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mail invisible after mavericks update

I have upgraded my Mac Pro 2009 to Mavericks. Mail is now invisible. When I click on the icon in the dock, the application menu appears at the top of the page, but it is not possible to view anything, zoom to anything, or open any new windows, folders, mailboxes or mail. One time only, the icon in the dock showed the number of unread emails (which I read from a web email client on a different device. Since then, no mails are retrieved.


My only email account is an ISP account (not gmail etc)


Any thoughts? Thank-you, anyone, for your help.


Leon

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.2), GTX570 w/ dual 1920 x 1080 monitors

Posted on Apr 1, 2014 1:48 PM

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Apr 1, 2014 2:25 PM in response to LRivchun

When I go to Accounts and click on my account, I get a dialog saying:
"Password could not be sent to "pop-server.roadrunner.com" securely


Mail cannot send your password securely to the server. You can continue without a secured password, which could put your password at risk.


Do you want to continue without a secured password?"


After which, still nothing happens.

Thanks again for any thoughts.

Leon



Apr 1, 2014 4:14 PM in response to LRivchun

Quit Mail. Force quit if necessary.


Back up all data. That means you know you can restore the Mail database, no matter what happens.


Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it:

~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData


Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. In the Finder, select


Go Go to Folder


from the menu bar. Paste into the box that opens (command-V), then press return.


A folder window will open. Inside it there should be files with names as follows:


  • Envelope Index
  • ExternalUpdates.storedata


Move those files to the Desktop, leaving the window open. Other files in the folder may have longer names that begin as above. Move those files, if any, to the Trash.

Log out and log back in. Relaunch Mail. It should prompt you to re-import your messages. You may get a warning that the index is damaged and that Mail has to quit. Click OK. Typically, the process takes a few minutes, but it may take hours if you have gigantic mailboxes. In that case, you may be able to speed things up by temporarily adding your home folder to the Privacy list in the Spotlight preference pane. Remove it when Mail has finished importing.


Test. If Mail now works as expected, you can delete the files you moved to the Desktop. Otherwise, post your results.

Apr 1, 2014 6:12 PM in response to Linc Davis

Linc,


Thanks so much for your assistance.


Well, that was fun for a while... Go to folder window gave me "The folder can't be found."

I opened my Home folder and checked Show Library in View Options.

In the Library folder, I found Envelope Index, and 2 others starting with that plus a couple more letters, but no "ExternalUpdates".

Nevertheless, I moved the one to the desktop and deleted the other 2, then logged out and back in.

I was immediately prompted by mail to rebuild, which brought me back to where I was before: Mail menu bar visible, but no menu options available to open message, folder, window etc.


Several observations:
Although I have entered my name as the user, the home folder is still called "macintoshcustomer".

Suddenly on log-in I am being prompted for a password, which I never was before. (Password is still blank).

Attempting to return to Mail from Finder or another program, by clicking in the Dock, does nothing - Mail menu does not appear.

Selecting Show All Windows by long-clicking on the icon hides all other windows, but nothing else.

The only way to get even the menu bar for Mail back again is to select "Open on Desktop", and then click ont he icon in the finder window that opens. After all that, it goes back to menu bar only again.


I am looking forward to any other suggestions you might have.

Thanks again.

Leon

Apr 1, 2014 7:18 PM in response to LRivchun

Although I have entered my name as the user, the home folder is still called "macintoshcustomer".


If you mean that's the name of your home folder in the Finder, and it's different from your login name, then it sounds like someone else installed the system and botched the job very badly. It's the sort of thing that the "Geek Squad" at a Best Buy would do. Is that what happened?

Apr 1, 2014 9:36 PM in response to Linc Davis

Linc - my Home folder has always been called "macintoshcustomer", even though my name appears at the Login screen.

I bought the computer used a year or so ago. It came with a clean install of 10.8, and treated me as its new, first user. I did have difficulty migrating my mailboxes at that time, but everything worked great for a year after that, until just now updating to Mavericks.


Ernie - no luck with the SSL checkbox. It was checked in the new icloud acct I set-up while trying anything, but it was not in the original ISP account.

Apr 1, 2014 9:42 PM in response to LRivchun

Problems such as yours are sometimes caused by files that should belong to you but are locked or have wrong permissions. This procedure will check for such files. It makes no changes and therefore is not, in itself, a solution.

