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Hard drive comparison: LaCie Porsche Design P'9230 vs P'9233

I'm planning on getting a new MacBook Air soon and would like to get a new backup drive at the same time. I'm considering a LaCie Porsche Design drive and am a little confused by the difference between two models. According to the LaCie site, the P'9233, item #9000385, 4TB is "Designed for Mac" and Time Machine compatible. And the P'9230, item #9000384, 4TB is Mac OS X compatible, but the page does not indicate if it is Time Machine compatible. Is there any reason why it wouldn't be? What exactly is the difference between these two drives?


I've emailed this question to LaCie and am waiting for their reply. In the meantime I figured I'd check here to see if anyone has any personal insight.

Posted on Mar 15, 2014 11:56 AM

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Posted on Mar 15, 2014 1:24 PM


licoricepizza wrote:

"Designed for Mac" and Time Machine compatible.


No such thing, thats just fluff and nonsense on the box / advertising. You can buy any HD for use with Time Machine (however avoid WD consumer grade HD for quality reasons).



Lacie does NOT make HD, its a Seagate inside there.


there are only 4 HD mfg. on earth. Toshiba, Hitachi, Seagate, WD



Do NOT buy 4TB drives, they're still currently 'too" unreliable.

Make it 3TB max



ALL HD are Mac compatible, anyone who says otherwise is lying to you. All HD are just bricks, you can format them for PC or Mac etc.


Any HD in a store that says "PC HD", or "Mac HD", thats just advertising nonsense and fluff, you can format any of them for anything.



There is NO SUCH thing as a Porsche or Lacie hard drive 😉


they both contain Seagate drives. Porche and Lacie are just names on the box, nothing more.




huge storage, low cost, high quality, very small and portable.


BEST FOR THE COST, Toshiba "tiny giant" 15mm thick 2TB drive (have several of them, lots of storage in tiny package) $100

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Connect-Portable-HDTC720XK3C1/dp/B00CGUMS48 /ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1390020791&sr=8-3&keywords=toshiba+2tb




best options for the price, and high quality HD:

Quality 1TB drives are $50 per TB on 3.5" or $65 per TB on 2.5"


Perfect 1TB for $68

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Portable-Hard-Drive/dp/B005J7YA3W/ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379452568&sr=8-1&keywords=1tb+toshiba


Nice 500gig for $50. ultraslim perfect for use with a notebook

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Portable-External-Drive/dp/B009F1CXI2/ref=s r_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377642728&sr=1-1&keywords=toshiba+slim+500gb





*This one is the BEST portable external HD available that money can buy:
HGST Touro Mobile 1TB USB 3.0 External Hard Drive $88

http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Mobile-Portable-External-0S03559/dp/B009GE6JI8/ref=sr _1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383238934&sr=8-1&keywords=HGST+Touro+Mobile+Pro+1TB+USB+3.0+7 2 00+RPM


Most storage experts agree on the Hitachi 2.5"


Hitachi is the winner in hard drive reliability survey:

Hitachi manufacturers the safest and most reliable hard drives, according to the Storelab study. Of the hundreds of Hitachi hard drives received, not a single one had failed due to manufacturing or design errors. Adding the highest average lifespans and the best relationship between failures and market share, Hitachi can be regarded as the winner.



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licoricepizza wrote:


I'm planning on getting a new MacBook Air soon and would like to get a new backup drive


Never buy just ONE ext. HD, that's always a recipe for disaster.



Data redundancy begins at...


1. All data on the computer is just that, your data.

2. All data on the first external HD is your backup.

3. Only the second external HD is your first safe data redundancy.


Protected data redundancy begins at the second external copy due to:


1. It not being connected. Any drive connected, backup or otherwise, is not to be considered a safe data redundancy.

2. Being the backup failsafe to the first external HD, not to the data on the computer which never should be counted in terms of data protection as "a copy".

3. External drives will invariably fail, and since most people falsely believe their external HD is their "safety", this error of perspective must be countered by yet another external copy of ones data.


Ones vital data must always be considered wholly independent and irrelevant of any data on the computer itself. Failure to look at one data in this matter is a failure which often can and does culminate in data loss.



Always presume correctly that your data is priceless and takes a very long time to create and often is irreplaceable. Always presume accurately that hard drives are extremely cheap, and you have no excuse not to have multiple redundant copies of your data copied on hard drives and squirreled away several places, lockboxes, safes, fireboxes, offsite and otherwise.


Hard drives aren't prone to failure…hard drives are guaranteed to fail (the very same is true of SSD). Hard drives dont die when aged, hard drives die at any age, and peak in death when young and slowly increase in risk as they age.


Never practice at any time for any reason the false premise and unreal sense of security in thinking your data is safe on any single external hard drive. This is never the case and has proven to be the single most common horrible tragedy of data loss that exists.


Many 100s of millions of hours of lost work and data are lost each year due to this single common false security. This is an unnatural disaster that can avoid by making all data redundant and then redundant again. If you let a $60 additional redundant hard drive and 3 hours of copying stand between you and years of work, then you've made a fundamental mistake countless 1000s of people each year have come to regret.


