Cameron148

Q: how do i tell if my mid 2009 macbook can run 8gb of ram

i own a mid 2009 white macbook.I am currently running 4GB of ram, but ever since i upgraded to OS X 10.9, its been running very slow, im aware of a firmware update that was released to fix the noisy optical drive, but it also allowed the late 2008 macbooks to run 8gb rather than 6gb.I need to know my macbook can support 8gb, how can i tell if i got the firmware update? Does it matter that my computer is a mid 2009? but more importantly, how can i know if my computer will support 8gb or not

MacBook, Mac OS 9.1.x, 4GB ram

Posted on Mar 1, 2014 10:40 PM

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  • by shldr2thewheel,

    shldr2thewheel shldr2thewheel Mar 1, 2014 10:42 PM in response to Cameron148
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    Mar 1, 2014 10:42 PM in response to Cameron148

    6gb of ram max

  • by K Shaffer,Solvedanswer

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Mar 1, 2014 11:15 PM in response to Cameron148
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    Mar 1, 2014 11:15 PM in response to Cameron148

    •MacBook  EFI Firmware Update 1.4:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/DL974

     

    if a mid-2009 macbook...

    Maximum Memory6.0 GB (Actual) 4.0 GB (Apple)
    Memory Slots2 - 200-pin PC2-6400 (800MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM

    ...according to http://mactracker.ca

     

    •MacBook: How to remove or install memory:

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1651

     

    (The late 2008 MacBook 13-inch, required a different EFI update.

    And that is model MB 4.1; not Aluminum MB 5.1 that uses max 8GB.)

     

    At this late a date, noises from a hard disk drive in such an old MB

    may be due to wear factors & a pending need to replace the drive.

    In addition to that idea check the running specs in the MB to see if the

    EFI update 1.4 was already applied at some point in the past.

     

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by Cameron148,

    Cameron148 Cameron148 Mar 1, 2014 11:11 PM in response to shldr2thewheel
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    Mar 1, 2014 11:11 PM in response to shldr2thewheel

    ok thank you

  • by shldr2thewheel,

    shldr2thewheel shldr2thewheel Mar 1, 2014 11:12 PM in response to Cameron148
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    Mar 1, 2014 11:12 PM in response to Cameron148

    you are welcome

  • by Jaco_Crash,

    Jaco_Crash Jaco_Crash Mar 18, 2014 8:45 PM in response to K Shaffer
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    Mar 18, 2014 8:45 PM in response to K Shaffer

    I'm confused by this.

     

    My partner has a Macbook Pro 5,5 (Mid 2009) and I put 8 GB in it and it appears to work.  A quick google check shows that there were two differnet models for Mid-2009, so maybe the one I stalled 8GB into takes 8GB rather than 6GB.

     

    For two different Mid-2009 models see here.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4132

     

    A digression:  But maybe I just put 8 GB in and it works?  But not recommended? I've read elsewhere, for example, that on my Mid-2011 15" MacBook Pro that you can put more RAM into it than Apple recommends.  I don't recall what the exact figure is, but I did come across a discussion of such when I was looking at updating the RAM on the other machine.

     

    Anyway, I came across this thread because I wanted to insure I had the most recent firmware installed on 13" Mid-2009 Macbook Pro 5,5 model.  Can someone confirm that the above data applies to both Mid-2009 Macbook Pros please?  (I need to insure firmware is updated to most recent because apparently it's recommended when you install bootcamp, which is what I'd like to do).  THANKS!

     

     

      Model Name:MacBook Pro
      Model Identifier:MacBookPro5,5
      Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo
      Processor Speed:2.26 GHz
      Number Of Processors:1
      Total Number Of Cores:2
      L2 Cache:3 MB
      Memory:8 GB
      Bus Speed:1.07 GHz
      Boot ROM Version:MBP55.00AC.B03
      SMC Version (system):1.47f2
      Serial Number (system):W80047XXXXXX
      Hardware UUID:6F1F7052-D11D-5AA4-A122-E6XXXXXXXXXX

      Sudden Motion Sensor:

      State:Enabled
  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Mar 18, 2014 10:17 PM in response to Jaco_Crash
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    Mar 18, 2014 10:17 PM in response to Jaco_Crash

    This topic thread was about a MacBook model, not a MacBook/Pro.

     

    So there is a difference between products. To verify you could

    look up details in several sources, including everymac.com,

    mactracker.ca (download), Apple Support, +indentify by serial nos.

     

    Also there are similar build numbers with different specs due to

    the display size + graphic processor (video RAM) etc.

     

    If you have a question about a MacBook/Pro, please consider there

    is a discussion area specific to that. The MacBook series itself has

    been discontinued as of July 2011 (Mid-2010) though both the Air

    and Pro models each have their own discussion area, & specs.

     

    To avoid confusion, is the reason for my

    reply, to an essentially answered thread.

     

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by Jaco_Crash,

    Jaco_Crash Jaco_Crash Mar 19, 2014 4:01 PM in response to K Shaffer
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    Mar 19, 2014 4:01 PM in response to K Shaffer

    Hi K Shaffer:  I'm so sorry!  Didn't notice this was just for the MacBook and not MacBook Pro!  Thanks for the the info and the links and I'm sorry to have posted in the wrong forum!

