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Q: Mavericks, running out of application memory

When is Apple going to fix this, lot of complaints!

Posted on Mar 15, 2014 9:41 AM

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Q: Mavericks, running out of application memory

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  • by darryl-1,

    darryl-1 darryl-1 Apr 19, 2014 9:56 AM in response to Eric Root
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    Apr 19, 2014 9:56 AM in response to Eric Root

    I stoped Kaperski, & Firefox did not seem to help. These are all great ideas but no time to do it. The last time it slowed I tryed to do etrecheck but it froze. It does look like web content Safari is 900 mg at the time of slow dow or freeze, and Foxfire was the same the at freeze web content high. 

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Apr 25, 2014 2:32 PM in response to darryl-1
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    Apr 25, 2014 2:32 PM in response to darryl-1

    Stopping Kapersky may not be enough, it has many background jobs that can modify how the OS behaves. Are you certain ALL of it's tasks & kernel extensions were unloaded (a reboot may have been needed).

     

    You only need to run an EtreCheck report when the Mac has booted & logged in to your user account - all the background tasks will then appear in a report, the old one should still be relevant assuming you haven't added extra apps.

     

    Safari will use RAM when busy, using RAM doesn't necesarily slow a system down.

     

    If you are not going to follow the advice given you won't get much benefit from the answers posted here, sorry it takes time to remove lots of installed junk as I tried to highlight for you in the other thread…

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/25393570#25393570%2325393570

     

    There is a lot of red in that report that needs to be updated or removed. Frankly you may take less time to erase & reinstall everything… good luck.

  • by darryl-1,

    darryl-1 darryl-1 Apr 26, 2014 12:04 PM in response to Drew Reece
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    Apr 26, 2014 12:04 PM in response to Drew Reece

    I ran clean my mac 2 in an effort to resolve the problem. It did help, but I think the way Mavericks handles internet is the issue. I am using Safari so you will note the safari web content, mind you there wewe only 2 tabs open or used? I am just trying to do low level fixing but web content just seem to build the longer the system is operating!Screen Shot 2014-04-26 at 11.47.56 AM.png

  • by dianeoforegon,

    dianeoforegon dianeoforegon Apr 26, 2014 4:39 PM in response to darryl-1
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    Apr 26, 2014 4:39 PM in response to darryl-1

    Clean My Mac is not recommended. Here are some comments from other discussions regarding Clean My Mac and  other applications like MacKeeper

     

    CleanMyMac and other 'cleaning' apps are very dangerous to use and using them you may experience system/application faults that would otherwise be problem-free.

    You don't need "cleaner" or "maintenance" apps to keep your Mac running well, and some of these apps can do more harm than good. Most only remove files/folders or unused languages or architectures, which does nothing more than free up some drive space, with the risk of deleting something important in the process.

  • by tf245yay,Helpful

    tf245yay tf245yay Apr 26, 2014 5:21 PM in response to darryl-1
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    Apr 26, 2014 5:21 PM in response to darryl-1

    There could be a program on your computer that's taking up a lot of memory, I would check the Activity Monitor first.

     

    If that doesn't work, try clearing some memory via Memory Clean (dl here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/memory-clean/id451444120?mt=12)

  • by darryl-1,

    darryl-1 darryl-1 May 20, 2014 9:41 AM in response to tf245yay
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    May 20, 2014 9:41 AM in response to tf245yay

    That Memory Clean seems like something that should have been built into Mavericks! I would suggest everyone should get this free app! Thanks so much for the info!

  • by Allan Eckert,

    Allan Eckert Allan Eckert May 20, 2014 1:00 PM in response to darryl-1
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    May 20, 2014 1:00 PM in response to darryl-1

    Memory Clean is contradictory to way that Mavericks manages memory which might be why it is not part of it.

  • by darryl-1,

    darryl-1 darryl-1 May 25, 2014 9:04 AM in response to Allan Eckert
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    May 25, 2014 9:04 AM in response to Allan Eckert

    Memory Clean does the job at least untill Mavericks get fixed, Steve send them a message! As I go about doing work I see the memory going down, then cleaner starts up and I get several gigs back and the process repeats!

  • by Allan Eckert,

    Allan Eckert Allan Eckert May 25, 2014 10:00 AM in response to darryl-1
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    May 25, 2014 10:00 AM in response to darryl-1

    Memory Clean basically defeats what Apple is attempting to do with the memory management of Marvericks. But if that is what you want then keep at it.

     

    Allan

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece May 25, 2014 1:29 PM in response to darryl-1
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    May 25, 2014 1:29 PM in response to darryl-1

    darryl-1 wrote:

     

    I ran clean my mac 2 in an effort to resolve the problem. It did help, but I think the way Mavericks handles internet is the issue. I am using Safari so you will note the safari web content, mind you there wewe only 2 tabs open or used? I am just trying to do low level fixing but web content just seem to build the longer the system is operating!Screen Shot 2014-04-26 at 11.47.56 AM.png

    Take a look at the bottom of the graph, the Swap Used is 0 bytes (like most of your screenshots). That means the OS has not needed to use the disk for any memory storage  - the RAM is fine.

     

    Safari will isolate every webpage in it's own sandbox - it is normal to have many Safari processes when Safari is running. You should see Safari release RAM when you quit it or close tabs. It will however cache some data in RAM because that means the OS is faster for content you view often. If another process needs the RAM Safari will release it (so Safari will just reload the pages later).

     

    There is still 2 Kapsersky processes running in that list -  we are quite serious when we tell you to remove it. Antivirus & 'Security' software needs to read every file on the OS to see if it is dangerous. If that software is out of date or not tested on 10.9 you can't expect the OS to work well.

     

    CleanMyMac is equally dubious - cleaning system caches & additional language files can damage the OS.

    Disable ALL of it's tasks if you only want to use it to delete old apps (which is isn't great at either).

     

    Have you done any of the cleanup that as mentioned almost 2 months ago at …

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/25393570#25393570

     

    I'm at a lost for ways to help you, you keep chasing red herrings, hijack other threads & don't accept advice…

     

    The best advice I have for you is backup to an external disk, erase the Mac Reinstall 10.9 & don't install this software & then you can complain about how it is all the fault of 10.9.

     

     

    [Heres a hint from the other thread]

     

    Drew Reece wrote:


    Kernel Extensions:

              com.kaspersky.kext.klif          (3.0.2d39)

              com.kaspersky.nke          (1.6.2d112)

              com.quark.driver.Tether64          (1.1.0d3 - SDK 10.6)

              foo.tap          (1.0)

              com.kaspersky.kext.kimul.44          (44)

              com.parallels.virtualsound          (1.0 18)

     

    Startup Items: (discontinued by Apple since Mac OS 10.4 !)

              tap: Path: /Library/StartupItems/tap

              tun: Path: /Library/StartupItems/tun

     

  • by sberman,

    sberman sberman May 25, 2014 1:46 PM in response to darryl-1
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    May 25, 2014 1:46 PM in response to darryl-1

    For what it's worth, I think Allan and Drew have provided you with excellent advice over the past few posts.

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