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Wiping/renovating/refreshing an old, slow A1304

A friend of mine gave me an old A1304 (late 2008 Macbook Air) that was running rather sluggishly. Like, click-the-apple-logo-on-the-bar-at-the-top-of-a-screen-and-wait-fifteen-minutes- for-anything-to-happen slow.


According to the system specs it's got a 1.86 GHz Core 2 Duo and 2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 RAM to work off of. I have relatively little experience working with OS X, so my first thought (after backing up all her data) was to just wipe it and install the lastest copy of OSXM on it. However I realized it's running OS X Lion, and I don't have a copy of Lion sitting around, and I'm not sure if she remembers her Apple ID and password.


If I can get her to sign in and authorize a wipe/reinstall of Lion then I think things will improve, but I really have no idea what's causing the slowdown. It's intermittent, sometimes the laptop decides to run just normal and sometimes it decides to run like a sloth.


At any rate, if reinstalling Lion doesn't fix things, I'm going to try and see if I can get it associated with my account instead of hers, then put OSXM on it and see if that helps at all... if not I'll be completely lost, but at least I have the computer to keep.


If anyone has any idea where I could find help or resources on this sort of thing, or even just personal experience wiping an old mac and resetting it to factory default, that would be highly useful here! Thanks 🙂


Edit: Checking for New Software just hangs and it ends up going nowhere.

Posted on Mar 7, 2014 12:56 AM

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Mar 7, 2014 1:20 AM in response to Stryker295

You may have to acquire an external USB optical drive such as the

model had as an option when it was new. However the original has

been replaced by a later model, for all Macs without superdrives.


The $79 Apple USB Superdrive would work to install the original DVD

media or replacement of the system software as shipped; this may be

available from AppleCare or Apple Sales support, for a fee. A serial

number and model number would likely be required to match them.


The computer could likely use a retail OS X 10.6.x installer on DVD

if you had the USB SuperDrive or suitable similar product to use it.

With that, the Mac App Store, App Store, and iTunes Store, etc are

available once the computer is able to run OS X 10.6.8 fully installed

and updated through Software Updates. (Then it can see Mac Apps.)


The Lion OS X 10.7.5 is not that much of a prize, but it may run

better given the limited and not upgradable hardware in the MB/Air.

Mavericks is a stretch, even with an SSD flash drive. And no RAM

upgrade path open to it. The unit is at its max in hardware already.


So the USB optical superdrive, and an OS X 10.6 retail DVD are

preliminary suggestions; then look for the same vintage iLife to

match Snow Leopard. (iLife 08 would have been included with

this computer's original Leopard OS X 10.5.5 grey-label discs.)


Anyway, that seems to be about it, at 12:20AM...

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Mar 7, 2014 4:40 PM in response to Stryker295

UPDATE:


It seems something is corrupted.


We changed the password to something more manageable, and while on that screen we noticed that despite being logged in as an admin, we were unable to make or remove any accounts. We ignored that and moved on, went to restart the computer, and it auto-logged in as usual. I logged out and tried to log back in, but it's looping to a grey screen and then back to the login. I know the password is correct, but whenever something needs the password and I enter it, either a) nothing happens, or b) I get a "This operation can't be completed because an unexpected error occurred (error code 100022)"... Argh. Any where I can look up this code?

Mar 7, 2014 4:54 PM in response to Stryker295

Other users with Lion installed had a similar code and issue, there are a few items in this discussion that may be of help. Some others probably won't be so much.


error code 100022

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3674970


One of the successful solutions was to reinstall the system completely.


Not sure if this helps.

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Mar 22, 2014 11:36 PM in response to Stryker295

If the computer shipped with a backup or install DVD or flash USB drive

with Lion 10.7 for that computer on it, then that would be the tool to use.


If the computer shipped with an OS X 10.5.x or 10.6 system on DVD,

and the intended method was for the original purchaser to get an

Apple USB superdrive for MacBook Air, (as Apple had one for it) that

disk and a means to install it would be required.


There is another way if you have a computer that has an optical drive

and the MB/Air can sometimes use that other computer + disc drive.


•MacBook Air (Late-2008 and Mid-2009)

How to 'Erase & Install' using Remote Install Mac OS X:

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3263


If Lion were installed from the internet or an upgrade via the Mac App Store

and If the person installing it chose to make Lion install a Recovery Partition

or Recovery HD on the MacBook/Air hard disk drive, then you may be able to

boot the computer from it; restart with the Command and R keys held down.


You may have to call AppleSupport or AppleCare and ask if you can get a

replacement original system media; if the computer shipped with Lion, then

the device may have been a Flash USB key or boot copy on thumbdrive.

Or it may have had a DVD of the original system, if OS X 10.6 or before.


{While Apple Support OS X info says your MacBook Air model will be able

to run Mavericks OS X 10.9.2, the lack of system resources could make it

slow and balk at running applications or multi-tasking; & it can't see any

hardware upgrades. It is stuck at 2GB RAM, & limited HDD/SDD space.}


For a conversation with Apple directly (online or main phone support) you

would have to provide the MacBook/Air serial number and model identifier.

A replacement would cost a fee, and availability may vary depending on

the actual system media your computer used.


If the computer shipped with an OS X 10.5 Leopard system on backup DVD

you could instead get a retail Snow Leopard DVD; a better base system to

start over with.


Should you have made a good backup method to save your work, and also

an external enclosed hard disk drive to use to restore a working system, then

you would be hours ahead. A quality externally enclosed hard drive can be

used to house a bootable full system clone; a working backup. Preventative.