  • by Cameron148,

    Cameron148 Cameron148 Mar 21, 2014 11:11 PM in response to Cameron148
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    Mar 21, 2014 11:11 PM in response to Cameron148

    i would like to say that i have been able to successfully install 8gb ram on my mid 2009 A1181 macbook, however there seems to be a catch, it can only handle 667mhz rather than 800, and for some reason it will only read the memory from the website crucial. which sounds weird but my macbook is finally able to run 8gb

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Mar 22, 2014 1:56 AM in response to Cameron148
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    Mar 22, 2014 1:56 AM in response to Cameron148

    So I wonder what is really going on, to be that far off; if double-checked against

    the serial number lookup, plus MacTracker, everymac.com, & the Apple spec

    for the two MacBook5.2 model identifier numbers, (under Model A1181) since

    there are two EMC numbers, and a different order number for each.

     

    Anyway, you should be able to do some memtests and hardware tests to see if the

    computer really can use the RAM it says, & what the performance results relate to.

     

    Hopefully that works out for you.

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by josh_underupz14,

    josh_underupz14 josh_underupz14 Sep 9, 2016 7:59 PM in response to Cameron148
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    Sep 9, 2016 7:59 PM in response to Cameron148

    hi cameron. i know we are in 2016 now but can you provide more information on the performance of the computer and exactly what ram you got. also can you give your model identifier if you didnt already. thanks

  • by K Shaffer,

    K Shaffer K Shaffer Sep 10, 2016 12:33 PM in response to josh_underupz14
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    Sep 10, 2016 12:33 PM in response to josh_underupz14

    If your MacBook (13-inch Mid 2009) is further identified through

    this information; other than the build dates and processor speed

    of 2.13 GHz, Sales order number is an identifier that is different, too.

     

    MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2009) specs: from http://mactracker.ca app

    Introduced    May 2009

    Discontinued    October 2009

     

    Model Identifier    MacBook5,2

    Model Number    A1181

    EMC    2330

    • (Sales) Order Number    MC240LL/A


    •Processor    Intel Core 2 Duo (P7450) ("Penryn")

    Processor Speed    2.13 GHz

    Architecture    64-bit

     

    This model is said to be able to use 800MHz speed memory chips:

    Maximum Memory    6.0 GB (Actual) 4.0 GB (Apple)

    Memory Slots    2 - 200-pin PC2-6400 (800MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM

     

    The older build has different (sales) order number, different CPU speed,

    and different build dates. But has the same Model Number, EMC #, and

    also same Model Identifier (both Early + Mid 2009 13-inch MacBook.)

     

    So to detail this matter involves further study, that I've already done.

     

    However if you misidentify the computer by any important factor, the

    results vary; sometimes they can be useful & other times not so much.

     

    • MacBook (13-inch, Early 2009) : specs from mactracker.ca application

     

    Introduced    January 2009

    Discontinued    May 2009

     

    Model Identifier    MacBook5,2

    Model Number    A1181

    EMC    2300

    • (Sales) Order Number   MB881LL/A

     

    Maximum Memory    6.0 GB (Actual) 4.0 GB (Apple)

    Memory Slots    2 - 200-pin PC2-5300 (667MHz) DDR2 SO-DIMM

     

    •Processor    Intel Core 2 Duo (P7350) ("Penryn")

    Processor Speed    2.0 GHz

     

    You may be able to install two 4-GB 667MHz chips in the earlier model

    (Early 2009) and have them physically fit; they may even show up as 8GB

    total, but according to Apple specs, only 6GB would be functional. If you

    can test to see if there is actual gain in performance, by thorough tests.

     

    Clearly two different build machines, processor series, dates, etc.

     

    You can use a Lookup by Serial Number online service, or use the

    Apple support database articles on how to identify your MacBook.

    Either way should help; if you get the correct proper information to use.

     

    Mis-identification can lead to various mismatched parts. Some may be

    backward compatible (if researched, to learn which ones) while others

    not so much; or not at all. ~Like the guy who put incorrect chips in an

    older G4 portable and somehow toasted the logic board. Way different

    chips, where the pin count and alignment were incorrect. But they 'fit.'

     

    An earlier 'aluminum' 13-inch MacBook (Late 2008) uses faster speed

    RAM and it can use 8GB total, in 204-pin 1066MHz DDR3 SODIMM.

    Sometimes this model is mis-identified as a MacBook Pro.

     

    • Mac Serial Number Info - Lookup your Apple Serial Number:

    https://www.powerbookmedic.com/identify-mac-serial.php

     

    If the need to speed up these older machines is worth the upgrade path,

    an SSD would surely speed up the overall general functions.

     

    In any event...

    Good luck & happy computing!

  • by josh_underupz14,

    josh_underupz14 josh_underupz14 Sep 12, 2016 4:27 PM in response to K Shaffer
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    Sep 12, 2016 4:27 PM in response to K Shaffer

    Hi. Thanks for the quick response. Do you think it might be worth buying a 4 gb stick of ram. my machine has 2 1 gb sticks now so i could run 2 different sticks, 4 and 1= 5gb. If I did what cameron said in the future  and bought 2 4gb sticks at 667 mhz, i would already have one in there to offset the apparent cost. Also, do you think what he said is correct because i have found one other source that was definitely for the mid 2009 2.13 processor computer that said it worked. However, i cannot find it in my history anymore. i also might get an ssd in the future, but since im running el capitan on this old computer ram is more important. Thanks, Josh