2. Get Backup

      3. Deja Vu

      4. SuperDuper!

      5. Synk Pro

      6. Tri-Backup

     

    Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on backup and restore.  Also read How to Back Up and Restore Your Files. For help with using Time Machine visit Pondini's Time Machine FAQ for help with all things Time Machine.

     

    Referenced software can be found at MacUpdate.

     

    Additional Hints

     

    Be sure you have an adequate amount of RAM installed for the number of applications you run concurrently. Be sure you leave a minimum of 10% of the hard drive's capacity as free space.

     

    Add more RAM. If your computer has less than 2 GBs of RAM and you are using OS X Leopard or later, then you can do with more RAM. Snow Leopard and Lion work much better with 4 GBs of RAM than their system minimums. The more concurrent applications you tend to use the more RAM you should have.

     

    Always maintain at least 15 GBs or 10% of your hard drive's capacity as free space, whichever is greater. OS X is frequently accessing your hard drive, so providing adequate free space will keep things from slowing down.

     

    Check for applications that may be hogging the CPU:

     

    Pre-Mavericks

     

    Open Activity Monitor in the Utilities folder.  Select All Processes from the Processes dropdown menu.  Click twice on the CPU% column header to display in descending order.  If you find a process using a large amount of CPU time (>=70,) then select the process and click on the Quit icon in the toolbar.  Click on the Force Quit button to kill the process.  See if that helps.  Be sure to note the name of the runaway process so you can track down the cause of the problem.

     

    Mavericks and later

     

    Open Activity Monitor in the Utilities folder.  Select All Processes from the View menu.  Click on the CPU tab in the toolbar. Click twice on the CPU% column header to display in descending order.  If you find a process using a large amount of CPU time (>=70,) then select the process and click on the Quit icon in the toolbar.  Click on the Force Quit button to kill the process.  See if that helps.  Be sure to note the name of the runaway process so you can track down the cause of the problem.

     

    Often this problem occurs because of a corrupted cache or preferences file or an attempt to write to a corrupted log file.

  • by den.thed,

    den.thed den.thed Feb 16, 2014 9:58 AM in response to Oldbiggy
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    Feb 16, 2014 9:58 AM in response to Oldbiggy

    Order RAM directly from OWC macsales.com or Crucial.com

     

    FWIW, I would order the 6GB kit from OWC instead of only 4GB.

  • by Oldbiggy,

    Oldbiggy Oldbiggy Feb 16, 2014 10:33 AM in response to Kappy
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    Feb 16, 2014 10:33 AM in response to Kappy

    Thanks, I'll try what you suggest. I have already repaired all processes.  Will advise of my progress.

  • by Oldbiggy,

    Oldbiggy Oldbiggy Feb 16, 2014 10:36 AM in response to den.thed
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    Feb 16, 2014 10:36 AM in response to den.thed

    I tried Crucial, but the alleged correct memory created many unusual problems.  I had to return it.  Is OWC good about compatibility issued with RAM?  6GB?? I thought 4GB was the max the early 2008 iMac could use.

  • by den.thed,

    den.thed den.thed Feb 16, 2014 11:14 AM in response to Oldbiggy
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    Feb 16, 2014 11:14 AM in response to Oldbiggy

    Oldbiggy wrote:

     

    Is OWC good about compatibility issued with RAM?  6GB?? I thought 4GB was the max the early 2008 iMac could use.

     

    Yes, plus OWC has tested the 6GB kit in that model.

  • by Oldbiggy,

    Oldbiggy Oldbiggy Feb 16, 2014 3:47 PM in response to den.thed
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    Feb 16, 2014 3:47 PM in response to den.thed

    Thanks, I may just spring for the 6 GB kit instead of the 4.

  • by Oldbiggy,

    Oldbiggy Oldbiggy Feb 19, 2014 8:45 AM in response to Kappy
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    Feb 19, 2014 8:45 AM in response to Kappy

    I followed your very thorough advice.  The first time I went through Recovery HD it indicated that the drive could not be repaired  and I should back up my files and transfer to a new drive.

     

    I performed a back up of critical files to a flash drive (I religiously insure my data is backed up on Time Machine).  Today, I decided to try the Recovery HD process again.  To my surprise, the disk was repaired and the OSX partition was good as well.

     

    I'll be adding 6GB of memory to my system to insure that I have sufficient memory for Mavericks.

     

    Thanks for the assistance.