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Q: Desktop ICONs rearrange after reboot, 1st on Snow Leopard and continues on Mavericks updated to on 3/29/2014 why?

My desktop ICONs are rearranged after a reboot.  This started with Snow Leopard (about 7 months ago) and continued when I upgraded to Mavericks.  I updated to Mavericks on 3/29/2014.  The only connection to the problem seems to be that it started immediately after a power failure.  My MacBook Pro was also rebooted after the power failure (which was also running Snow Leopard and upgraded to Mavericks on 3/29/2014) does not have the problem.  My IMAC passes all of the hardware tests, is not running hot, No static in the environment, have ran system from internal drive and external drive, have downloaded and am running MAC FAN CONTROL (downloaded after the problem occurred), did 3 vodoo dances (well maybe only 2!), any ideas?

IMAC and Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.2)

Posted on Mar 30, 2014 6:03 AM

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Q: Desktop ICONs rearrange after reboot, 1st on Snow Leopard and continues on Mavericks updated to on 3/29/2014 why?

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  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 30, 2014 9:11 AM in response to woodcutter
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    Mar 30, 2014 9:11 AM in response to woodcutter

    Are the icons rearranged randomly, or do they always revert to the same arrangement? If you change the view options for the Desktop, do the changes stick after a reboot?

  • by woodcutter,

    woodcutter woodcutter Mar 30, 2014 11:43 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Mar 30, 2014 11:43 AM in response to Linc Davis

    The ICONS are always randomly arranged and all are on the far right side of the screen.  It does not matter what setting I use, the result is the same.  I have resorted to using DIM 2.1.0.app to memorize the desktop and restore it as it was before the reboot.  What bothers me is that with the upgrade to Mavericks, I still have the problem on the IMAC and the MacBook pro works as it should.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 30, 2014 11:58 AM in response to woodcutter
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    Mar 30, 2014 11:58 AM in response to woodcutter

    Back up all data.

    This procedure will unlock all your user files (not system files) and reset their ownership and access-control lists to the default. If you've set special values for those attributes on any of your files, they will be reverted. In that case, either stop here, or be prepared to recreate the settings if necessary. Do so only after verifying that those settings didn't cause the problem. If none of this is meaningful to you, you don't need to worry about it.

    Step 1

    If you have more than one user, and the one in question is not an administrator, then go to Step 2.

    Triple-click anywhere in the following line on this page to select it:

    { sudo chflags -R nouchg,nouappnd ~ $TMPDIR..; sudo chown -R $UID:staff ~ $_; sudo chmod -R u+rwX ~ $_; chmod -R -N ~ $_; } 2>&-

     

    Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.

    Launch the built-in Terminal application in any of the following ways:

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

    ☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.

    Paste into the Terminal window (command-V). I've tested these instructions only with the Safari web browser. If you use another browser, you may have to press the return key after pasting.

    You'll be prompted for your login password. Nothing will be displayed when you type it. You may get a one-time warning to be careful. If you don’t have a login password, you’ll need to set one before you can run the command. If you see a message that your username "is not in the sudoers file," then you're not logged in as an administrator.

    The command may take a few minutes to run, or perhaps longer if you have literally millions of files in your home folder. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) to appear, then quit Terminal.

    Step 2 (optional)

    Take this step only if you have trouble with Step 1, if it frightens you, or if it doesn't solve the problem.

    Boot into Recovery. When the OS X Utilities screen appears, select

    Utilities Terminal

    from the menu bar. A Terminal window will open.

    In the Terminal window, type this:

    res

    Press the tab key. The partial command you typed will automatically be completed to this:

    resetpassword

    Press return. A Reset Password dialog will open. You’re not going to reset a password.

    In the dialog, select the startup volume ("Macintosh HD," unless you gave it a different name) if it's not already selected.

    Select your username from the menu labeled Select the user account if it's not already selected.

    Under Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs, click the Reset button.

    Select

    Restart

    from the menu bar.

  • by woodcutter,

    woodcutter woodcutter Mar 30, 2014 1:57 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Mar 30, 2014 1:57 PM in response to Linc Davis

    I have tried rebooting via "command  r" and never get to the OSX Utilities screen.  What comes up is my normal screen but with all icons on the far right each time.  In the DOC I see the terminal icon but when I follow the steps, using terminal, the first thing I get is command not found.  I am not (presently) that familiar with using terminal.  I will learn that in due course but have not had the time yet to do so. 