You may not be able to get a copy of Lion, if the computer did not ship with it

and if there is no Recovery partition or Recovery HD in the MB/Air; you can't

even download it from Internet Recovery, from what I've heard lately. However

given the other issues you say this computer has, the first thing to do would be

to try and save anything off the computer, because any effort now would likely

require the OS X and all drive content (SSD or HDD) to be erased or lost.


If you have access to an Apple Store within some driving distance, you should

see if they have a Genius bar, and schedule an appointment with them in

regard to these issues your MacBook/Air has going on. If there is no Apple Store

(official) you may have to consider paying a specialist independent Apple service

technician at a reseller location to do whatever tech work, save your files to an

external drive, and attempt to install a new system; at a service charge to you.

Some resellers or specialists may have a retail Snow Leopard 10.6 DVD on hand,

while some could install a test system after they'd restored basic function, and

then your totally wiped MacBook would be running clean install. Without DVDs.


So most of this would require you to be ready for the eventuality of needing to

reinstall or perform major system maintenance, ahead of the need; lacking that,

you will have to search out hands-on help, who has the correct software options.

And also one who can do a proper diagnostic to check for other damages, etc.


I've looked around a bit, to see there is a somewhat similar 'restore macbook air'

discussion from these ASC pages, that rounds out what someone suggested an

other owner to try... https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4974418?answerId=21800543022#21800543022


The method you tried to change the Admin password may have caused issues;

so that did not really help address the first (or second, third) set of troubles.


•MacBook Air (mid 2009, late 2008, or original)

Reinstalling applications, reset password, and

using Disk Utility, using the MacBook Air SuperDrive:

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2735


There are OS X Utilities on the Recovery; Disk Utility, and other tools.

If you had an external enclosed HDD, you could get it ready to be used

as a backup, and see about using Carbon Copy Cloner to make a copy

(clone) on it. This is best done well ahead of emergency to learn how.


Well, I suggest you contact an expert, a specialist, or see if a Store genius

appointment could be made to help you get this MB/Air through this time.

Or if you know of an Apple User group in your area, someone may be able

to figure out the best way to get your MB/Air to work correctly again. The

unit should be tested, diagnostics are free at US & Canada Apple Stores.


Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Mar 22, 2014 11:59 PM in response to K Shaffer

We have no SuperDrive, the computer shipped with no thumb drive or disc as far as we know... Something is corrupted on the main OS apparently so we can't install anything at all normally. Currently we're trying to go in through the Recovery mode and use Terminal to run the Lion installer, but when we attempt that we get the No Entry icon after the Apple icon and we haven't figured out a way to diagnose why it's doing that. The Mavericks installer is downloading so we can try that but I don't know if we can install that and completely wipe the drive.... Updates will follow tomorrow hopefully.

Mar 23, 2014 11:43 AM in response to Stryker295

Part of the trouble may relate to not using Recovery to reset

the Admin Password; to give it a new name, etc. correctly.


Without a working Recovery or a system DVD + optical drive,

the idea of resetting the Admin password in Terminal is possible

but to re-install OS X from Recovery may be perilous.


A second available computer with an optical drive*, may be used

if you were to obtain the retail Snow Leopard 10.6 install DVD

from Apple, some stores have it; also online, for about $20...


•Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard - Apple Store (US) - on DVD

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard



•MacBook Air (Late-2008 and Mid-2009)

*How to 'Erase & Install' using Remote Install Mac OS X:

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3263


•Apple USB Superdrive - Apple Store (US)

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD564ZM/A/apple-usb-superdrive



•Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6 - Support pages:

https://www.apple.com/support/snowleopard/installation/


OS X 10.6 promises to run better on an older MB/Air than Mavericks

given the lack of system resources in that model & no upgrade path

to give it more RAM or more storage drive capacity. 10.9.2 needs both.


Does that model have the smaller 128GB SSD, or a hard disk drive?

One with SSD was an option, at more initial cost than HDD version.


•Apple - Support - OS X - Upgrade:

https://www.apple.com/support/osx/upgrade/


Mavericks would need space in the MacBook/Air hard drive or SSD

or be able to use the storage capacity now occupied by Lion, etc.

The OS X Utilities, if you access them in Recovery mode, could be

able to erase the OS X section and then reinstall Lion, if its there.


Never heard of using Terminal in Recovery to reinstall an OS X.

Maybe someone who has major experience there will reply to that...


Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Mar 23, 2014 2:40 PM in response to Stryker295

Update: we don't have any optical drives apparently and the owner of the laptop does not want to buy the operating system or buy an optical drive just to get it working. He found some instructions "on TechRadar" on how to install Mavericks from an external drive and we ran through those steps but we're still getting the No Entry logo when we attempt that.... He can't think of anything else to do at this point.

Mar 23, 2014 3:28 PM in response to Stryker295

Did you read the article about using a Windows PC with an optical

drive, as an optical drive for this MacBook Air? With any of the

correct tools, the task is even easier. A cheaper LG USB DVD drive

that can record & play, may be able to work, instead of a $79 Apple.


Anyway, I think the paths discussed would've worked, if not for that

trying to change the Admin password/name and the Terminal event.


A total erase and reinstall, of a different system, is advised; and

is what I'd do. It may take a few days (or a week+ if here) to get

the retail 10.6 DVD for $20. and a USB Superdrive for up to $79.


Usually an upgrade from Lion to Mavericks requires an Apple ID.

And I'd send it back to Snow Leopard 10.6(.8) for the duration.


Hopefully someone else can see this and get some ideas.

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Wiping/renovating/refreshing an old, slow A1304

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