logic pro x drummer fills

Yes, I do, but you can't stop that from happening on the Drummer track itself.

So:

Create a software instrument track under your Drummer track.

In the mixer, alt-drag (=copy) over the Drum Kit designer from the Drummer track to the new track, do the same with any insert plugins.

In arrange, drag the region with the crash to the new SI track. It immediately converts to MIDI, which you can now edit.

You have to leave the region there, because edits get undone if you convert it back to a Drummer region.

Please do not rant at me, I'm just a user like you, and you are now talking to me, not to Apple. Apple doesn't read these discussions.

And lots of drummers end a fill with a crash hit on the 1st of the next measure, in fact, at those rare moments that Drummer (or a drummer) does NOT do this (because it/he/she doesn't do this all the time, in spite of your claim) it actually sounds "missing".

And converting to MIDI does not 'disable' Drummer.

Also your example of synth adding extra notes is invalid: with Drummer it is not the instrument (DKD) that 'creates' the notes, it is a MIDIpattern library algorythm, the sole purpose of which is... to create notes!

To remove the symbol crash, click the drum kit icon under the drummer's head icon. That will open up the editor where under "Mix" you can deselect the "Cymbals & FX".

Hi

dan2642 wrote:

To remove the symbol crash, click the drum kit icon under the drummer's head icon. That will open up the editor where under "Mix" you can deselect the "Cymbals & FX".

Care to post a screenshot of that?

CCT

Hi

Ah.. with Drum Machine Designer, Yes, but Drum Kit Designer No.

CCT

There is a sort of a rough workaround which i have used in the past to get around this issue... It works these days thanks to the change in 10.1 which allows you to have more than one Drummer Track per Project which you couldn't easily do in prior versions of LPX without resorting to some odd working methods

1) Load up two drummer tracks with identical settings

2) Drummer 1 turn off fills (Set all the way over to the left and click on fill's lock)

3) Drummer 2 turn on fills...

4) Use automation at start of pattern to unmute Drummer 1 and mute Drummer 2

4) Use automation one bar in (or whenever you wish... ) to mute drummer 1 and at same time unmute Drummer 2

So long as you make the same drummer settings for each Drummer track.. you can now get rid of unneeded crash cymbals at the start of a pattern but retain other drummer functionality.... without it being noticeable...

You can use the same trick to accomplish all kinds of little tricks with drummer.. like layering patterns, switching back to no fills at any point in a track.... changing to HHs instead of Cyms at odd points in the pattern...and so on...

Here's an example screenshot with automation...

The other method idea i had involved the use of the producer+ kits and their individual channels..but unfortunately Logic just used overhead and room mics to record the cymbals so you cannot easily mute / unmute / volume automate those without it sticking out in the mix...

You can also automate a smart control for cymbols on/off. Works with producer kits or regular, no artifacts in overheads or room. No need to even open smart controls, just look under the listing in the automation menu.

Notice how I had to set it a little early.

That's a neat little trick seeren....

Thank you for sharing that one...

Going to play with it now 🙂

<...and a few mins later....>

That works great and is much simpler than the crazy workaround I suggested.....

Good call!!!

Reminder to self.. Play around some more with Smart Controls Automation in the future

Cheers..

Nigel

Glad you liked it!

Just convert drummer region to midi and do what you want, it can stay on drummer track, no need to copy it !

Here is another (not very practical 😁 ) workaround how to elimiate a Crash Cymbal, or any drum note from the Drummer Pattern.

Please note that this is just of limited use and more for a theoretical understanding about the Drummer itself.

The Drummer Region was always this mysterious thing that was created by the parameters of the Drummer Editor and only if you drag that Region to a MIDI Tack, then you could see the actual MIDI Events that were created by the Drummer Region. Now, with the introduction of the new "Region Automation" in v10.1, Logic handed you the key to "open" the Drummer Regions (and edit them). Here are the steps:

1. Display the Automation
2. Set the Drummer Region to Region Automation
3. Create an Automation Control Point on the Drummer Region
4. Open the Event List
5. Clicking on the Automation Control Point will open the Drummer Region in the Event List to display the Fader Event of this Automation Control Point
6. In addition to the Fader Events, the Event List displays all the MIDI Events that are created by the Drummer Region. In this screenshot, the Crash Cymbal is the note A2. I set its velocity to 1, and voila, you can't hear the crash cymbal anymore. You could also delete the event (doesn't work all the time)

The major downside of this "workaround" is that whenever you change the parameter for that Drummer Region in the Drummer Editor, the MIDI Events are updated and your "manual edits" are overwritten.

At least, you can use this trick to see how changing a parameter in the Drummer Region changing the actual MIDI Events. For example, change the "Feel" dial, and you can see instantly how many ticks specific MIDI Notes are moved out of their quantized timing position.

Hope that helps

Edgar Rothermich

http://DingDingMusic.com/Manuals/

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That's a neat little trick too...

Thanks Edgar as always!

Cheers..

Nigel