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 30, 2014 2:11 PM in response to woodcutter
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    Mar 30, 2014 2:11 PM in response to woodcutter

    The "resetpassword" command is only available in Recovery mode. If you can't get into Recovery mode, that may be because you don't have a Recovery partition, which is a separate issue. Did you try Step 1?

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 30, 2014 2:15 PM in response to woodcutter
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    Mar 30, 2014 2:15 PM in response to woodcutter

    Go to  Finder > View > Sort By and make sure that 'Snap To Grid' is not checked. I select 'none'.

     

    Pete

  • by woodcutter,

    woodcutter woodcutter Mar 30, 2014 6:05 PM in response to Linc Davis
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    Mar 30, 2014 6:05 PM in response to Linc Davis

    I installed Mavericks on an external clone of my internal drive.  Then when I was satisfied with Mavericks, cloned to my internal drive.  I did notice that the clone showed 2 drives (or Partitions) and one of them was "recovery".  When I cloned the external to the internal, I might have only gotten the main partition.  I will go back and see and if I am missing the recovery, I will clone that to my internal drive.  Then I will go back to your original message and start from scratch.

  • by woodcutter,

    woodcutter woodcutter Mar 30, 2014 6:07 PM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 30, 2014 6:07 PM in response to petermac87

    Before the power failure I was using "none".  After the power failure, running Snow Leopard, no setting would change what was happening.  The problem continued after the upgrade to Mavericks.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 30, 2014 6:21 PM in response to woodcutter
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    Mar 30, 2014 6:21 PM in response to woodcutter

    Have you trashed the Finder Preferences and rebooted?

     

    Pete

  • by woodcutter,

    woodcutter woodcutter Mar 31, 2014 6:45 AM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 31, 2014 6:45 AM in response to petermac87

    I know I am not as knowledgable with the MAC software as I will be in the future but I cannot find any reference to or location of the Finder Preferences.  I'm an old 60's to 90's programmer and know DOS backwards and forwards but have not had the time yet to acheive the same with the MAC's.  Can you help further?

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Mar 31, 2014 7:37 AM in response to woodcutter
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    Mar 31, 2014 7:37 AM in response to woodcutter

    To me this sounds like a problem with the .DS_Store file in the folder (in this case ~/Desktop).

     

    I would try deleting the .DS_Store file.

     

    Of course since .DS_Store is a hidden file, you will need to either use an Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal session

     

    rm -i ~/Desktop/.DS_Store

     

    Being very VERY CAREFUL with the 'rm' (remove) command, as you can easily shoot yourself in the foot with this command.

     

    Now use Apple menu icon -> Force Quit... -> Finder -> Relaunch

     

    This should cause Finder to create a new ~/Desktop/.DS_Store file.

  • by woodcutter,

    woodcutter woodcutter Mar 31, 2014 8:24 AM in response to BobHarris
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    Mar 31, 2014 8:24 AM in response to BobHarris

    Bob,

     

    Deleted the file ok, did the force quit and relaunch of finder.  ICONs still came up as before.  Someone else also suggested the .DS_Store file as the problem but it appears that it is not - at least at this point.

     

    When the power failure occurred, I researched this problem via Apple discussions and at that point, Apple indicated that they were not able to recreate the problem.  I have not seen any new information about it since it occurred.

     

    Still Hopeful....

  • by BobHarris,

    BobHarris BobHarris Mar 31, 2014 8:29 AM in response to woodcutter
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    Mar 31, 2014 8:29 AM in response to woodcutter

    After the Finder Relaunch, did you try moving things around and seeing if they stayed put?


    That is to say, after deleting the .DS_Store and allowing a new one to be created, everything would initially be the default Finder behavior.

     

    My theory is that after creating a new .DS_Store any changes you make to that folder, should stick going forward.

     

    Rather than a reboot, a Finder Relaunch would be a quicker way to see if your changes are sticking.

     

    The other possibility is that there is a permissions problem with changing the .DS_Store file.  I would find that strange that you could mess with the files in ~/Desktop, but not be allowed to modify the .DS_Store file.  Not impossible, just highly unlikely.

     

    Message was edited by: BobHarris

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Mar 31, 2014 9:29 AM in response to woodcutter
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    Mar 31, 2014 9:29 AM in response to woodcutter

    It's not clear whether you ever reset the permissions of your home folder, as I suggested earlier.

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