First, empty the Trash, if possible.

Triple-click anywhere in the line below on this page to select it, then copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C:

find ~ $TMPDIR.. \( -flags +sappnd,schg,uappnd,uchg -o ! -user $UID -o ! -perm -600 \) 2>&- | wc -l | pbcopy

Launch the built-in Terminal application in any of the following ways:

☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.

Paste into the Terminal window (command-V). The command may take a noticeable amount of time to run. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) to appear.

The output of the command will be a number. It's automatically copied to the Clipboard. Please paste it into a reply.

The Terminal window doesn't show the output. Please don't copy anything from there.

Apr 2, 2014 2:02 PM in response to LRivchun

Some of your user files (not system files) have incorrect permissions or are locked. This procedure will unlock all your user files, reset their ownership, and remove their access-control lists. If you've set special values for those attributes, they will be reverted. In that case, either stop here, or be prepared to recreate the settings if necessary. Do so only after verifying that those settings didn't cause the problem. If none of this is meaningful to you, you don't need to worry about it.

Back up all data.

Step 1

If you have more than one user, and the one in question is not an administrator, then go to Step 2.

Enter the following command in the Terminal window in the same way as before (triple-click, copy, and paste):

{ sudo chflags -R nouchg,nouappnd ~ $TMPDIR..; sudo chown -R $UID:staff ~ $_; sudo chmod -R u+rwX ~ $_; chmod -R -N ~ $_; } 2>&-

This time you'll be prompted for your login password, which won't be displayed when you type it. You may get a one-time warning to be careful. If you don’t have a login password, you’ll need to set one before you can run the command. If you see a message that your username "is not in the sudoers file," then you're not logged in as an administrator.

The command may take several minutes to run, depending on how many files you have. Wait for a new line ending in a dollar sign ($) to appear, then quit Terminal.

Step 2 (optional)

Take this step only if you have trouble with Step 1, if you prefer not to take it, or if it doesn't solve the problem.

Boot into Recovery. When the OS X Utilities screen appears, select

Utilities Terminal

from the menu bar. A Terminal window will open. In that window, type this:

res


Press the tab key. The partial command you typed will automatically be completed to this:

resetpassword

Press return. A Reset Password window will open. You’re not going to reset a password.

Select your startup volume ("Macintosh HD," unless you gave it a different name) if not already selected.

Select your username from the menu labeled Select the user account if not already selected.

Under Reset Home Directory Permissions and ACLs, click the Reset button.

Select

Restart

from the menu bar.

Apr 2, 2014 2:30 PM in response to Linc Davis

Linc, you are a very patient person. Thank-you for that.


Step 1 returned "Bad substitute."

Step 2 returned "Command not found" (had to type it out in full.


I did get a text-type screen during Restart, while holding the Cmd & R keys, and an Apple Dialog asking to send a report to Apple, but no other obvious evidence of being in recovery mode. Should there have been?


Thanks.

Apr 2, 2014 3:04 PM in response to LRivchun

This thread got off into more than what you initially observed (at least as reported.) When I migrated all my Mail files to also be on my new Mac Pro, I found that opening Mail would not show anything, and a few other odd things when I could get anything at all to show up. This despite being able to see that all files had in fact been migrated, and could be seen on the new computer.


I researched and found an amazlingly simple solution.

Deleting ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Container.plist was the simple trick.


Once upon a time, a classic remedy for many Mail ills was to purge the com.apple.mail.plist file, but in the newer framework of Mail in 10.8, and later, files in the Containers folder may now be the path?


Now I know you issue occurred when updating to Mavericks on the same computer, and not a migration, but you intially reported systems were exactly like what I experienced.


Ernie

Apr 2, 2014 3:23 PM in response to Linc Davis

I realized my PC keyboard could be a problem (I use it for Boot Camp applications), so I got out my apple wireless, and managed to get into Recovery Mode. But. My Logitech mouse will not click on anything in the menu bar... I'm limited to the choices within the Disk Utility / Time Machine Restore / Re-Install OSX Window. Hopefully, I still have a wired apple mouse, if you think that will help.

mail invisible after mavericks update

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