Many countless people think they're safe and doing well having a single external backup of their vital data they worked months, years, and sometimes decades on. Nothing could be further from the truth. Never let yourself be in situation of having a single external copy of your precious data.

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licoricepizza wrote:

"Designed for Mac" and Time Machine compatible.


No such thing, thats just fluff and nonsense on the box / advertising. You can buy any HD for use with Time Machine (however avoid WD consumer grade HD for quality reasons).



Lacie does NOT make HD, its a Seagate inside there.


there are only 4 HD mfg. on earth. Toshiba, Hitachi, Seagate, WD



Do NOT buy 4TB drives, they're still currently 'too" unreliable.

Make it 3TB max



ALL HD are Mac compatible, anyone who says otherwise is lying to you. All HD are just bricks, you can format them for PC or Mac etc.


Any HD in a store that says "PC HD", or "Mac HD", thats just advertising nonsense and fluff, you can format any of them for anything.



There is NO SUCH thing as a Porsche or Lacie hard drive 😉


they both contain Seagate drives. Porche and Lacie are just names on the box, nothing more.




huge storage, low cost, high quality, very small and portable.


BEST FOR THE COST, Toshiba "tiny giant" 15mm thick 2TB drive (have several of them, lots of storage in tiny package) $100

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Connect-Portable-HDTC720XK3C1/dp/B00CGUMS48 /ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1390020791&sr=8-3&keywords=toshiba+2tb




best options for the price, and high quality HD:

Quality 1TB drives are $50 per TB on 3.5" or $65 per TB on 2.5"


Perfect 1TB for $68

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Portable-Hard-Drive/dp/B005J7YA3W/ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379452568&sr=8-1&keywords=1tb+toshiba


Nice 500gig for $50. ultraslim perfect for use with a notebook

http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvio-Portable-External-Drive/dp/B009F1CXI2/ref=s r_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377642728&sr=1-1&keywords=toshiba+slim+500gb





*This one is the BEST portable external HD available that money can buy:
HGST Touro Mobile 1TB USB 3.0 External Hard Drive $88

http://www.amazon.com/HGST-Mobile-Portable-External-0S03559/dp/B009GE6JI8/ref=sr _1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383238934&sr=8-1&keywords=HGST+Touro+Mobile+Pro+1TB+USB+3.0+7 2 00+RPM


Most storage experts agree on the Hitachi 2.5"


Hitachi is the winner in hard drive reliability survey:

Hitachi manufacturers the safest and most reliable hard drives, according to the Storelab study. Of the hundreds of Hitachi hard drives received, not a single one had failed due to manufacturing or design errors. Adding the highest average lifespans and the best relationship between failures and market share, Hitachi can be regarded as the winner.



User uploaded file

User uploaded file






licoricepizza wrote:


I'm planning on getting a new MacBook Air soon and would like to get a new backup drive


Never buy just ONE ext. HD, that's always a recipe for disaster.



Data redundancy begins at...


1. All data on the computer is just that, your data.

2. All data on the first external HD is your backup.

3. Only the second external HD is your first safe data redundancy.


Protected data redundancy begins at the second external copy due to:


1. It not being connected. Any drive connected, backup or otherwise, is not to be considered a safe data redundancy.

2. Being the backup failsafe to the first external HD, not to the data on the computer which never should be counted in terms of data protection as "a copy".

3. External drives will invariably fail, and since most people falsely believe their external HD is their "safety", this error of perspective must be countered by yet another external copy of ones data.


Ones vital data must always be considered wholly independent and irrelevant of any data on the computer itself. Failure to look at one data in this matter is a failure which often can and does culminate in data loss.



Always presume correctly that your data is priceless and takes a very long time to create and often is irreplaceable. Always presume accurately that hard drives are extremely cheap, and you have no excuse not to have multiple redundant copies of your data copied on hard drives and squirreled away several places, lockboxes, safes, fireboxes, offsite and otherwise.


Hard drives aren't prone to failure…hard drives are guaranteed to fail (the very same is true of SSD). Hard drives dont die when aged, hard drives die at any age, and peak in death when young and slowly increase in risk as they age.


Never practice at any time for any reason the false premise and unreal sense of security in thinking your data is safe on any single external hard drive. This is never the case and has proven to be the single most common horrible tragedy of data loss that exists.


Many 100s of millions of hours of lost work and data are lost each year due to this single common false security. This is an unnatural disaster that can avoid by making all data redundant and then redundant again. If you let a $60 additional redundant hard drive and 3 hours of copying stand between you and years of work, then you've made a fundamental mistake countless 1000s of people each year have come to regret.


Many countless people think they're safe and doing well having a single external backup of their vital data they worked months, years, and sometimes decades on. Nothing could be further from the truth. Never let yourself be in situation of having a single external copy of your precious data.

Hard drive comparison: LaCie Porsche Design P'9230 vs P'9233

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